PupFlux, PupFluxLite & now PupFlux421

[Stevo954]

Good work Steve, I love it. I remembered Fluxbox from DSL back in the day. One of my few complaints about Puppy and most puplets is the Windows 95 look of JWM and IceWM.
XFCE is nice but too heavy for my old Dell 566mhz Celeron.
This is PERFECT.

[steve_s]

Good work Steve, I love it. I remembered Fluxbox from DSL back in the day. One of my few complaints about Puppy and most puplets is the Windows 95 look of JWM and IceWM.
XFCE is nice but too heavy for my old Dell 566mhz Celeron.
This is PERFECT.

Excellent, and great wallpaper..

[beambot]

Hey steve_s,

will be there a PupFlux Version based on the new Puppy 4.2?
i like your derivate and use it on my usbstick?

good work, go on with it!

beambot

[Roy]

steve_s:

This looks absolutely wonderful -- especially the default background on PupFluxLite! P-L-E-A-S-E, let us know when an X-Delta patch is available for the Puppy retro kernel (2.6.21.7) so that I can run this on my netbook computer. [The standard kernel version (2.6.25.16) is a broken distro that will not even load to the boot menu on these machines and download connections at my current location are extremely slow/unreliable, hence my enthusiasm for a retro-kernel X-Delta patch.]

If there was ever a great idea for 1024x600 screen netbooks (running a standard JWM desktop or simply switching to fluxbox WM -- with a full-functioned distro which doesn't consume an entire Solid State Disk with bloat), this is it!! The standard JWM screen can be shared with new users while the fluxbox manager fills my own desires. Sorry if I sound a bit overzealous, but I am truly in awe....

-Roy

[steve_s]

steve_s:

This looks absolutely wonderful -- especially the default background on PupFluxLite! P-L-E-A-S-E, let us know when an X-Delta patch is available for the Puppy retro kernel (2.6.21.7) so that I can run this on my netbook computer. [The standard kernel version (2.6.25.16) is a broken distro that will not even load to the boot menu on these machines and download connections at my current location are extremely slow/unreliable, hence my enthusiasm for a retro-kernel X-Delta patch.]

If there was ever a great idea for 1024x600 screen netbooks (running a standard JWM desktop or simply switching to fluxbox WM -- with a full-functioned distro which doesn't consume an entire Solid State Disk with bloat), this is it!! The standard JWM screen can be shared with new users while the fluxbox manager fills my own desires. Sorry if I sound a bit overzealous, but I am truly in awe....

-Roy

I've got the patch just no way to upload it as it a little big to post...send me a pm about an email address and maybe I'll see if I can just send you the patch...glad you like the distro, roy.

beambot: maybe...I don't see why not...maybe I'll find a way to upload the patch and see if someone can pick it up for a mirror; that way one could just patch 4.2...like I told roy, I'll check on it...

[T_Hobbit]

Good work Steve, I love it. I remembered Fluxbox from DSL back in the day. One of my few complaints about Puppy and most puplets is the Windows 95 look of JWM and IceWM.
XFCE is nice but too heavy for my old Dell 566mhz Celeron.
This is PERFECT.

Hey! I'm using that wallpaper also!

[steve_s]

Hey! I'm using that wallpaper also!

...it's good stuff, huh?

[T_Hobbit]

Hey! I'm using that wallpaper also!

...it's good stuff, huh?

Huh... sexy...

[steve_s]

Hey! I'm using that wallpaper also!

...it's good stuff, huh?

Huh... sexy...

[note the sarcasm] it has a subtle message that is unclear and vague...not sure the message they are trying to portray.

[T_Hobbit]

[see the image] Homer Simpson looking at a big fat burger

[steve_s]

Ok, per Roy's request (and whomever is interested), here is a sendspace upload of the patch for puppy 4.1.2 retro to PupFluxLite:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bsdimc

If someone would pick it up as a mirror it would be appreciated...

If not, then those that are interested in it, make sure to get your download asap 'cause I don't know how long the sendspace upload will remain...

Please follow the instructions regarding patches posted earlier in this thread. Following those instructions, apply this patch to 4.1.2retro and you will have PupFluxLite.

[Roy]

steve_s,

I downloaded your PupFluxLite X-Delta patch last night and successfully applied it to my Puppy 4.1.2 retro iso! Thank you so very much for this astounding work of art!

A couple of questions though: How do I switch between your default Fluxbox WM and the original JWM... or is it even possible on the Lite version?

And although I am honestly in awe over this distro -- applying the patch seemed to have removed this Puppy's ability to use an honest 1024x600 screen (800x600 is the highest resolution possible by default). Is there a way I can restore the 1024x600 resolution?

This change looks and works wonderfully just the way it is, but I would like to tailor it to my machine's specs just a bit more...

-Roy

[vg1]

Steve,

in an earlier post you said the xdeltas for pupflux and pupfluxlite are about 8mb each. The one you uploaded says 51mb. Why is that? If that's correct it's not worth it.

If you still have the 8mb xdelta for puplfux can you upload it please

thanks
vg

[steve_s]

Steve,

in an earlier post you said the xdeltas for pupflux and pupfluxlite are about 8mb each. The one you uploaded says 51mb. Why is that? If that's correct it's not worth it.

