Puppy 4.2 Alpha2-Firepup Bugs & Fixes

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#46 Post by aragon »

now some reporting from a first test:

- chat deskicon does not work => defaultchat is wrong
- browse deskicon opens netsurf => defaultbrowser is set wrong?
- zip-deskicon does not work => we have xarchiver not xarchive
- deskicon for edit is not good, it'n not a notecase
- play deskicon does not work => gxineshell is missing
- dark menuicons old do not work well with dark background

- add ldconfig, so user don't need to reboot, if a lib installs to /usr/local/lib (this needs an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf)
- create defaultmusicplayer (with pmusic) and change the defaultaction for mimetypes that work with pmusic
- update libgphoto2 to support more cam's
- add new mtpaintsnapshot-gui
- add htop it's much better than top
- are gfontsel and xfontsel needed?
- cleanup setup submenu (remove the ones which are in the wizard?)
- show desktop should not be in in autohide section

cheers
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#47 Post by WhoDo »

aragon wrote:maybe try this simple script for the iso:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=36573
Thanks for the thought, aragon, but the makeiso script in Unleashed gets this far. It just fails to add the files, which is also a limitation of your script. Maybe you could look at the makeiso script Barry created and get your calls to add the other files from there?
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#48 Post by WhoDo »

aragon wrote:now some reporting from a first test:

- chat deskicon does not work => defaultchat is wrong
- browse deskicon opens netsurf => defaultbrowser is set wrong?
- zip-deskicon does not work => we have xarchiver not xarchive
- deskicon for edit is not good, it'n not a notecase
- play deskicon does not work => gxineshell is missing
- dark menuicons old do not work well with dark background

- add ldconfig, so user don't need to reboot, if a lib installs to /usr/local/lib (this needs an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf)
- create defaultmusicplayer (with pmusic) and change the defaultaction for mimetypes that work with pmusic
- update libgphoto2 to support more cam's
- add new mtpaintsnapshot-gui
- add htop it's much better than top
- are gfontsel and xfontsel needed?
- cleanup setup submenu (remove the ones which are in the wizard?)
- show desktop should not be in in autohide section
Great report, aragon! 8) I have captured it for the next release, thanks!
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#49 Post by aragon »

Maybe you could look at the makeiso script Barry created and get your calls to add the other files from there?
sorry, that far beyond what i'm able to atm? for the script i just combined the part from remaster and the part from dir2sfs...

but i've compared the alpha2 with other puppy-isos. the difference is, that the boot.cat is missing in the alpha2. might this be the problem (i don't know what boot.cat is...).

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Re: Not booting

#50 Post by tom4jesus »

WhoDo wrote: The file list and syslinux.cfg file seem fine. Try unpacking the iso to a directory and making a bootable CD with those files on manually, rather than burning directly from the iso.
Hope that helps.
I was not sure how to make a bootable CD from the files unless it is already an iso (still learning), but I did make a directory with the files and a grub entry for it (frugal install) and it booted up with no problems.

I will report back any unreported bugs if I find any.
It is looking real nice and I am posting this on Firepup from within it. :)

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#51 Post by ttuuxxx »

added to page 1
- Mtpaint with new snapshot delay scrip by dejan555 and made it default paint.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38165

- Xchat as default chat client

- Xarchiver Option 1 xarchiver-0.5.2-PupZip-v5.pet
updated mimes plus pupzip so the original setup works, so you don't need to add pupzip, but Xarchiver opens all the extra formats out of the box, PupZip was made so that puppy could use rpm and deb files even though rpm didn't really work, really PupZip is redundant now and should be removed along with its wrappers
- Xarchiver Option 2 xarchiver-0.5.2-i386-v5.pet
made with /usr/local/bin/defaultarchiver <-- needs to added to puppy pin, Don't install pupzip.

