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lilleguard-liste · Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Loppa (Norway)

@Patriot

Thank you very much, Patriot, for having improved JWM! Having keyboard shortcut to showdesktop and including minimized windows when toggling is great! This should be included in future Puppy releases.

If you are still working on improving JWM, I have some suggestions:
1. possibility to change JWM
2. browsing through JWM menu by writing the first letters of the application I want ("Seam..." -> Seamonkey)
3. If this is not possible, is it possible to make an additional personal menu which appears by pressing a keyboard shortcut, and disappears after selecting desired application?

Why does the JWM menu have to be a single column? It appears by pressing F12 and disappears after selecting desired app. It wouldnt be in the way even if it covered the whole screen! Perhaps it could cover the whole screen, and your favorite apps could be huge icons, while seldomly used apps could be mini-icons?

And one more issue...
All of my choices above is derived from my wish to navigate with the keyboard, but sometimes I like using a mouse as well, and I love puppy linux for having the menu appearing if I rightclick anywhere on the desktop instead of having to navigate down to the left corner. But why isn't it possible to access the menu whenever you rightclick (even if you are clickin inside an open application)? I know that a application specific context menu appears, but the jwm menu could for instance appear above the pointer?

I hope somebody reads this although I wrote way too much...

tombom62 · Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 1

Hey everyone. New here, fairly new to linux (Been using it for a year, but not done anything fancy). I have one computer with puppy linux. I use this on my laptop (Debian) and my other copmuter with puppy linux. I have some others with various window managers and des but I LOVE EJWM! (That's what one of my frineds who showed this to me calls it). It does work on debian, or probably most linux OSes, so I think it should be more popular! It makes JWM stay lightweight, but it doesn't look old! (I always think those light WMs look kinda "old")

Great software, it's amazing. It should be more popular! I think this should come with and JWM distro. Like Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux. It's so cool. Cool

battleshooter · Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 1006 Location: Australia

Patriot · Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 734

Hmmm ...

@lilleguard-liste

Patriot · Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 734

Hmmm ...

I've recently looked into how XDG menus are converted to JWM menus in puppy. I've made some minor enhancements to jwm-xdgmenu utility & fixmenus script.

The jwm-xdgmenu will :

1. Add double spaces before a menu entry
2. Allow adjustable menu heights
3. Check for icon extension. Default to .png if it's missing.
4. still be backward compatible with previous jwm template.

The fixmenus script will now retain formatting and layout of the template. The sample template is for puppy 4.1.x and you are expected to use it as a base example.

At the same time, I've also updated blinky with gnome status icons to go along with the new look of JWM enhancements.

Rgds

battleshooter · Joined: 14 May 2008 Posts: 1006 Location: Australia

synth · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 210

Is there any way to fully maximize the windows (so they are covered by the tray) when the tray is always on top?

gpnet · Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Ivrea ,Italy

Hi to all Guys,

I am new here and to puppy. I was just getting confidence with it.

I am interested in this post because I was looking for a way to manage JWM menu items. ( add , remove , change ). I liked very much the images you posted and appreciate the work you did.

I don't know what is the name of the program responsible for managing the menu and how and where the items are stored.

If I well understood the jwm-xdgmenu-0.7.6-5 is the the program to manage the jwm menu ?. if so how can replace the original.
what is blinky ? how I use it ?.

Could you give me a hand to understand and to use these binaries ?

gpnet

gpnet · Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Ivrea ,Italy

Hi Patriot,

I investigate a little and I found some replies to my questions.
Now I know how the menus are managed and generated by jwm-xdgmenu and fixmenus.

I downloaded the patches you did and I tried to see what they does.
I don't know how to use blinky and where. I would like to reproduce a main menu with the same colors like I seen here in your post.

Could you give me a hand, plese ?

thanks

ttuuxxx · Posted: Tue 12 May 2009, 20:10 Post subject:

gpnet · Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Ivrea ,Italy

Hi ttuuxxx,

thanks for replay,

As I say in my post, now I know how the menus are managed. What I don't know is how to change fonts , colors, transparencies ..and so on...

I mean , I would like to reproduce the same menu Patriot post here. ( I liked very much) Do I have to read some wiki or tutorial ? or are there some example to do that?.

And about blinky.. Where do I have to put the binaries blinky-0.8-3big and small and how I can use it and where ( some script ??).

thank you

Patriot · Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 734

Hmmm .....

Hey there gpnet,

gpnet · Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Ivrea ,Italy

Hi Patriot ,

Thank for replay.

1. Thanks for showing me where to find info about jwm themes and colors. I tried and I see how it runs and take place. thanks.

2. I have puppy 4.2 installed with xvesa in virtualbox 2.2 env. ( hosted by XP)
It is possible to get transparency in xvesa ?

3. I don't know which jwm version I have installed. I mean your patches are included in 4.2 or not.?

4. I tried the command "which blinky" in terminal but I had no response, Than I argue I don't have any version installed, So where do I have to install these binaries ?.

thank for your help.

jakfish · Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 711

Been using stock jwm in puppy 4.1.3. Just to be sure I get the fully-updated version in this thread, do I use the the 2.0.1 pet on page one and then the patches on page eight?

Jake

gpnet · Joined: 09 May 2009 Posts: 51 Location: Ivrea ,Italy

Hi jakfish,

thanks for the suggestions ? , but is nor clear enough for me. I am a puppy newbie.

Are you saying that if I install a jwm update found on page 1 and than apply the patch on page height i have transparency working ?

Can you confirm this, please ?... and if so what I have to set in menus to get transparency ?.

What about the DIR where to install Blinky-0.8.3 big and small ??

Thansk