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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar 2009, 19:20    Post subject:  

@Whodo - are you keeping track of the DEV packages as well or should we start a separate thread to compile all the DEV packages for the new programs and new versions of old programs??? It would be nice to have a devx_420.sfs...
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SouthPaws

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar 2009, 19:42    Post subject: DistroWatch
Subject description: Announcements of releases
 

Hey, WhoDo there's a flurry of NON-STABLE release announcements on distrowatch...
Will there be one of 4.2RC4 (to possibly draw in more testers) before the awesome final?

http://distrowatch.com/
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar 2009, 20:38    Post subject: Cannot mount CIFS share  

RC4 (and I believe RC3,2,1 down to puppy 4.1.2) cannot mount CIFS share (aka "Windows share" or 'Windows Network Drive"). While we're talking about Windows here, unfortunately most of personal NAS storage also use the same protocol (e.g. my WD MyBook World Edition).

1. mount -t cifs doesn't work due to lack of helper mount.cifs program
2. mount -t smbfs doesn't work because of missing symlink from /opt/samba/bin/smbmount to /sbin/mount.smbfs
3. Even if pt 2 above is fixed, I found that smbmount doesn't do it's job properly --- I can mount, but doing directory listing doesn't work.

This wasn't a problem in 2.15CE because at least smbmount works fine there.

The fix?

Download and install mount.cifs to /sbin.

I have prepared a dotpet, and if you like you can get the source itself, from here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=288811#288811

I compiled that in Fatdog but I've already tested in RC4 and it works.
It's 7.9K compressed, 18K uncompressed, and in my opinion, is really necessary.

Then you can do things like:
Code:

mount -t cifs -o user=YourUserName,pass=YourPassword //IP_address_of_your_CIFS_server/Name_of_shared_folder /mnt/data

Once done you can unmount as usual
Code:
umount /mnt/data


Those who like GUI, should get PNetHood updated to use this instead of smbmount. Anyway for me PNethood doesn't work because nbtscan (the command used to look for servers) crash my WD MyBook and I don't have a solution for it yet ...

EDIT: pnethood already know how to use cifs ... so that's good. I can use pnethood to mount a known server, but the nbtscan problem still exist and I still don't have a solution.

cheers!

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 01:56    Post subject:  

This is just an observation concerning hidden errors and a place to check for them.
Fire up Puppy RC4 with pfix=ram
Go to /temp with ROX.
Open the xerrs.log file.
It shows a number of things.
One was not being able to load tray icon nothing.png
There are others that are interesting as placement parameters being wrong for the screen size.
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capoverde


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 03:35    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
capoverde wrote:
Also, with XOrg the keyboard shorcut to open a terminal inside a directory (<'>) doesn't work -- not that it matters much, but this is an old unsolved issue, most probably a tricky one since all other shortcuts seem to work.

Actually, it does work. But it uses the backquote, not the normal quote ( ` vs ' ). On a US keyboard it's the same key as the tilde, left of the 1 and below the Esc.

So that's it! Thanks to you PG and some googling, I've learned about the "backquote" character... and that it does exist in one version of the Italian kbd layout (<alt>+<ù>), which is implemented in Puppy, although no keyboard I've ever seen around here shows it (!!) .

I'd never find out by myself -- particularly since with XVesa the normal apostrophe does call the terminal... which makes up for another oddity. Shocked

*Edit: upon testing this, it turned out that the "backquote" character can also be obtained with <alt>+<apostrophe> (as in the Italian kbd layout for Switzerland) and only this combination calls the terminal while <alt>+<ù> doesn't, even if it types the "`" correctly.

As for what I reported previously about the top tray, it does hide away if Ptray is closed without hitting the "Apply" tab; else it remains active. And then, often after that (but not always... will test), an ultra-tiny window for Blinky appears at the top left of the screen (sorry if this has been reported already, but 29 pages take too long to read...).

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 06:18    Post subject:  

if you use chinese or japanese etc. you will view Garbled character in /mnt /home at ntfs or fat drive:

please test this way followed:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40448
or
http://puppy.cnbits.com/software/initrd%E8%A1%A5%E4%B8%81
ruanma.jpg
 Description   Chinese filename is Garbled character
 Filesize   53.53 KB
 Viewed   1714 Time(s)

ruanma.jpg

luanma.jpg
 Description   Chinese Garbled character in fat drive
 Filesize   14.56 KB
 Viewed   1721 Time(s)

luanma.jpg


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pa_mcclamrock


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 07:07    Post subject:  

Further update on Remaster Express (EDITED): Technosaurus suggested I should set the write queue for mksquashfs (by default, a whopping 512 MB) at only slightly more than the estimated size of the squashfile. If it worked, it would mean Remaster Express would eat up, e.g., maybe only 110 MB of free memory for an estimated 100 MB squashfile. Unfortunately, I tried it and it didn't work; mksquashfs ate up the same huge amount of memory as before (but thanks for the suggestion, technosaurus!).

Would somebody please direct me to the source code and/or the compression/decompression algorithms for mksquashfs, so I can see if it's possible to fix this problem for a future version of Puppy?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 08:44    Post subject: Puppy Package Manager.  

I worked a bit with upup-015 and specially the package manager.

In one word: fantastic.
It detects the dependencies, calculate the space needed for every thing, verifies if enough space is available and then only proposes to proceed with the install the whole thing, dependencies and package in one go.

Any chance to see this beauty in 4.2X?