-Icewm renamed the package so WhoDo won't get confused, since this is like the 10 one so far :)
Changed Xlock link to /usr/local/apps/Xlock/AppRun
Removed the Jwm xdg menu (just make sure the restart with IceWM
is included with JWM xdg menu )
***Note this package works really well, There have been complaints about the Shutdown menu having too many items in a single column, Hairywill added tabs to the menu, to simplify it for new users and an advanced tab for others to enjoy, I liked it as 1 column but I guess it could confuse new users, So the tabs are default. Some people still weren't happy about other items like Pprocess being in the advanced tabs, Well if I can't have 1 column then I guess you can please everyone and that goes with removal of any more items, In the future maybe a 3rd tab for other things. I have other things to do for this project and can't keep getting stuck on menu, when it all works fine.

-Gutenprint with 1429 ppd files, 13MB and a separate Documents and locales package, That I think is a repo only item :)

-Htop 40kb a fine replacement for 'Top' :) I compiled the latest and made it work properly.

-libgphoto latest version plus dev-docs package

-GtKam Latest version plus I compiled it with the Gimp plugin, That actually works :) You can now import/aquire you photo's directly into Gimp:) I tried it on my small version of gimp 2.4.0 and it works
Plus a locales-doc package
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#52 Post by Pizzasgood »

There's nothing wrong with your makeiso script as far as I can see. The script doesn't explicitly put files into the iso. It just builds an iso out of the isolinux-builds directory. If a file is missing from there, it won't appear in the iso.
but i've compared the alpha2 with other puppy-isos. the difference is, that the boot.cat is missing in the alpha2. might this be the problem (i don't know what boot.cat is...).
Yeah, it should have a boot.cat. There should also be an isolinux.bin in there. Both of those need to be in the isolinux-builds/ directory of unleashed. If they're missing for some reason, copy them in from a Puppy 4.1.2 .iso.


Thirdly, there should be an isolinux.cfg, not syslinux.cfg.

isolinux.cfg for the CD
syslinux.cfg for the USB on vfat partitions
extlinux.conf for the USB on ext2 partitions

These all start from the 0rootfs-skeleton/usr/lib/syslinux/files/syslinux.cfg file. The install script or creatpuppy script will copy the file and then automatically rename it to whatever it needs to be.

The template will be missing the final append line. This is normal. The install scripts and createpuppy script add this themselves, since it varies depending on how Puppy is being installed. The final result after running createpuppy will be an isolinux.cfg file created in isolinux-builds/, complete with final append line.

If you have changes to make to the isolinux.cfg file, you should do them by changing the 0rootfs-skeleton/usr/lib/syslinux/files/syslinux.cfg file and then letting the createpuppy script update it (it does this just before it builds the iso itself). Otherwise the modified file won't be included inside Puppy's filesystem to be used for USB installs and remasters.

The exception is if you want to hardcode boot options. Those need to be done in the script that is applicable to the situation. So to set a boot option for the LiveCD you need to edit the createpuppy script. Just use find to find the line that has "append initrd=initrd.gz" and make the addition there.



That all assumes you're using the modified createpuppy script I provided.
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#53 Post by ttuuxxx »

Pizzasgood wrote:.
Hi pizzagood can you pleaseeeeeeeee increase the amount of postings per post, right now its set at a max of 10 items, I'm trying to keep all the updates located in one section, now I have to start posting like on page 5 where as my first 10 files were on page one, its going to make them scattered all over this thread. Can you change it to like 50 ??
Pretty please
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#54 Post by Pizzasgood »

Okay. Just don't make a habit of using that many in one spot. We're not a file hosting service ;)

But yeah, I see where that would make things simpler for this.
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#55 Post by ttuuxxx »

Pizzasgood wrote:Okay. Just don't make a habit of using that many in one spot. We're not a file hosting service ;)

But yeah, I see where that would make things simpler for this.
Thanks for that already uploaded 4 more packages :)
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alpha 2 testing

#56 Post by recycler »

The first alpha of 4.2 burnt to CD and booted on two out of three machines I tried it on. This second alpha does not boot - and like others in this thread I set it up as a frugal install and it is running ok.

