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Puppy 4.2 RC2 Deep Thought - Bugs & Fixes
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MinHundHettePerro
 Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 855 Location: SE |
. _________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13 Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285 Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx Nämen, vaf.... ln -s /dev/null MHHP Last edited by MinHundHettePerro on Sat 16 May 2009, 07:44; edited 1 time in total |
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WhoDo
 Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
When you first run ROX is called from the pup_420.sfs file into RAM. If it crashes there, or corrupts, or whatever, it is possible that the system will think you deleted it and cover the original with a .wh file at the higher level. You won't see ROX (not even the original) and the system will believe it doesn't exist. Those are the joys of a layered file system. The good news is that the original, uncorrupted ROX binary is still there and appears again when you delete the pup_save file along with the .wh mask file that prevents it from being seen. You could even copy the original back from /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/local/bin but only IF you have another working file manager that will let you do that.
Could be flakey RAM, power transients, etc. It doesn't take much to cause a problem for a mounted squash file system (pup_save IOW) to have a bit or two throw things out. That's why you should always make a clean copy of your working pup_save before doing anything critical. Hope that helps. _________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
There is evidently a misbehaving cups daemon at work here. I noticed a problem with earlier CUPS installations but haven't had a repeat since. The daemon simply refuses to throttle back after completing some operation or other. Next time instead of killing the process, try manually stopping CUPS and then restarting it again from the CLI. Hope that helps. _________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
>15 years with the same backdrop!?!?  That's gotta be some sort of record, MHHP!  
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NathanO
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 214 Location: San Antonio, TX |
On Tower got CUPS to find HP1220C on LPT1 which it did not work on RC1. Still works okay with USB on both machines. On HP Pavilion zv6100 Laptop could not get to the internet at all on eth0, no problem with 3.x and 4.1.x. On RC1 it took several reboots. Driver is same 8139too. Does not see wirless B43 at all on Laptop. 3.x and 4.1.x do and work most of the time. |
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MinHundHettePerro
Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 855 Location: SE |
. Last edited by MinHundHettePerro on Sat 16 May 2009, 07:44; edited 1 time in total |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
Can't say what the problem might be with the 8139too driver for normal ethernet. As for wireless, try renaming /lib/modules/2.6.25.16/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/r8180 folder to !!!r8180, save and reboot. Both brymway and 01micko have reported success with similar workarounds. Hope that helps _________________ Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't! SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com |
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jabu2
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 46 Location: Australia |
posted at end of rc1 thread - it seems this is not yet completely fixed in rc2, so posted again here. wireless ipw 2200 recognition problem reported by several (minnesota, brymway etc): o1mick has now given a solution I went into /lib/modules/2.6.25.16/kernel/drivers/net/wireless and renamed the r8180 folder--!!!r8180, saved and rebooted and my wireless now works. Apparently this works - being confirmed by one other so far But for new or old users it is not a full fix yet. can we please fix it for rc3 so that no file hacking is required? Many thanks in anticipation of wirelessly testing rc3 PS Nice to hear all the young 'uns life stories - haven't needed the TV all week. |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
The fix was only evident AFTER the RC2 release was uploaded or it would have been patched before I uploaded it. ITM I have asked tempestuous to look at the wireless problems for a more permanent solution, if he has the time and the inclination. After all we are all VOLUNTEERS! It would be nice if we had Warren Woodford's resources (Ubuntu founder) to throw at these issues, but I believe we still manage to produce a better, faster, more efficient OS with just a little personal commitment and patience. 
Cheers, from one of "the young 'uns".
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dogone
 Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 202 Location: Arizona, USA |
SIGKILL (via Htop or kill -9) appears required to squash cupsd post runaway. SIGTERM doesn't cut it. Does this tell us anything? |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
Well it doesn't tell ME anything, because I'm not that good , but I'm sure hoping it will speak volumes to Dougal, Patriot, ttuuxxx or one of the other devs quietly working away in the background! Thanks for trialling, dogone.
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jabu2
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 46 Location: Australia |
Thanks WhoDo - sorry my post crossed with uploading rc2 can I just mention again that this problem was not a problem with 4.1.2 (confirmed by others) That version recognised wireless interface and ipw220 drivers loaded every time - and works. so seems to me not likely to be a kernel or fundamental problem? - minnesota detected file differences in 4.2 rc1 from 4.1.2 and gave samples (back on p4 of rc1 thread) I am not knowledgeable enough to know if he/she was onto something, but if correct this seems like a short cut to a soution.....? trying to help. ATVB (all the very best) |
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WhoDo
Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 4440 Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia |
Agreed.  I think I remember patching the wireless drivers early in the Alpha cycle for 4.2, and I think it's that patch that is masking the earlier (working) driver set. That's why deleting that directory, or renaming it, works; it takes the driver set back to the inbuilt ones from the kernel.
Help is always welcome, jabu2. The file differences reported relate to the updated driver set vs the original set. It gave me the clue as to why the problem existed but not how to correct it without reverting to the earlier driver set. I'm hoping tempestuous will have a solution. If he doesn't then I'll simply roll back to the 4.12 driver set and leave it there. 
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ttuuxxx
 Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 11249 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia |
Ok I finally loaded up 4.2RC2 and well this is what I found - a whole row of icons was moved in icewm to where the pwidgets sits and then gets trashed by pwidgets, That never happened before? Why now? The xdg menu that I supplied with the last icewm package I provided wasn't used or was ignored, I had changed prog "Shutdown" shutdown24 /usr/bin/shutdown to prog "Shutdown" exit24.png /usr/bin/shutdown that is a way better look to the icons and matches the Refresh Menus icon perfectly. Also the new Seamonkey icon wasn't used, That took hours to improve and its actually3/4 smaller than the default icon. below is images of what I'm talking about. ttuuxxx
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ttuuxxx
Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 11249 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia |
also beside the time on the taskbar theres a extra "space" thats using the "space" from the clock, which I don't think I have a space icone being used before the numbers, and if you switch to the 'Citrus' theme you'll see a black box, any ideas? Oh is this one for my new list of things to do ? ttuuxxx
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Seems you may have managed to copy a corrupt version of ROX into your pup_save file somehow and it's sitting in a layer above the inbuilt original.
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