Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Mon 20 Jan 2020, 12:38
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects » Next Puppy Development » 4.x
Puppy 4.2 Alpha2-Firepup Bugs & Fixes
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 5 of 9 [121 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
Author Message
davec51

Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 531
Location: Virginia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 11:58    Post subject: Making Clock Readable
Subject description: Color and Background
 

Puppy 4.2A2 is great, but I'm having a problem with the clock in the system tray at the bottom right. The background is black and the numbers are green, and I can't read them. Is there a way of changing the font to white or the background to white? The analog clock on the desktop is fine, but when I have Firepup fired up full screen, I need the tray clock.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
ttuuxxx


Joined: 05 May 2007
Posts: 11242
Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 12:21    Post subject: Re: Making Clock Readable
Subject description: Color and Background
 

davec51 wrote:
Puppy 4.2A2 is great, but I'm having a problem with the clock in the system tray at the bottom right. The background is black and the numbers are green, and I can't read them. Is there a way of changing the font to white or the background to white? The analog clock on the desktop is fine, but when I have Firepup fired up full screen, I need the tray clock.

dave it sounds like your using icewm version
install my icewm pet, it will overwrite the one included and give you new themes, plus it changes the ugly green clock by default, to the new clock I made up:)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=14514
its like 800kb in size but should work straight out of the box.
maybe do the fixmenus thing then reset icewm and you should be good to go Smile
ttuuxxx

_________________
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
tom4jesus


Joined: 12 Dec 2008
Posts: 55
Location: Valatie, New York, USA

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 12:26    Post subject:  

Feed back

First, NOT bug reports but good things;
A couple subtle changes that I noticed right away that are really nice and make this version more user friendly.

1. I had the OO3 sfs in my home directory for my 4.1.2 install and once I saved my pupsav file for 4.2alpha2 and rebooted the Boot Manager automatically popped up when 4.2 started and asked me if I wanted to add it to the boot up, very nice.

2. I noticed the unmounted drives on the desktop are faded out and the mounted ones are in full color, another nice touch making it easier to see what it mounted.

I know you are still ironing out a few bugs in the themes and icons but it is really looking nice so far. I like how it looks very "integrated" with the matching colors etc... making it look like a slick OS. Wink

I am trying to keep up on what has already been reported and not post bugs twice but sorry if these have already been I had not seen them yet;

Bugs

1. The drop down menu does not drop down after I switched to iceWM.

2. The icon to edit the drop down menu, when it is there under JWM, does not appear to work and no dialog appeared to edit the menu when I clicked it.

Great work everyone!,
tom

_________________
Netbook; Compaq cq10 with Quirky008,Ubuntu 9.10,W7 Embarassed
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
ttuuxxx


Joined: 05 May 2007
Posts: 11242
Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 12:36    Post subject:  

Ok guys I'm putting off the other stuff because I have more pressing issues.
Cups&GutenPrint
The latest gutenprint I compiled up isn't set for the latest cups I compiled, Plus I guess the latest cups works fine installed with older gutenprint for about 2 times and then for some odd reason, the permissions changes on it, same with user 'Patriot' version, I've been talking with him and he's looking into it, does anyone have any Ideas why it would change on its own?? here's a link to the thread to read up on the issue.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38095

Next to get the Gutenprint updated version I made to work with the latest version of cups i would have to update Barry's scripts, because his scripts were made for Gutenprint 5.0 and this version is 5.2, that would be easy to change:) they all call for 5.0