I also have problems with desktop icons not launching appications.
Not working: Chat, Zip (error please install xarchive), and Play

Mounting a partition and clicking on a WAV file launches Pmusic. And puppy has correctly setup the sound card automatically. However (same old feature) when I close Pmusic the WAV file carries on playing :)

Trying to play an MP3 - click on it nothing, drag it to PLAY icon does not work and right clicking and using 'open with' reveals that links are missing for composer, gview, gzine and mozilla.

I can start Gzine from the menu and then drag MP3 files into its window....btw I set up Puppy with VLC as the default music player....looks better and has always worked well for me. And Mplayer has worked best for video....

Clicking on 'browse' starts Netsurf.....I expected Firepup - great to see that included - I;ve been on the net with it in this alpha release and have used it a lot on other puppy 4 series installations.

Looking forward to seeing how this develops
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#57 Post by ttuuxxx »

Whats left to do

- chat deskicon does not work => defaultchat is wrong Done Package page 1 ttuuxxx
- browse deskicon opens netsurf => defaultbrowser is set wrong?Will be changed to SeaMonkey next release
- zip-deskicon does not work => we have xarchiver not xarchive Done Package page 1 ttuuxxx
- deskicon for edit is not good, it'n not a notecase <----Job for WhoDo
- play deskicon does not work => gxineshell is missing <---Job For WhoDo
- dark menuicons old do not work well with dark background <---If I'm to fix this one, I need a working copy of 4.2a2 so i can get a feel for it

- add ldconfig, so user don't need to reboot, if a lib installs to /usr/local/lib (this needs an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf) <----Job for WhoDo
- create defaultmusicplayer (with pmusic) and change the defaultaction for mimetypes that work with pmusic <---Next on my list
- update libgphoto2 to support more cam's Done Package page 1 ttuuxxx
- add new mtpaintsnapshot-gui Done Package page 1 ttuuxxx
- add htop it's much better than top Done Package page 1 ttuuxxx
- are gfontsel and xfontsel needed? <--Not needed, users can view all fonts in abiword
- cleanup setup submenu (remove the ones which are in the wizard?) <--- wizards are nice, but direct links are more obvious
- show desktop should not be in in autohide section In what? Icewm?? I removed it because well by default most themes don't come with a matching show desktop icons, So then it looks out of place, I'll see what I can do about getting one that works with all of them.

1-2 things left on this left that I can do. The rest is simple and WhoDo's, at least I think so.
ttuuxxx

Ps if WhoDo implements the new packages I posted on page 1 plus does a few minor tweaks, It should be very nice and usable, When I'm finished the last 2 on this list, I'll start on WhoDo's wish list.
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Re: Live-CD not recognised as bootable

#58 Post by pa_mcclamrock »

WhoDo wrote:I'll also go back and see if I can create a properly bootable iso for this release, if I have enough time.
Yes, please! Speaking of having enough time, I don't, when it comes to messing with non-bootable isos that are supposed to be bootable--but I'd really like to try out Alpha 2 with a bootable iso. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Live-CD not recognised as bootable

#59 Post by ttuuxxx »

pa_mcclamrock wrote:
WhoDo wrote:I'll also go back and see if I can create a properly bootable iso for this release, if I have enough time.
Yes, please! Speaking of having enough time, I don't, when it comes to messing with non-bootable isos that are supposed to be bootable--but I'd really like to try out Alpha 2 with a bootable iso. Thanks in advance!

David McClamrock
I agree David, this 'Alpha' is a true 'Alpha' by all means, LOL, we did push him to give us what he had, I'll wait for the next release, Hey WhoDo will the next release be Seamonkey or FirePup? If its SeaMonkey, make sure its set as defaullt browser, I'll check after but I don't recall if I made it so in the package.
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Alpha2 boot fix should be Alpha3

#60 Post by dogone »

Just a thought. Alphas should be "as needed". I suggest that ANY change to Whodo's alpha2 .iso be released as alpha3 ("alpha 2a" if that's more comforting). There's no shame in spinnng another alpha and doing so may prevent confusion.