If you still have the 8mb xdelta for puplfux can you upload it please

thanks
vg

heck if I know; the one I just uploaded is for the 412retro patch. Is it so big because of it is a different kernel than either of the other two that I did? In other words, the xdelta goes from 412retro kernel to 4.0 kernel in pupfluxlite...is that why? I just followed the same directions as the others...

I'll upload the other two tonight, but they are patches for 4.0 to pupfluxlite and 4.1.2 to pupflux, same kernel for each (that they were originally based on).

[steve_s]

steve_s,

I downloaded your PupFluxLite X-Delta patch last night and successfully applied it to my Puppy 4.1.2 retro iso! Thank you so very much for this astounding work of art!

A couple of questions though: How do I switch between your default Fluxbox WM and the original JWM... or is it even possible on the Lite version?

And although I am honestly in awe over this distro -- applying the patch seemed to have removed this Puppy's ability to use an honest 1024x600 screen (800x600 is the highest resolution possible by default). Is there a way I can restore the 1024x600 resolution?

This change looks and works wonderfully just the way it is, but I would like to tailor it to my machine's specs just a bit more...

-Roy

hey, roy, glad you like it.

With the lite version you CANNOT switch back and forth between fluxbox and jwm; part of the "lite" is the fact that I've removed JWM.

I know for certain there are a couple of threads out there that explain how to switch back and forth between window managers, so I would search around, reinstall JWM and switch as you want...if you figure it out, then post back and tell us the best way to do it.

As far as the 1024x600, I really don't know as I haven't played with it...anyone else have an idea on that?

I will add it to my list of items (along with those other patches for vg1) to do this evening, though...

[steve_s]

And although I am honestly in awe over this distro -- applying the patch seemed to have removed this Puppy's ability to use an honest 1024x600 screen (800x600 is the highest resolution possible by default). Is there a way I can restore the 1024x600 resolution?

Roy: this is how I solved the screen resolution here. WARNING: I would try this first with a livecd and see if it works for you, then you can change the same way using any installed version that you might have.

Oh, and I discovered this while at work using a Sony flatscreen on a pc via a livecd so, it's a wonder I didn't blow up the screen changing resolutions and what-not, but after messing with it for a while, these steps should work perfectly for you.

1. Open up a terminal and type

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geany /etc/X11/xorg.conf

We are going to edit your video resolution file.

2. Once it is open, scroll down to the area that says:

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Section "Monitor"

and look for the area that, on mine (could have a different default resolution for you) says:

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Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"

and change it to:

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Option "PreferredMode" "1024x600"

Then scroll down to the area that says:

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Section "Screen"

and look for the area that, on mine (could have a different default resolution on yours) says:

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Modes     "1024x768"

and change the 768 to 600

Now, make sure you save the file. The easiest way is to type Ctrl + S.

3. We now want to exit to command line and start X again. The easiest way I know of is to type Ctrl +Alt + Backspace and that will take you out of X.

Once out of X and now at the command prompt, with your new video resolution file saved and ready to go, we are now ready to restart X using that file.

Type:

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xwin startfluxbox

Like I said, after trial and error, I wanted to come up with the quickest fix. I'm sure there are other ways to do it. But with a few clicks, editing a file and a restart of X you could be all set.

Post back if that solves the resolution problem...

[Roy]

With the lite version you CANNOT switch back and forth between fluxbox and jwm; part of the "lite" is the fact that I've removed JWM.

Ah, that explains it!

vg1: The original Puppy 4.1.2 retro starts out at 95M, but after applying the 52M patch steve_s uploaded earlier, the resulting .iso is only 84M. Those numbers may influence your decision as to whether or not it is worth it... or may not.

steve_s: I will do a search for the JWM Window Manager when I next find good connection speeds, and give it a whirl. In the meantime, I am EXTREMELY pleased with your work and offer my sincerest thanks!

-Roy

[steve_s]

steve_s: I will do a search for the JWM Window Manager when I next find good connection speeds, and give it a whirl. In the meantime, I am EXTREMELY pleased with your work and offer my sincerest thanks!

-Roy

Great, glad you like it! But did that screen resolution solution work out?

[Roy]

steve_s:

No, as a matter of fact, the screen resolution fix did not quite work out -- at least, not when attempting it from a Live CD -- but it was very close to a success. I followed your instructions to the letter and restarted X by typing xwin startfluxbox at the bash prompt and... a 1024x600 screen briefly appeared before jumping back to the original default of 800x600 screen -- and stayed at 800x600.

Now, the beauty of a Fluxbox window manager is that there are no icons to look stretched or deformed when screen resolutions are not quite right and, while I am by no means a pro Command Line Interface user, the right-click on-screen menu serves admirably for me.

I *think* there is another file somewhere in the system -- don't know where to even look without a thorough forum search -- that gives a complete list of screen resolutions available for the first-boot xorgwizard to use. (Maybe I'm thinking of the same file we temporarily edited above.) Dunno. I'll have to play with things when I get the time.

Regardless, you have created a beautiful distro that I truly admire.

-Roy

[aragon]

steve,

one question:
on your screnshots there is a knob down right. i assume that this is a volume-knob. if so, could you give me a link to that one?

aragon