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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 28 May 2009, 03:04    Post subject:  

Ah yes was going to ask about right button usage.
Maybe someone will work out a way of doing that?
(Could barely understand the explanation - needs
to be a Puppy with a full set of vitamin injections)

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I might add a button, to download/view the source of a page


Yes I use that on occasion
With all the problems with browsers (I know you have had them) - it would seem this plus the gecko engine would be rather good . . .

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One other nice feature might be a "PuppysBrowser Presentation Language".
If a file with the suffix *.pbpl is loaded, the browser would run commands in it.


That makes sense.
I have already done a Presentation in FullerScreen for Puppy 5 which comes with Woof (sorry can not find the link for that example)

So a browser and presentation package + removal of bloat
Sounds like the 'tiny html viewer'/Puppy browser is Puppydacious . . .
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PostPosted: Thu 28 May 2009, 04:17    Post subject:  

Dear Mark,

The presentation language idea is brilliant - a poor man's powerpoint that would take absolutely no extra room on the disk. I checked to see whether there wasn't a Firefox extension that did something like this and did not find one, so you seem to be the first person to think of using a browser for this task. Great.

We are all waiting...and wish you success.

With kind regards,
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PostPosted: Thu 28 May 2009, 05:32    Post subject:  

guys,

Question: If using "Webkit" as alternative to Gecko would that enable any potential speedup that Google was able to introduce?.

Here is the 5.x prototype presentation I mentioned with FullerScreen in Woof (Puppy 5)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=303262#303262

As far as I am aware Fullerscreen is also available for Firefox

However I feel Marks presentation language sounds much simpler
and being designed for Puppy . . . well . . . hope Barry adopts it Smile

I believe we are now largely independent of Seamonkey
apart from having Composer - m m m . . .

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PostPosted: Thu 28 May 2009, 07:19    Post subject:  

Lobster Said
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I believe we are now largely independent of Seamonkey
apart from having Composer - m m m . . .


Maybe it's time to do a bit of work on Kompozer..it is getting close to being a very credible competitor in the WYSIWYG html editor stakes...

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PostPosted: Thu 28 May 2009, 09:57    Post subject:  

vovchik wrote:
The presentation language idea is brilliant - a poor man's powerpoint that would take absolutely no extra room on the disk. I checked to see whether there wasn't a Firefox extension that did something like this and did not find one, so you seem to be the first person to think of using a browser for this task. Great.


This is a great idea, but I believe it has already been done, using Javascript. S5 offers a simple way to produce slideshows using just an html file and some simple coding. Here is the link:

http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/

This would be a great thing to include in Puppy for Slideshows, perhaps some CSS guys could produce more templates too.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 May 2009, 01:23    Post subject:  

Out of curiosity I wanted to try this on 3.01 but I am guessing that it won't run on this version of gtk. The command #puppy-browser opens the default browser, in my case Firefox.
Code:

# puppy-browser
/usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser


The command to the target gives the following response.

Code:
# /usr/local/PuppyBrowser/puppy-browser
# ./PuppyBrowser: symbol lookup error: ./PuppyBrowser: undefined symbol: gtk_tool_item_set_tooltip_text


I also tried this.
Code:

# /usr/local/PuppyBrowser/PuppyBrowser
/usr/local/PuppyBrowser/PuppyBrowser: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/PuppyBrowser/PuppyBrowser: undefined symbol: gtk_tool_item_set_tooltip_text


This machine does not reboot without major surgery each time so I am usually up for a couple months at a time. I will try again after my next reboot, probably sometime next month in case it is the libgee libs that are not registered yet.

That being said, I am pleased to see that it is working for the new versions. I have been unable to boot the 4 series on my older Thinkpads so I will wait and test woof in a while. I have however had wonderful results on desktops.

Great stuff all.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jun 2009, 16:29    Post subject:  

peppyy,
your Gtk is too old.
I had to compile a special version without tooltip support. I can have a look in the next days.

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I uploaded PuppyBrowser 0.5, see changelog:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=303882#303882

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I also uploaded "Embedded Bookmarks 0.1".

This is a special program.
It opens a "tree", where you can open "bookmarks" sorted by categories.
Bookmarks are added by editing a configfile.

A bookmark can be a link, for example a link to a Flash SWF video.
Or it can be a "embedded code".
This code MUST be not more than one line.
For example here:
http://www.youtube.com/deutschewelleenglish
you can find such "embedded code", so it allows you to see a video, without opening a "full" page in a webbrowser.

You also can add PuppyBrowser options, like width or height of the browser.
The opened Browserwindow has no navigation toolbars, as it is intended as "multimedia viewer", not as webbrowser in this case.