SeaMonkey 1.1.14
Ok the Seamonkey Package I made up, works:) Buttttttttttt <---- Long but, lol
I started thinking about system defaults, so I started testing them, plus I didn't included hardly enough of them since I never had to before with the FireFox versions I've released in the past, But Seamonkey is whole different kettle of fish. Anyways lets get to the point.
out of the box, it was missing most of the default, fair enough, Then I tried them an ohhhh no Bareview, bareviewshell, gtkmoz, gtkmozshell, mozaddressbook, weren't working, then I added a system link to seamonkey1.1.14 to seamonkey and they worked:) but only command line Crying or Very sad didn't these work before by clicking on them? when you test the /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.14/TestGtkEmbed it opens straight up by click on it. So then I tried it with cups and removed the defaultbrowser i put in earlier so that cups would work in FirePup, and it was a no go.
I actually like cups being displayed in a browser where it has a back button and you don't have to start all over again:) This leads me to think what are our options??
I could remove the gtkmoz,bareview,testgtkembeded 19kbx3=57kb in bin files which really don't compress much.
It could also be that I might of compiled so much stuff that things are broken on my puppy, I'll reboot tomorrow and get rid of the 4 gigs worth of compiling stuff and try it again.
ohh ya one thing that won't work is mozaddressbook because thats part of the mail which isn't included but that could be linked to osmo.
ttuuxxx

_________________
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
techtype

Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Posts: 181

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 14:50    Post subject:  

Check the way this pet was done--- guten-5.2.0_beta3.pet-- it works.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
HairyWill


Joined: 26 May 2006
Posts: 2946
Location: Southampton, UK

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 16:41    Post subject: Re: Puppy 4.2 Alpha2-Firepup Bugs & Fixes
Subject description: "Deepthought" still trialing applications for inclusion
 

WhoDo wrote:
2. Unless I've patched the JWM theme switcher incorrectly, Hairywill's fix for the disappearing taskbar when changing themes needs work..
It looks to me like you haven't actually applied the fix
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=267260#267260
Sigmund gave a fix earlier,
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=264572#264572
but my fix is compatible with other puppy versions.
WhoDo wrote:
3. Pwidgets are still rough around the edges - the clock fix is kludgy and the updated func script supplied brought down the Pwidgets manager so I rolled it back out.
I agree, I'm not very happy with having my mouse pointer bounced around the screen every time pwidgets starts. This is particularly a problem if the wallpaper app is used to drive a desktop background slideshow because it calls fixwidgets everytime the desktop is updated. Ether the wallpaper app or fixwidgets need to give way or xonclock needs fixing or dropping.

It looks like you have not included ptray, just the top tray definition instead. This is responsible for the non-functioning left button that launches the tray editor and is also the cause of the button images missing from the tray.

The updated gpicview supplied by ttuuxx has an error in the .desktop file the icon image name needs a .png added.

It looks like you have installed the latest roxrightclicks over previous versions, this doesn't work well. I should have documented it. You should probably delete gview, fotox, seamonkey* from /usr/local/apps and then rerun roxrightclicks.

_________________
Will
contribute: community website, screenshots, puplets, wiki, rss
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
davec51

Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 531
Location: Virginia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 17:53    Post subject: Icewm Solved
Subject description: Thanks ttuuxxx
 

I installed ttuuxxx's icewm .pet and not only can read the system tray clock but also have a nice sticky, my sfs file monitor is back, and other goodies. Thanks, ttuuxxx.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4440
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 17:54    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
Quote:
but i've compared the alpha2 with other puppy-isos. the difference is, that the boot.cat is missing in the alpha2. might this be the problem (i don't know what boot.cat is...).
Yeah, it should have a boot.cat. There should also be an isolinux.bin in there. Both of those need to be in the isolinux-builds/ directory of unleashed. If they're missing for some reason, copy them in from a Puppy 4.1.2 .iso.

Aha! That's why my iso's weren't bootable. Thanks, PG. I learn something new about Puppy every day. Cool

Pizzasgood wrote:
Thirdly, there should be an isolinux.cfg, not syslinux.cfg.

isolinux.cfg for the CD
syslinux.cfg for the USB on vfat partitions
extlinux.conf for the USB on ext2 partitions

These all start from the 0rootfs-skeleton/usr/lib/syslinux/files/syslinux.cfg file. The install script or creatpuppy script will copy the file and then automatically rename it to whatever it needs to be.

