Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

ttuuxxx · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 00:08 Post subject:

Naaaaa I'm not starting anything, just that I've been reading Pwidgets reviews by users and talking to them in chat, and well I would say its a 50/50 for people who want it and people who don't, we are talking about system resources, space, slowing down of things, not everyone wants that for a little desktop bling. I can't see why we couldn't have a regular desktop with the option of installing all that other stuff, really all you would have to do is take a clean 4.12 and install all your apps and utitilies , make notes while doing it, make a pet, give WhoDo a icon and he can puppypin it, one click on the desktop starts the pet install, and 1 min later you have bling Smile

probably a good place for the pet would be just in root.
simple. What you guys have done is really nice, no doubt. but people running say a 233mmx probably would never want it. I have a fast PC with lots of extra resources and I find it slows down, compiling and basic moving of window around, I've noticed that 4.2 be not as agile as earlier 4 series. How about a poll Bling or no Bling poll?
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 00:55 Post subject:

The Bling or no Bling poll can be found at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39511
ttuuxxx

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8745 Location: qld

Not much point really, the poll.

WhoDo decided to include all the eycandy.

Cheers.

technosaurus · Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 4876 Location: Blue Springs, MO

Here are a few possible space savers

to remove - not really useful???
/usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.14/res/samples ... 347kb
/usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.14/res/throbber ... 23kb
/usr/man ... 16kb
/usr/local/man ... 6kb
/usr/lib/syslinux/syslinux.exe ... 24kb
/usr/lib/syslinux/syslinux.com ... 20kb
/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux-debug.bin ...13kb

these could go to devx_420.sfs ????
/usr/lib/*.a and *.la ...589kb
/usr/lib/alsa-lib/smixer/*.la ... 3kb
/usr/lib/apr-util-1/*.a and *.la ... 38kb
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines ... 3kb
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/gxineplugin.la ... 1kb
/usr/lib/pkgconfig ... 7kb
/usr/lib/xchat/plugins/perl.la ... 1kb
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/sample_drv.a ... 5kb
/usr/include ... 33kb

Also save 204kb with symlinks from icons in /usr/local/lib/X11/themes/DeepThought to /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps

there are a lot of duplicated icons all over the place - too many to list - no time to track them all down right now, but that should be around 1MB for ttuuxxx to play with anyways

ttuuxxx · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 01:36 Post subject:

yes but it doesn't hurt to know how the general populations feels, really a "Bling my Desktop" icon on the desktop would be really cool. For the people who want it. Its all about choices, but at the end of the day, your 100% WhoDo will have last call on it. Its never to late to change his mind.
Well maybe after the final is released, it would get great reviews with it, but the final history on the this release will be written by users and how they feel with it.
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 01:41 Post subject:

panzerpuppy · Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 632

@WhoDo: check out this thread and read my post there:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=282974#282974

WhoDo · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 06:23 Post subject:

Enough!

I'm really sick (I have a respiratory tract infection) and tired of it all (the infighting that is)!

As the Benevolent Dictator appointed by Barry to manage the 4.2 project, I have been more Benevolent than Dictator to this point. That changes now! Here are my decisions:

1. I have RC3 all but ready to release. Apart from one or two program updates and bug fixes, the only significant change will be the inclusion of pa_mcclamrock's Remaster Express (RemaX).

2. Pwidgets WILL be IN by default and ON by default. The only concession to those with slow machines will be advice in the opening info screen about how to disable them (remove the start_widgets file from /root/startup directory). That's so easy to do it's ridiculous!

3. There is really no point in having a poll about anything in a dictatorship! That's what we have here. That's what we've ALWAYS had with Puppy. I guess I'm partly responsible for the flack here as I've been way too benevolent in my approach.

4. I am tired of people ignoring forum etiquette in MY threads! If you doubt they are MY threads, check the name of the poster in the first post of each such thread. What individuals want/don't want, like/don't like, do/don't do has no place in a Bugs & Fixes thread. It's purely for Bugs & Fixes.

5. I will NOT have people criticising members of the development team, or their work, in personal terms ... not even OTHER members of the development team. That stops NOW!

It bears repeating here so I will repeat that I will make the decisions. Period. No second guessing allowed. If you like what I've decided, that's great. If not, borrow 50c and phone someone who cares!

I should warn all and sundry (that's everyone in general and not anyone in particular) that no-one is indispensible ... not even ME! I urge everyone to read again the description of How the Puppy Project is run, as laid down by Barry some time ago. Read, mark and inwardly digest as my old English teacher used to say... especially these final sentences:

ttuuxxx · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 06:36 Post subject:

wow WhoDo nice to see you put down the law, I'm still working on abiword, should be finished tonight, I started over from scratch again, things were getting too cluttered. This time its compiling even better, it found Goffice.
As the poll goes sure why not see how the public feels, your the dictator and don't have to listen, but poll are made for one thing, to give you some sort of idea what people want. Right now its at 9 out of 10 against having Pwidgets auto start or even be installed, thats 90%, but he do what you want, you know whats best and I have full trust in you, that you will deliver the goods Smile

Take care, get well and don't worry about it Smile

I'm still having fun Smile

So should you. Smile

ttuuxxx

Lobster · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 07:08 Post subject:

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3794

rjbrewer · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 4421 Location: merriam, kansas

Here is a simple way of making "full" install from "frugal" without
using cds'. Handy for testing release candidates. Don't know if
this has been covered anywhere before.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=282970#282970

rjb

rcrsn51 · Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 14:35 Post subject:

Caneri · Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 1574 Location: Canada

Hi Warren,

I hope you feel better soon...the lung infection can really drag you down so get the chicken soup going.

To make chicken soup just find a chicken that's so old it's teeth have fallen out and put it in a pot full of water and simmer for the afternoon or whenever it's coolest where you live...then clear the stock and add whatever veggies you like and voila...chicken soup. My chicken soup will hurt your eyes...from looking for the chicken...lol... as I usually just make veggie chicken soup and the meat is in sandwiches or pies.

This may cheer you up http://git.puppylinux.ca/
Pizzasgood has been testing out Git and we now have a server to run it. It's taken a long time but if this works a build for another release will be much easier...thanks Pizzasgood for the testing and implementation.

So get well and remember to have spicy food with a beer...no reason for this but it tastes good Wink

Best,
Eric