Mark

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jun 2009, 16:52    Post subject:  

I uploaded "Embedded Bookmarks 0.2".

You now have two more options for each bookmark.

-run=

This launches an external viewer, not Puppybrowser.
I added an example, that show Deluxe Music as Videostream in mplayer (mms://).

-converter=

This converts the link of the bookmark.
You can place own converterscripts in /usr/local/EmbeddedBookmarks/.
Included is an example:

-converter=youtube2swf
Here the link of the bookmark can be a youtube site, like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faYW0CIpJsM&feature=popular

The converscript will download that site, and analyze the code in it.
It "grabs" the flashvideo, and turns it into a normal link, that then is opened directly with Puppybrowser.
This might not always work, I must enhance the converter for the next release.

Advantage:
you can scale the video by resizing Puppybrowser, and see no adverts Smile

Like this you now can use EmbedddBookmarks to store *any* file or weblocation, to open it with your favourite program.
Mark

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun 2009, 01:58    Post subject:  

I updated EmbeddedBookmarks to version 0.3.

- fixed a bug when you clicked on a bookmark again, it sometimes opened wrong.

- added two commadlineoptions.

The first is the name of the bookmarksfile to use, the second will set another word for "category" in the tree.

I'll explain in detail in this thread, how you can convert complete folders like MP3 collections to a configfile:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=43087
An example "audiobooks" is included in the menu.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun 2009, 21:26    Post subject:  

I can try to extend the EmbeddedBookmarks to get the same "easy usage" (add a website with a buttonclick, add an optional desktopicon) as Prism this or next week:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42294

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jun 2009, 01:42    Post subject: presentation language  

If you don't like s5, try slidy.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jun 2009, 21:54    Post subject:  

Testing Puppybrowser 0.5 on Puppy 4.76 with absolute satisfaction -- and awe! Another big hit for Puppy, sincere compliments Mark. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Will test it on old boxes, should be tops.
Also tried to locate Barry's "massaged" version (0.5.1) but didn't find it on ibiblio or elsewhere -- can anyone help?
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2009, 05:40    Post subject:  

Hi Mark, great job on the Puppy Browser 0.5. It;s simple and quick. Is it possible to add additional bookmarks. the dropdown menu will fill up quickly. It would be good if they could be nested like the embedded bookmarks tree.

I also like embeddedbookmarks which unfortunately has stopped working. I tried to paste an embedded link into the config file and it hasn't worked since. I have uninstalled and installed it at least three times but it still won't work. I think if I could locate the config file I could probably remove the embedded link and it would work again.

What is the name of the config file and where is it located?

I was trying to get it to work with just the video and not the rest of the browser page. From what I read in your post it is possible.

A little help file would be useful for first time users too.

I haven't quite got the hang of picture viewer yet. It works fine if you drop a JPG or PDF file onto it from ROX but not so reliable if you drag a graphic from a web page on to it. Some load most don't.

I'm currently using Puppy 4.2 Retro Full install.

Regards

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2009, 06:34    Post subject:  

Hi mark just tried it with the 2.14.1X I've been working it, It worked great with seamonkey installed, 2.14.1X has FF3.5 as default browser, seamonkey is a addon, So when I deleted Seamonkey as you do, Wink it wouldn't work, well of course not because it was missing libxpcom_core.so, and libgtkembedmoz.so
so I then copied them over from seamonkey to the firefox browser folder and made the system links and now it It said that I wasn't missing anything, when I did the ldd on the bin, and 2 lib files. but when I tried it, it just seg faulted, Anyway of having this lite browser work on firefox only system without dragging in half of seamonkey, ??
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jun 2009, 17:04    Post subject:  

capoverde,
thanks for your feedback Smile
Barry usually uploads files here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-woof/

But the 0.5.1 seems to be not uploaded yet, the one mentioned here:
http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00808


Smokey,

the configfile for the embedded bookmarks is:
/root/.EmbeddedBookmarks/channels2.txt

The bookmarks of Puppybrowser itself are:
/root/.PuppyBrowser/bookmarks.rc

I can't promise, when I find time to enhance the normal bookmarks to support categories, too.

Just came home from the short holiday, and tomorrow I'm away again.

ttuuxx,

Firefox 3 no longer supports the gtkmozembed API (Application Programming Interface), neither does Seamonkey 2.x.
So Puppybrowser depends on Seamokey 1.x or the xulrunner mentioned in the message, where you can download it.

I don't know yet, what new API is available for the newer browsers.
Mark

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