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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar 2009, 11:20    Post subject:  

I initially wanted to put the help as a mouse-over, but couldn't find anything in puppy that could do it... thus the "?" help... if someone knows how to get mouse-over to work I would do it that way... anyone???
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 03:16    Post subject:  

Bonjour,
Sorry, I do not know how. In any case thank you for this program.
Cordialement Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 19:53    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
I initially wanted to put the help as a mouse-over, but couldn't find anything in puppy that could do it... thus the "?" help... if someone knows how to get mouse-over to work I would do it that way... anyone???

David McClamrock (pa_mcclamrock) has almost finished Remaster Express (RemaX) and I've suggested to him that you might appreciate some assistance with this part of your project.

I also have some suggestions about content, if you have no objections. My suggestions are:
  • Add Firewall Configuration
  • Drop the Browser about:plugins page
  • Add Chooselocale
  • Add Set Timezone
  • Add set clock
  • Remove Gwhere (too obscure for newbies)
  • Remove Gparted (not a newbie option)
  • Change SAMBA to Windows LAN or similar
  • Change Netsetup to NetConnect
  • Plugging seems "obscure"
These are just suggestions, not requests, so please feel free to ignore them if they don't suit what you're trying to achieve.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 14:27    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:

My suggestions are:
  • Add Firewall Configuration - part of net setup
  • Drop the Browser about:plugins page - planned to already
  • Add Chooselocale - part of Country
  • Add Set Timezone - part of Country
  • Add set clock - part of Country
  • Remove Gwhere (too obscure for newbies) - planned to already
  • Remove Gparted (not a newbie option) - still think it should be there
  • Change SAMBA to Windows LAN or similar - changing to WinLAN
  • Change Netsetup to NetConnect - Changing to Net (has more than just connection or setup options)
  • Plugging seems "obscure" - thought it was more intuitive than eventmanager - other suggestions???


I'll take a look at David's code to see what I can see for mouse over

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 18:04    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
  • Plugging seems "obscure" - thought it was more intuitive than eventmanager - other suggestions???


I'll take a look at David's code to see what I can see for mouse over

How about "Hotplug"? I dunno, even that seems pretty obscure to me, but it seems a tad less so than "plugging". Rolling Eyes

Whether or not you guys manage to resolve the mouseover help, I'd like to see the main screen simplified somewhat. Perhaps a single help page behind its own icon with descriptions of each PCP icon or something? IMHO something like this should be more welcoming to those who need it.

Keep up the good work, technosaurus! I know you'll worry it until it's done, just like a dog with a bone! Razz

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 20:39    Post subject:  

techno

My support for keeping Gparted

WhoDo you'd be amazed at how many noob posts are about partition problems!
In general, sterling effort, techno - 5*

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 23:51    Post subject:  

Quote:
Gparted (not a newbie option) - still think it should be there


Time to accelerate the Noob development program. Give them the power.
I would leave it in Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Mar 2009, 16:27    Post subject:  

without the help it is <1kb compressed, looks a lot better and most programs that need help already have it... here it is with a couple of substitutions (ptray and pwidgets are better set from the tray - otherwise multiple processes start and don't quit on exit... bad)
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 04:55    Post subject:  

Good idea.
Now in Russian (only starting)
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Mar 2009, 23:38    Post subject:  

I figured out how to add tabs from here:

http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/gtkdialog/gtkde02-GtkdialogExamples/ar01s41.html

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 06:19    Post subject: New Twist on Puppy Control Panel
Subject description: Should I do some more work on this
 

Is this type of Control Panel worth pursuing...it was just a quick fiddle in Lazarus

Updated here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=293418#293418

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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 06:30    Post subject:  

i think that a tabbed interface would have a better look
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 10:55    Post subject: Tabbed Interface
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Is this more like it....
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 14:08    Post subject:  

@gposil - looks great, can you upload it?... looks like a lot of non-stock icons, which is fine they pretty good, I only tried to use stock puppy icons to keep the size smaller which made it kind of difficult to get a uniform appearance
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PostPosted: Mon 06 Apr 2009, 15:34    Post subject:  

gposil
please upload code Smile

Hope we find this in 4.2.1
and . . .
for 4.3 we will be instigating a massive drive to use GIT
Please start reading up on Git Smile

http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/wiki-tags/development/git

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