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Making Clock Readable

#61 Post by davec51 »

Puppy 4.2A2 is great, but I'm having a problem with the clock in the system tray at the bottom right. The background is black and the numbers are green, and I can't read them. Is there a way of changing the font to white or the background to white? The analog clock on the desktop is fine, but when I have Firepup fired up full screen, I need the tray clock.

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Re: Making Clock Readable

#62 Post by ttuuxxx »

davec51 wrote:Puppy 4.2A2 is great, but I'm having a problem with the clock in the system tray at the bottom right. The background is black and the numbers are green, and I can't read them. Is there a way of changing the font to white or the background to white? The analog clock on the desktop is fine, but when I have Firepup fired up full screen, I need the tray clock.
dave it sounds like your using icewm version
install my icewm pet, it will overwrite the one included and give you new themes, plus it changes the ugly green clock by default, to the new clock I made up:)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=14514
its like 800kb in size but should work straight out of the box.
maybe do the fixmenus thing then reset icewm and you should be good to go :)
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#63 Post by tom4jesus »

Feed back

First, NOT bug reports but good things;
A couple subtle changes that I noticed right away that are really nice and make this version more user friendly.

1. I had the OO3 sfs in my home directory for my 4.1.2 install and once I saved my pupsav file for 4.2alpha2 and rebooted the Boot Manager automatically popped up when 4.2 started and asked me if I wanted to add it to the boot up, very nice.

2. I noticed the unmounted drives on the desktop are faded out and the mounted ones are in full color, another nice touch making it easier to see what it mounted.

I know you are still ironing out a few bugs in the themes and icons but it is really looking nice so far. I like how it looks very "integrated" with the matching colors etc... making it look like a slick OS. :wink:

I am trying to keep up on what has already been reported and not post bugs twice but sorry if these have already been I had not seen them yet;

Bugs

1. The drop down menu does not drop down after I switched to iceWM.

2. The icon to edit the drop down menu, when it is there under JWM, does not appear to work and no dialog appeared to edit the menu when I clicked it.

Great work everyone!,
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#64 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok guys I'm putting off the other stuff because I have more pressing issues.
Cups&GutenPrint
The latest gutenprint I compiled up isn't set for the latest cups I compiled, Plus I guess the latest cups works fine installed with older gutenprint for about 2 times and then for some odd reason, the permissions changes on it, same with user 'Patriot' version, I've been talking with him and he's looking into it, does anyone have any Ideas why it would change on its own?? here's a link to the thread to read up on the issue.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38095

Next to get the Gutenprint updated version I made to work with the latest version of cups i would have to update Barry's scripts, because his scripts were made for Gutenprint 5.0 and this version is 5.2, that would be easy to change:) they all call for 5.0

SeaMonkey 1.1.14
Ok the Seamonkey Package I made up, works:) Buttttttttttt <---- Long but, lol
I started thinking about system defaults, so I started testing them, plus I didn't included hardly enough of them since I never had to before with the FireFox versions I've released in the past, But Seamonkey is whole different kettle of fish. Anyways lets get to the point.
out of the box, it was missing most of the default, fair enough, Then I tried them an ohhhh no Bareview, bareviewshell, gtkmoz, gtkmozshell, mozaddressbook, weren't working, then I added a system link to seamonkey1.1.14 to seamonkey and they worked:) but only command line :cry: didn't these work before by clicking on them? when you test the /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.14/TestGtkEmbed it opens straight up by click on it. So then I tried it with cups and removed the defaultbrowser i put in earlier so that cups would work in FirePup, and it was a no go.
I actually like cups being displayed in a browser where it has a back button and you don't have to start all over again:) This leads me to think what are our options??
I could remove the gtkmoz,bareview,testgtkembeded 19kbx3=57kb in bin files which really don't compress much.
It could also be that I might of compiled so much stuff that things are broken on my puppy, I'll reboot tomorrow and get rid of the 4 gigs worth of compiling stuff and try it again.
ohh ya one thing that won't work is mozaddressbook because thats part of the mail which isn't included but that could be linked to osmo.
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#65 Post by techtype »

Check the way this pet was done--- guten-5.2.0_beta3.pet-- it works.

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