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 09:21    Post subject:  

can I try it as a live CD first ?
I work with puppy 412 live CD and I saved a multisection with it in my hard drive...
I just wish to "taste" puppy 42 before , so I fear it could recognize my stored FS files and mess it all...
I think that it's the kernel version that count and I saw that in puppy 42 it's exactly the same that in my puppy 412 but I am not sure....
please help
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 09:42    Post subject: Re: Puppy Package Manager.  

Béèm wrote:
I worked a bit with upup-015 and specially the package manager.

In one word: fantastic.
It detects the dependencies, calculate the space needed for every thing, verifies if enough space is available and then only proposes to proceed with the install the whole thing, dependencies and package in one go.

Any chance to see this beauty in 4.2X?


I have a feeling that 4.2 won't be going to upup, thats whole different base and wouldn't work with the numbering system.
Upup, Dpup, Spup, Apup I think we will have a split in puppys future, Barry has created a monster, that we will all love to enjoy Smile
Right now I'm personally stuck on Dpup,I'm not for the package manager because its crashed on me a few times with Dpup, Plus they will use a lot of extra dependencies and blow up the size of our little distro, Basically the best way to do it is, build a barebones version and then compile the packages we need, like Dpup has Gnomelibs and Dbus included, we never needed these libs before and the more libs we have the less programs we have fun with.
Anyways Probably each version will get a number, like puppy 5,6,7,8 and who ever wants to join that team will go to it I guess. Then we would need a repo like ibiblio etc to host the repos for them, then just compile,compile,compile upload, upload, upload etc.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 09:48    Post subject:  

rheya wrote:
can I try it as a live CD first ?
I work with puppy 412 live CD and I saved a multisection with it in my hard drive...
I just wish to "taste" puppy 42 before , so I fear it could recognize my stored FS files and mess it all...
I think that it's the kernel version that count and I saw that in puppy 42 it's exactly the same that in my puppy 412 but I am not sure....
please help


Just rename you pup_save.sfs to pup_save.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
then when your done messing around with 4.2, rename your sfs back.
simple and works great Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 10:13    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Just rename you pup_save.sfs to pup_save.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
then when your done messing around with 4.2, rename your sfs back.
simple and works great Smile

Actually, ttuuxxx, that's not necessary any more. Puppy 4.2 includes Pizzasgood's patch that forces a user response before upgrading the pup_save.2fs file, so there should be no nasty surprises no matter what. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 12:42    Post subject: Re: Puppy Package Manager.  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Béèm wrote:
I worked a bit with upup-015 and specially the package manager.

In one word: fantastic.
It detects the dependencies, calculate the space needed for every thing, verifies if enough space is available and then only proposes to proceed with the install the whole thing, dependencies and package in one go.

Any chance to see this beauty in 4.2X?


I have a feeling that 4.2 won't be going to upup, thats whole different base and wouldn't work with the numbering system.
Upup, Dpup, Spup, Apup I think we will have a split in puppys future, Barry has created a monster, that we will all love to enjoy Smile
Right now I'm personally stuck on Dpup,I'm not for the package manager because its crashed on me a few times with Dpup, Plus they will use a lot of extra dependencies and blow up the size of our little distro, Basically the best way to do it is, build a barebones version and then compile the packages we need, like Dpup has Gnomelibs and Dbus included, we never needed these libs before and the more libs we have the less programs we have fun with.
Anyways Probably each version will get a number, like puppy 5,6,7,8 and who ever wants to join that team will go to it I guess. Then we would need a repo like ibiblio etc to host the repos for them, then just compile,compile,compile upload, upload, upload etc.
ttuuxxx
In this dpup package manger (it didn't crash on me yet) is a button trim the fat. I don't know how well and effective it is.

But mainly the message is that a similar package manager is needed in puppy.
There was one which was good. MU's Puppy Software Installer (Puppy 3.xx), but disappeared from the arena.
Petch did die as well.

On the repo side, asia and ca are not always in sync and don't contain every thing.

So it's a constant chase and search in the forum to find a package you once heard about.

Look forward to Whodo's comment.

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 18:33    Post subject: Re: Cannot mount CIFS share  

jamesbond wrote:
RC4 (and I believe RC3,2,1 down to puppy 4.1.2) cannot mount CIFS share (aka "Windows share" or 'Windows Network Drive"). ...[snip]...
The fix?

Download and install mount.cifs to /sbin.

I have prepared a dotpet, and if you like you can get the source itself, from here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=288811#288811

If this is still a problem in Puppy 4.2 Final, Jamesbond, please post this to the Puppy 4.2 Patches & Updates thread in the Bugs forum so it doesn't get overlooked. Cool

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 18:48    Post subject: Re: Puppy Package Manager.  

Béèm wrote:
In this dpup package manger (it didn't crash on me yet) is a button trim the fat. I don't know how well and effective it is.

But mainly the message is that a similar package manager is needed in puppy....[snip]...
Look forward to Whodo's comment.

It is my understanding that future versions of Puppy - i.e. from 4.3 onward - will be built from our Git repository, based on 4.2 and using the Woof build system and its components (instead of Unleashed), including the Woof package manager.

I say "it is my understanding" because I haven't yet had the opportunity to delve into Woof or Git, but that is certainly on my agenda. One of the great benefits for me, and I hope the Puppy community in general, in my taking control for the 4.2 official release project has been that Barry has been freed to devote much more time to Woof and to the new package manager among many other things.

It is by no means certain that I will continue to lead the standard Puppy build projects going forward to 4.3 and beyond. Barry may have other plans entirely; who knows. Whoever is in command for the next official release, the Git repository and Woof build system are certain to make the task a whole lot simpler and easier than it is right now!

I hope that answers your questions Béèm.

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