Is Puppy Green?

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disciple · #76 Post by **disciple** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 04:58

Thanks for the "heads-up" about the backlight staying on.
Does cutdown on lifetime of lcd screens; so I'll be turning
off power more often.

I think maybe you missed my point. By default Puppy turns the screen black after a while, but if you add the offtime setting to xorg.conf, the screen is properly blanked and should go into standby mode.

I think power down drives (stop spinning?) is just available on
laptops. Laptop drives only use 1/4 or less power than 3.5 inch
pc drives anyway.

I've never tried that, but it is usually an option on desktop pcs in Windows, and people do claim to get substantial power savings from it.
There is a manual command, which I can't remember... but I think you must unmount the drive first.

I was under the impression (probably mistaken) that "ecomoney"
was using old pcs' with crt monitors. I guess it is "standby" mode
that the crt monitors drop to after 20 minutes of non use.

They shouldn't switch to standby with Puppy's default screen "blacking" - they should need proper screen blanking. I'm curious to know exactly what's going on

disciple · #77 Post by **disciple** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 05:05

There is a manual command, which I can't remember

I think it is hdparm (with the right option) that you are after.[/code]

rjbrewer · #78 Post by **rjbrewer** » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 16:26

disciple:

Just to be clear about what I've found, (tried 2 different crt monitors)
on my pc.

After 10 mins. the screen goes black; moving the mouse will bring
screen back instantly.

After 20 mins. of black screen, the power used by the monitor drops
to 1-2 watts (depending on which monitor). Moving the mouse brings
screen back up slowly; just like pushing the power button.

If I remember correctly, it's done this since I started with 3.01 up
through 4.12.

I don't know how to modify xorg conf. yet; so have not messed with
any settings.

When I get a chance, I'll attach a crt to my laptop to see if there is
any difference.

rjb

disciple · #79 Post by **disciple** » Fri 20 Mar 2009, 04:15

Interesting... I wonder if there is some suspend function or something, using acpi or apm, that my machines don't support.

rjbrewer · #80 Post by **rjbrewer** » Fri 20 Mar 2009, 05:38

The bios in the pc is Phoenix 4.0 release 6.07 1998 rev. 1

Power button has sleep-wake mode.

Hard disk has timeout.

Auto suspend timeout--time in standby before entering suspend.

I've always just run default settings.

Couldn't get the laptop to run a crt.
Probably time for me to learn xorg config so I can get synaptics,
svideo, etc. working properly.
Have any suggestions where I should start?

thanks
rjb

ecomoney · #81 Post by **ecomoney** » Sun 12 Apr 2009, 10:46

A really good review of how "green" puppy is

http://greentechgirl.com/e-waste/puppy- ... omment-298

By a girl of all things!!!

Lobster · #82 Post by **Lobster** » Sun 12 Apr 2009, 11:38

ecomoney wrote:By a girl of all things!!!

It's an outrage!
Look what this gal has done with a perfectly good instrument . . .
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1905431/canon_rock/

oh Ok . . . I liked it really

ecomoney · #83 Post by **ecomoney** » Sun 12 Apr 2009, 16:40

Lobster...you need to be jumping on this sort of thing for puppy publicity, havnt you heard green is the new black?

ecomoney · #84 Post by **ecomoney** » Mon 13 Apr 2009, 02:13

this gal has even demystified the eternal secret of configuring the GRUB bootloader...far more difficult than playing the violin in my experience.

Aitch · #85 Post by **Aitch** » Mon 13 Apr 2009, 15:50

As they say - 'not just a pretty face'

Nice, useful find, Rob

Aitch

ecomoney · #86 Post by **ecomoney** » Mon 13 Apr 2009, 16:22

Wonder if we can get her to do a puppy linux beginners introductory tutorial?

Im sure it would be more watchable than anything I could produce.

Aitch · #87 Post by **Aitch** » Mon 13 Apr 2009, 17:13

He He

I've asked - better than the ruderies posted by some on there.......

"I'd like to grub her", etc

C'mon you nerds - get out more!

http://www.linuxhaxor.net/2009/04/11/ni ... with-grub/

Aitch

#88 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Fri 17 Apr 2009, 06:46

He He

I've asked - better than the ruderies posted by some on there.......

