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kirk

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Location: florida

PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 21:20    Post subject:  Fatdog 110
Subject description: Another Puplet based on 4.1.2
 

Here's a puplet based on 4.1.2.

Changes:

* Add Firefox 3.06 to replace Seamonkey.
* Add Komposer
* Add Sylpheed
* Add Scribus
* Add Pdfedit
* Add Gimp
* Add Kino & needed libraries.
* Add full Xorg 7.3
* Add SDL libraries.
* Add Qt3 libraries.
* Add Openbox and Lxpanel
* Add US English dictionary to Abiword.
* Upgrade to Flash 10
* Upgrade Gftp.
* Changed kernels to linux-2.6.28.4
* Changed to squashfs 3.4 with lzma compression.
* Upgraded ALSA libraries.
* Changed pup_save from ext2 to ext3.
* Fixed cancel job bug in CUPS.
* Added modem support for Blackberry (Verizon 8803e)
* Other stuff I can't remember.

Added the kernel source to the devx file along with qt3, SVN, and other stuff.

It's 124MB, you'll find it here:

EDIT: Please wait, I'll be uploading a bug fix version soon:

Also, you will find the devx_100.sfs file there along with a pet package for ATI fglrx.

I had originally built this with T2, but I was having problems with Xorg 7.4 with some hardware. At least the version I pulled. So I decided to just use the same package selection with 4.1.2.

EDIT: It's probably a good idea to disable automatic updates in Firefox. Go to Edit - Preferences - Update.

EDIT2: I did not compile the extra modem drivers. I did enable "Development" modules. So there is some different hardware support. For instance, the rtl8180 wifi module is in there.


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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 22:00    Post subject:  

kirk,

Thank you for the new Fatdog. My first impressions are good, really like Firefox as default browser. One problem, so far, Alsa is broken and will not configure my Soundblaster card.

The Puppy hardware interface information follows:
Quote:
filename: /lib/modules/2.6.28.4/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq-midi.ko
license: GPL
description: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer MIDI synth.
author: Frank van de Pol <fvdpol@coil.demon.nl>, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
depends: snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-device
vermagic: 2.6.28.4 SMP mod_unload modversions 686 4KSTACKS
parm: output_buffer_size:Output buffer size in bytes. (int)
parm: input_buffer_size:Input buffer size in bytes. (int)


Thanks,
Jim
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kirk

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 22:50    Post subject:  

Sorry to hear that Jim. I went to the latest kernel and ALSA libraries because there was no sound on my kids laptops with Puppy 4.1.2. You could try installing the ALSA library from Puppy 4.1.2. It's here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-4/alsa-lib-1.0.16.pet

If it still doesn't work then the driver for your card might be broken in this kernel version.
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Caneri

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 23:20    Post subject:  

Hey kirk,

Here's a mirror..it's been a bit slow lately but will improve soon.

http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/kirk/Fatdog/iso/110/

Best,
Eric

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Nym1

Joined: 12 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 00:42    Post subject:  

# uname -a
Linux puppypc 2.6.28.4 #1 SMP Mon Feb 9 17:04:37 GMT-8 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
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droope


Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Location: Uruguay, Mercedes

PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 14:31    Post subject:  

would download it, but it d/l's at 7kb/sec, too slow for my patience. Will try later Smile
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Puppy Dog


Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 20:41    Post subject:  

Nicely done with a professional appearance.
Full screen video --a BIG +
Looking forward to trying it on a laptop.

Thanks Kirk

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raffy

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Feb 2009, 09:58    Post subject: new class  

Nice fat dog. Very Happy The new kernel gives it a unique place together with Ultrapup. Thanks very much!

Will try it with the netbooks that I encounter.

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eztuxer


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Location: Belgium

PostPosted: Sun 15 Feb 2009, 18:47    Post subject:  

Sounds promising, I'll see how well the new kernel handles hardware support on the AAO.
Dwnld speed is about 8 Kb/s in western Europe.
Warning: Edit your prefs in Firefox to disable automatic update, (I ended up with no browser after it installed a new "non puppy" linux version on some ohter puplet). Sad

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kirk

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Feb 2009, 22:55    Post subject:  

eztuxer,

Thanks. Turning off automatic update is a good idea. I'll make that the default if/when I post an update.
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eztuxer


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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb 2009, 05:08    Post subject:  

First AAO report:
Wifi works out of the box, nicer Pwireless with % display instead of esoteric "16/70" quality rating.
Sound card works out of the box too including internal mic.
Haven't tested webcam yet as it needs lucview installed or skype to see if it works.
SD card mounting fine in left slot, not in right, sony memory stick neither.
This is how it works on the CD.
After installing on a 512 MB USB key, all I get is a black screen after booting (Xorg not working) no console either.
Could 512 MB be too little ?

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Sage

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb 2009, 05:17    Post subject:  

Another nice variant.
Would benefit from Opera10alpha instead of Firefox.
Time for those who can to grasp the nettle and fix the no-shutoff feature unique to this breed. I believe the solution has now been given on this Forum although I don't pretend to understand the discussions. Just because our Great Leader prefers to ignore it doesn't absolve wannabes from lifting this curse once and for all.

In the meantime, kirk, please observe the rules of this board and resize your picture. Thank you.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb 2009, 14:19    Post subject:  

eztuxer,

I booted from CD, Frugal, and Full hard drive installs, but did not try flash. I don't think I changed anything from 4.1.2 that would have broke it, but maybe. I think 512mb should be big enough. I've got a 512MB flash stick around somewhere, I'll try it in a few days.

Sage,

I tried Opera 10 alpha 1/2 for quite a while. It is a big improvement over Opera 9, but still has quite a few problems. It crashes quite a bit, the FTP client (if you can call it that) is very poor, you can't post comments on Barry's blog, and there was some other problem my feeble mind can't remember right now. It does have some nice features though. It is is alpha, so maybe it will all be fixed for final.

As far as the "no-shutoff" problem, is this the one that effects PCs with early ACPI implementations? (~8 years old) And booting with acpi=force fixes the problem? I wonder if making acpi=force has any disadvantages? Maybe on really old apm only PCs?
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb 2009, 14:47    Post subject:  

Interesting - I've not had any of those problems with O-10-alpha (yet).
As for the no-shutdown issue, yes, acpi=force usually fixes it for me with SiS chipsets on desktop PCs but there are reports that it doesn't work on several laptops. This is a very serious mater for the millions of SiS users around the world, as you'll be able to read on an item I am about to pen for MarkU about his Newyearspup. I think this shutoff failure must be addressed - it only affects Puppy.
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Feb 2009, 20:25    Post subject:  

Kirk,
Tried to install on 1 GB partition on new 16 GB key, same problem, black screen, no X, no console, nada.
I noticed that on the 512 MB key only 31 MB left free.
Don't want to install in on HDD cause when tried earlier with other puppies on other PC, it messed the grub and I lost access to all other partition OS.

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