There doesn't appear to be any option on building for the file to be "renamed" - your createpuppy script always creates the isolinux.cfg file. I renamed it manually when testing on my USB test bed and forgot to name it back before manually creating the iso. Why manually create the iso? Because createpuppy didn't create one with anything in it - nothing. It just created an empty iso shell of 34kb.

I'll add these files back to /isolinux-builds and see if the script now builds a complete iso again.

Thanks for the advice and assistance, PG.

_________________
Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4440
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:02    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Whats left to do
...[snip]...
Ps if WhoDo implements the new packages I posted on page 1 plus does a few minor tweaks, It should be very nice and usable, When I'm finished the last 2 on this list, I'll start on WhoDo's wish list.

Thanks, ttuuxxx. I've captured your summary for digestion and inclusion off-line. I've also downloaded all the fixes/patches in your p1 post. Much appreciated, mate. Cool

_________________
Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4440
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:05    Post subject: Re: alpha 2 testing
Subject description: initial test report
 

recycler wrote:
Looking forward to seeing how this develops

Thanks for the report, Leon. All of your points have been noted for the next release. Cool

_________________
Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4440
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:19    Post subject: Re: Live-CD not recognised as bootable  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hey WhoDo will the next release be Seamonkey or FirePup? If its SeaMonkey, make sure its set as defaullt browser, I'll check after but I don't recall if I made it so in the package.

@Jeff - Alpha3 will be Seamonkey-1.1.14, complete with Mail/News (pretty please? Razz ), Seafox theme, monkeymenus and CuteMenus (pretty, pretty please? Razz Razz ), and the build script should ensure it appears in the defaultbrowser file. Alpha2 picked up netsurf because it didn't recognise Firepup/Firefox was even there for some reason.

@David - I appreciate that your time is just as valuable to you as mine is to me, but please remember that I also have a life outside of Puppy and it happened to explode on me just around the time of Alpha2's release! My daughter-in-law has presented us with our first grandchild - a healthy girl of 4.3kg (? 9lb13oz) and 53cm (22in?) - so other things have been seriously distracting me from the task. Marsae (pronounced Mar-say like the city) was also 13 days overdue - a fashionably late young lady - so there were some concerns.

If you believe that I wasted your time with the Alpha2 release I'm sorry, but please consider that I had more pressing issues to address and kindly cut me some slack. Rolling Eyes

_________________
Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4440
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:22    Post subject: Re: Alpha2 boot fix should be Alpha3  

dogone wrote:
Just a thought. Alphas should be "as needed". I suggest that ANY change to Whodo's alpha2 .iso be released as alpha3 ("alpha 2a" if that's more comforting). There's no shame in spinnng another alpha and doing so may prevent confusion.

Precisely. I had only intended to upload a repaired alpha2 if I could do it within 24hrs to save others downloading a flawed package. For reasons outlined in my previous post that wasn't possible. Fixes will be in Alpha3.

Cheers.

_________________
Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
WhoDo


Joined: 11 Jul 2006
Posts: 4440
Location: Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:33    Post subject: Re: Puppy 4.2 Alpha2-Firepup Bugs & Fixes
Subject description: "Deepthought" still trialing applications for inclusion
 

HairyWill wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
2. Unless I've patched the JWM theme switcher incorrectly, Hairywill's fix for the disappearing taskbar when changing themes needs work..
It looks to me like you haven't actually applied the fix

Quite possible, Will. I've made my first pre-alpha rebuild for Alpha3 and it now works, so whatever I didn't do last time has been done this time.

