xfce 4.6 released

[Lobster]

Xfce is one of the simplest, most elegant window managers
Fine for Puplet users - bit big for standard Puppy
http://j1m.net/2009/02/26/xfce-46-is-released/

Any good?

[panzerpuppy]

It's awwwwwwwesome:

http://www.xfce.org/about/tour

Noticeably faster,tons of bugfixes and a much improved user experience..

I really miss this feature with the Puppy JWM/ROX desktop:


The ability to select multiple desktop icons and do whatever you like with them (group move,delete,etc.) like in Windows

The ability to adjust the brightness and saturation of the desktop is a very nice addition.

[disciple]

Yes, I'm keen to try it

I really miss this feature with the Puppy JWM/ROX desktop:
The ability to select multiple desktop icons and do whatever you like with them (group move,delete,etc.) like in Windows Smile

Eh? I can do that on the ROX desktop... are you sure you can't?
Maybe you just think you can't because your ROX is set up for single-clicks, not double-clicks, and you've only tried clicking on things, not dragging around them...

[`f00]

Since I won't be adding any to the printer testing in rc1..

This should be fun to check other wms sympatico (and do-able now that the 20mb savedir 'tax' is gone .. hopefully!) .. new jwm-alpha for sure, this new Xfce, the usual blackbox and maybe Windowmaker as well. Oh sure, AS if I can recall how it goes ...

Nice howto about multiwms in progress (; oooooooooooooooooya

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"Tricky.." DT from HHGttG

[magerlab]

i would like to taste this new release( maybe some one of our gurus could strip it down like gray did with 4.4.3 - only 4 mb) or now we can have sfs no matter size
i like xfce4 for it's stability and simplicity. and also composite effects are nice

Xfce4 is not just a wm but a desktop environment

[Colonel Panic]

I once saw the comment somewhere that XFCE is Windows 98 done right. Could be true.

I've had a few niggling problems when I've run it though, such as menus disappearing and about 41 Xterms (I kid you not) appearing on startup, but this might just be because it was a beta version. It's certainly good that Gnome and KDE have some competition.

[trapster]

hmmmm......where might JB4X4 be?

[JB4x4]

- I chuckled at your comment trapster. I will give compiling a shot - Just my own preference, but I will probably provide the whole thing, not a stripped down version.

JB

[trapster]

xfce has always been my second choice (behind fluxbox).

[DMcCunney]

Xfce is one of the simplest, most elegant window managers
Fine for Puplet users - bit big for standard Puppy
http://j1m.net/2009/02/26/xfce-46-is-released/

Any good?

I have it installed here, among others, and am becoming fond of it. It's heavier weight than JVM, but more highly developed in a variety of ways.

The big change for JVM users would be icons on the desktop. Xfce added those in 4.4, but they work differently than folks are used to - it's not a drag-and-drop operation.

Xfce has the concept of panels, which are similar to things like wbar. The default configuration has a panel at the bottom of the screen with base Xcfe features installed, and another at the top for virtual desktop support and where running apps dock. You can create your own, specify where they appear, and add functions to them. Xfce has an assortment of plugins that can be added to panels, and you can put programs there as well by adding a Launcher, where you specify the program to run, the icon to be dosplayed, and the tooltip that will appear on mouseover. Panels can be fixed to a particular location, or free-floating, placed where you like on the desktop. You can have icons for things on your desktop by creating a free-floating panel with one function attached - a Launcher for whatever you want to run.

Xfce also uses /root/Desktop as the location of desktop items, so you can put things there and have them appear. I use it to hold Mozilla Prism webapps, and icons for GMail, Google Docs, Google Calendar and the Puppy forums are on my desktop.

Panels can also auto-hide. I like a clean, uncluttered desktop, so the top panel auto-hides. I also created autohide panels on the left and right sides of the screen to run varios apps. The left panel has Audacity, Bluefish, Eclipse, the Gimp, Inkscape, Open Project, and Scribus. The right panel has Open Office 3 Writer, Calc, Base, Impress, Draw, and Math.

You can specify your default web browser and mail client in Preferred Apps.

Xfce comes with an enhanced Terminal applet that lets you have multiple terminal sessions in tabs, and a default editor called Mousepad, based on Gedit. (The latter is an annoyance. Mousepad is a little too minimal, and I'd prefer Geany, but haven't gotten the supposed way to change that to work yet.)

By default, Xfce comes with Thunar as the file manager, though it's supposed to be possible to substiture Rox. It's also supposed to be possible to use Rox to provide desktop icons if you do, though I haven't tried to do so yet.

I'd love a build of 4.6, especially if a larger selection of available panel plugins and the Thunar-volman plugin were included. I don't have the Puppy DEV-sfs installed, so I'm not in a position to build them from source, and finding binaries of some of them is a challenge.

Xfce is what I'd probably install as the WM if I were configuring a box based on Puppy to give to a non-technical user. It would let me set them up to run the stuff they wanted, while hiding stuff that would simply confuse them, like terminal windows.
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Dennis

[DMcCunney]

Bother! Dupe post. Sorry...

[DMcCunney]

- I chuckled at your comment trapster. I will give compiling a shot - Just my own preference, but I will probably provide the whole thing, not a stripped down version.

Please do. The stripped-down versions always seem to leave out stuff I'd like to have.
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Dennis

[magerlab]

i use a stripped down xfce 4.4.3 from gray but it has everything i need inside ( i added only composite effects )
again why do you call it just a wm?

[wow]

You'll need to hack the xfce4-mount-plugin to not show mounted squashfs files, it's annoying specially if you have more than 20 sfs loaded. Just add "squashfs" to the exceptions list in the source code. Thunar-volman won't work if you haven't installed HAL.

[ttuuxxx]

Ya I wouldn't mind the latest version stripped down, without dbus now that would be a treat
ttuuxxx