"I'd like to grub her", etc

C'mon you nerds - get out more!

WATT? Those DRMed sons of BSODs are attempting to sync with my linguistic style? I outta boot their ASCIIs so hard their cookies crumble. I outta >/dev/null their faces. I outta signal a high priority interrupt during their breathing routines. I outta skew their clocks until their flipflops pop. Their motherboards are so fat they could install Vista on their BIOS. Their idea of a fast chip is a Dorito on an airplane. Their opamps are more like op-outs. Their NANDS NOR. They think PI is 3. If they ever come within arm's reach, they're getting a 300mF cap to the head, followed by a swift rm -f *. I'll ^C them so fast they'll think I'm the Doctor. I'll rot their bits until their segments fault. I'll defrag their hides and sell them on Ebay. And then I'll be in their Out house, eating their foodz.

And to top it off, I'll have a cat notify them that all their base are belong to us.

aarf · #89 Post by **aarf** » Sat 25 Apr 2009, 05:46

Lots of people leave their PCs on overnight. Often, this is for no good reason whatsoever, it’s just out of laziness. But sometimes it’s a conscious decision: if you want your computer to continue receiving updates, or transmit/receive information of any kind during the wee hours of the night, you need to leave it on. But even the lowest power settings generally burn more power than you need to do that minimal amount of computing.

Now, those people can use a system called Somniloquy. Although this device may be hard to spell, it does offer a cool service. Most computers have four levels of power consumption – regular use, standby, sleep/hibernate mode and completely shut down. A lot of people, including myself, prefer to hibernate their PCs rather than shut them off, because it allows them to start up again more quickly. With Somniloquy, you can hibernate your PC and still have it communicate with other PCs. Check out more details on Phys.org.

edit:fixed link to physorg.com. click it to go.

Aitch · #90 Post by **Aitch** » Sat 25 Apr 2009, 22:21

Phys.org appears to be a parked page, however, engadget....

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/25/somn ... lk-essent/

PG, what have you been reading??

Aitch

#91 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Sat 25 Apr 2009, 23:22

Mostly Arthur C. Clark lately. Though, I was recently tricked into reading a boring love story (you know the type - couple breaks up, sees other people, attempts to get back together but hate eachother, then get back together anyway and live happily ever after...) because it was titled "Lightyears" so I thought it was a sci-fi. I quickly realized the truth, but I hate quitting a book once I've started so I had to finish it... But the Clark books are all great.

But that's not related to my rant. I read what you said, which I quoted. I was annoyed at people using (for nefarious purposes) my habit of misusing tech words and acronyms for other things, or as expletives. And I was tired and bored and overworked, so ranting and raving a little made me feel better.

aarf · #92 Post by **aarf** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 11:42

Aitch wrote:Phys.org appears to be a parked page, however, engadget....

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/25/somn ... lk-essent/

PG, what have you been reading??

Aitch

thanks Aitch.
added/fixed the link to the copy /quote from ecogeek.

ecomoney · #93 Post by **ecomoney** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 12:03

@ Pizzasgood

I find those types of books very good research reading into mankinds greatest mystery...womenkind

@ All

So....are we decided? Puppy is definitely "Green"?

If thats the case...we elligeable for quite a bit of funding to get some professional programmers/project managers in.

Comeon guys/girls....weve got the world to save.

Woof Woof

aarf · #94 Post by **aarf** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 12:45

ecomoney wrote:@ Pizzasgood

I find those types of books very good research reading into mankinds greatest mystery...womenkind

@ All

So....are we decided? Puppy is definitely "Green"?

If thats the case...we elligeable for quite a bit of funding to get some professional programmers/project managers in.

Comeon guys/girls....weve got the world to save.

Woof Woof

hey i am quitehappy to step aside and let you do the searching, proposals and leg work for all the funding, i am generous like that. send me a PM when get to the stage where you need a bank account number to hold the funds

hillside · #95 Post by **hillside** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 13:51

So....are we decided? Puppy is definitely "Green"?

Wait a minute. Do you mean actually green or politically green? I'm afraid there's a difference.

Actually green: everyone should adopt it
Politically green: government will promote it

I expect Puppy is both. But then, I'm biased.

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