HairyWill wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
3. Pwidgets are still rough around the edges - the clock fix is kludgy and the updated func script supplied brought down the Pwidgets manager so I rolled it back out.
I agree, I'm not very happy with having my mouse pointer bounced around the screen every time pwidgets starts. This is particularly a problem if the wallpaper app is used to drive a desktop background slideshow because it calls fixwidgets everytime the desktop is updated. Ether the wallpaper app or fixwidgets need to give way or xonclock needs fixing or dropping.

Preferably fixing. The new Pwidgets are central to the whole look-and-feel Puppy-4.2 Deepthought experience IMHO.

HairyWill wrote:
It looks like you have not included ptray, just the top tray definition instead. This is responsible for the non-functioning left button that launches the tray editor and is also the cause of the button images missing from the tray.

Yep. I left a lot of things hanging while trying to find out why the xdg menus were turning up blank. All of that appears sorted now and Alpha3 should have everything back where it belongs. I'd still like you to have a look at the ptray approach to see if you can do it better. I noted your earlier reservations about that script.

HairyWill wrote:
The updated gpicview supplied by ttuuxx has an error in the .desktop file the icon image name needs a .png added.

It looks like you have installed the latest roxrightclicks over previous versions, this doesn't work well. I should have documented it. You should probably delete gview, fotox, seamonkey* from /usr/local/apps and then rerun roxrightclicks.

Noted. I will attack these for Alpha3. Thanks Will. Your help is very much appreciated. Cool

_________________
Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
SIP:whodo@proxy01.sipphone.com; whodo@realsip.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 8744
Location: qld

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 18:56    Post subject: Re: Puppy 4.2 Alpha2-Firepup Bugs & Fixes
Subject description: "Deepthought" still trialing applications for inclusion
 

HairyWill wrote:
I agree, I'm not very happy with having my mouse pointer bounced around the screen every time pwidgets starts. This is particularly a problem if the wallpaper app is used to drive a desktop background slideshow because it calls fixwidgets everytime the desktop is updated. Ether the wallpaper app or fixwidgets need to give way or xonclock needs fixing or dropping.

I'm responsible for the cursor bounce. It can just be removed from /usr/sbin/fixwidgets.
MU has suggested using 'xmovewindowbyclassname' to show xonclock. It certainly has potential, ie, it works but needs bugs ironed out.
I've done plenty of searching and there just is not an alternative small enough to xonclock.
In zigberts absence we need the help of an experienced coder to sort out the issues using the 'xmovewindowbyclassname' clockfix.
Well I suppose zigbert will be back today or tomorrow, we can leave it to him, that's if he's not too busy.

_________________
Puppy Linux Blog - contact me for access
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
ecomoney


Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 2183
Location: Lincolnshire, England

PostPosted: Sat 31 Jan 2009, 19:59    Post subject: Observations  

Hi there, Ive been trialling alpha2 all day, Ive found the following faults so far

/usr/bin/defaultmediaplayer calls "gxineshell", rather than "gxine", this means that the menu entry for the mediaplayer calls gxine and opens it correctly, but the desktop shortcut fails to work.

/usr/bin/defaultchat calls "pidgin", rather than "attym", I dont know what it should be calling but whatever it is it doesnt work.

The flashplayer is still at an extremely old version, it wont play vimeo, bbc and facebook videos, and probably video from a great many other sites. I have read that flashplayer 10 was going to be incorporated into 4.2.

Ive been testing version 10 on 4.2 alpha (its in the usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory. Although being about 2mb bigger, it does seem to be a lot faster and smoother. I have tested it with facebook, youtube and the cbeebies website, and they all work fine. Its likely that a lot more sites will require later versions of flash in the future. If were going to future proof DeepThought, the latest version of flash needs to be included, especially if it is faster and more stable.

Would be good if the reason for a not working full-screen in youtube was found. Flash ten seems to actually open the first image of the video in full screen, but it crashes after that.

_________________
Puppy Linux's Mission

Sorry, my server is down atm!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 5 of 9 [121 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects » Next Puppy Development » 4.x
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0921s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0152s) ][ GZIP on ]