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#16 Post by jamesbond »

synth wrote:Here's an updated screenshot:

After doing some updates ,optimizations and tweaks to Puppy Studio Pre-Alpha,here's the result:

JACK is now running stable without Xruns at 0.4 ms (20 frames x2 buffers @ 32bit/96kHz ,realtime) - without an RT kernel :)
Sounds very promising :) Cant wait to preview it ! :)
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#17 Post by 01micko »

Synth

As a guitarist with some usb recording gear I have a bazillion questions, I am by no means an expert in guitar or recording!

LINUX
  • As I understand you intend to use RT kernel... yeah?
    Are the results in your screenies on a stock 412 with stock kernel?
    I assume wine is necessary for ASIO driver... yeah?
    What distro will you base your woof Studio Puppy on? (a, d, s, u)
    When can you upload something for testing?
    What wine version?
    Doesn't Linux have an alternative to ASIO? (If not it should!)

RECORDING
  • Will latency improve much with RT kernel? (assuming you are using stock now, and 2ms is negligble anyway.)
    I have a Zoom effects device (works fine in doze) for my guitar, do reckon it will be supported?
    I have a Behringer usb sound device which I hook my mixer up to, same?
    Midi? (not that I use it much, drum samples maybe)
    Drum machine app?
    I have not used JACK, does it support playthru recording, like Audacity?
    Audacity is handy for quick edits, is it part of the package?
That will do for now.

Very keen! :mrgreen:

Cheers.... Mick
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#18 Post by meridian_blue »

@synth... Is a Linux Multi Media Studio (LMMS) version of Puppy Studio feaseable?
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#19 Post by JazzyPuppy »

Hello there!

I am new here and I as MIDI based musician am very interested in the "Puppy Studio" but I am a bit confused by what you wrote synth and have a couple of questions:
synth wrote: RT mode in JACK is useless without a Realtime kernel. It's extremely unstable. You're forced to use the non-RT mode which can give you 4~5ms latency in the best case with a monster PC :(

Windows XP performs much better than Puppy with a standard kernel. You can get latencies down to 1~2ms with ASIO output and an optimized XP.

With a RT kernel,you can finally use the RT mode without fear that your app will disconnect or crash.The results are amazing:
Much better than XP :)
Is now XP performing better than the turbopup with standard kernel?
Is RT mode in JACK really useless without RT-Kernel? A few posts later I understand:
synth wrote: But I found a nice workaround - setting the timeout in JACK from 500ms to 8000ms solves the problem :)
Now you can use the RT mode but you'll get Xruns from time to time because of the lousy 2D performance of WINE.
synth wrote:JACK is now running stable without Xruns at 0.4 ms (20 frames x2 buffers @ 32bit/96kHz ,realtime) - without an RT kernel
That sounds good to me :-)

Will the turbopup stuff be included in Puppy Audio?

Since I am a beginner with Puppy, I would like to know how difficult it would be to make a RT-Kernel based version of Puppy Audio or turbopup and if a RT-Kernel is really needed for getting say 5ms latency for JACK with MIDI triggering a VSTi through wine-asio.

As a start in "Puppy-doing" I plan on doing a Puplet which is turbopup based with:
-latest Firewire : FFADO and FreeBob (latest from svn)
-WINE-ASIO
-FST (latest from git)
-jackdmp (latest from svn)
-VSTi-Plugins (like Pianoteq piano)

Thank you synth for the great things you do for audio on Linux!

Regards,

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#20 Post by synth »

Puppy Studio is not a puplet based on Puppy 4.2

It's a next generation (woof-based) Puppy with the latest kernel and the optimizations of Turbopup.

It will include the latest (stable) versions of everything needed for pro audio work :)
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#21 Post by JazzyPuppy »

Hello synth!

Thanks for explaining me this stuff!

I'd be more than willing to be an alpha tester for Puppy Studio.

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#22 Post by 01micko »

JazzyPuppy wrote:Hello synth!

Thanks for explaining me this stuff!

I'd be more than willing to be an alpha tester for Puppy Studio.

Regards,

JazzyPuppy
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Testing? When might an Alpha release be available?

#23 Post by harryhaaren »

Hey Synth,

Its long been a dream of mine to get a RAM studio!
At the moment i have tried to do this with Slax, and LiveScripts,
both cool "functions"of linux, but Im not technical enough yet to go insert my
owen real time live kernels..

So i've googled the earth over many times, and this seems to be the
only RAM studio solution!!! :D

So Im available quite a bit to do alpha testing, bug reports, I have a
desktop and a Laptop (single and dual core) can do some comparitive tests for you?

Only if your intrested in help at this time of course!
Cheers, and if there's anything you can think of that
could do with some upgrading (artwork, log in sounds, etc)
i offer my help.
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#24 Post by jamesbond »

synth, in your quest for turbopup, I hope you don't forget about this puplet :) many hopefuls are waiting :)
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#25 Post by meridian_blue »

@synth... What would be required to run Linux Multimedia Studio in this distro?
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#26 Post by synth »

Here's a WIP screenshot ;)

and more news:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=18722
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#27 Post by jamesbond »

yay, progress !!
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#28 Post by synth »

More news:

JACK2 1.9.2 + Wine 1.1.20 + WineASIO 0.3.4 :

The WIP build of Puppy Studio (based on Turbopup Xtreme with JACK2) plays the Reaper 'Brad Sucks' demo @ 2ms without Xruns on a single core box :)


Name changed to 'Puppy Portable Studio' :D
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Progress!

#29 Post by harryhaaren »

Hey Synth,

Glad there´s progress again... i have to admit I check this page whenever something goes wrong with my StudioOs.

(Im)Paitently Waitin to test PortaStudio! -Harry
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#30 Post by jamesbond »

yesssss ! :D
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#31 Post by synth »

Turbopup Xtreme (WIP) : optimized to the max
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With the latest tweaks, the Brad Sucks project is playing @ 1 ms (22 samples @ 44.1kHz / 32bit) without Xruns on the same old clunker :)
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#32 Post by jamesbond »

Still patiently waiting :D
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Downloadable alpha???

#33 Post by JonathanBrickman0000 »

I need a good string-section sound for some stage work; I have an old 3 GHz single-core Dell server as platform, and PPS is the best hope I have :-) Is there a downloadable of PPS yet???

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#34 Post by maggotspawn »

Hey synth, may I ask which version of Qjackctl are you using and how did you compile it? I'm having trouble with it wanting Alsa headers when I ./configure.
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#35 Post by pixelblip »

Hi Synth
Wow sounds so exciting...........can't wait to try it out.........how far might you have to go until it's ready for release?
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