Newyearspup 02 Micro, Mini, Midi, and Maxi RC10

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#226 Post by MU » Mon 09 Mar 2009, 20:06

ok, got it.
Please type:

cd /etc/X11/xkb/symbols
ln -s gb uk

Then restart X or type:
setxkbmap -layout uk

Mark

davesurrey · #227 Post by **davesurrey** » Mon 09 Mar 2009, 20:33

Well done Mark.
The keybd layout has never worked for me either despite various previous help (see Wow's earlier input on this thread) but it does now.
Thanks

#228 Post by MU » Mon 09 Mar 2009, 22:07

Dave,
I'm glad this is solved now

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I attach a small pet.
It has the missing symlink for british keyboards.
It also has 4 "keyboard-*.desktop" files (in /usr/share/applications/).

If you right-click the "buttons" in the LXDE-panel, you can add own buttons there.
"Application Launchbar" Settings - Add.

Then you get those buttons to switch a keyboard layout on the fly

Mark

Frila · #229 Post by **Frila** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 06:27

Now I'm happy again. At last my Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5000AGN Adapter works!! I can use my new laptop also. Just added iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode to /lib/firmware and now it works like a charm.
I'm smiling from ear to ear

.

Well done again!

I don't know if you have changed anything with the Network Wizard but that also works as it should. Earlier I have been forced to do some tricks in the terminal before being able to connect, but now it connects directly.
More smiling...

Sage · #230 Post by **Sage** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 06:45

Bingo!
Genius strikes again.
Thanks, Mark.

jamesbond · #231 Post by **jamesbond** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 11:29

Mark, stupid question - which one contains ATI & NVIDIA driver built-in? I tried Micro - it isn't there, I tried Mini, it also isn't there. Is it in Midi?

Also, I couldn't help but note that the welcoming banner of NYP is Puppy 4.1.1 .... does it mean NYP has not included patches for Puppy 4.1.2 ?

cheers!

#232 Post by MU » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 15:45

the nvidia/ati drivers are included in Midi and maxi.

I plan to release standalone pets this week, so that you also can use only 1 driver of your choice in ultrapup or NYP Micro/Mini.
This modular upgrade of the small versions is a goal for the next weeks, once the big ones run as expected (what they almost do now).

It is based on 4.1.1, but most files were replaced with newer versions.
Also some 4.12 patches were applied, and we modified several files on our own.

If you encounter any bug that was unfixed for 4.11, let me know, so that I can fix it.
Mark

Frila · #233 Post by **Frila** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 16:57

To day I decided to test Compiz. Well, of course it also works. Amazing, just a few clicks with the mouse. How have you been able to do so simple?

But why does the panel act as a window?? I can alt-tab it like it was an own window

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#234 Post by MU » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 17:22

Frila,

compiz is very different from other windowmanagers, not only from the look, but also concerning interaction with other programs.

For example, I once wrote a utility to list the IDs of all iconified windows.
It works in most windowmanagers, but compiz returns a empty list.

So in some cases - like with the lxpanel, you may see that things are not 100% integrated yet. Hopefully version 1.0.0 will fix these issues, but I think it still will take a while, until this is reached.
Compiz will be completely rewritten in the next releases.

If you understand german, this article might be interesting:
http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2009/13836.html

It explains a bit the background.
Mark

Sage · #235 Post by **Sage** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 18:23

Perhaps one needs to stand back a very long way from the coalface and ask what wobbly windows and rotating cubes can really do, except absorb masses of resources. It's exactly the sort of gimmick to be expected from the Jobs stable, then mimicked by the Redmond goons. Even in gaming, its achievement is difficult to relate to tangible benefits. Great fun, pretty, stretches the intellect for coders, but probably useless apart from the spin-off in touch-phones. Frankly, I don't see much future for desktop touch screens in the domestic scenario, anyway - W7 goodbye! Another overbloated expensive twist of the techno-screw to draw in the lemmings.

About System Stats, Mark: I'm a-thinkin' that a return to XProc in early Puppies might be acceptable and might save a bundle of code? The 'Advanced' option looks remarkably like the dmesg list which would solve that little problem. As I said previously, HardInfo confers little extra except bloat and benchmarking; the latter is entirely superfluous for compact/live-CD applications.

techtype · #236 Post by **techtype** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 20:49

Mark,

Typing java in the console of RC7 midi produces "command not found"??? Same thing in RC3 finds java. Where did it go??

Did you take it to class and forget to bring it back?

tlchost · #237 Post by **tlchost** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 20:54

MU wrote: Opera 9.63

Opera tells me there is an update available....which flavor should I select to work with NewYearsPup?

I installed Realplayer11, which Firefox calls with no problem. What file has the setting that allows Opera to do the same?

I've created a Bootable USB with RC7 and it works perfectly....so problems with saving sessions etc. Thanks for all the work.

Thom

#238 Post by MU » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 20:59

java is not included, as it would be another 30 MB.
But I just uploaded a SFS:
jre1.6.0_12-jedit-4.3pre16_411.sfs

http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06 ... Midi-Maxi/
user: puppy, password: linux

More info:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38690

You'll also find there Java_ee_sdk5_06-Eclipse3.4.1_411.sfs, but attention: it is almost 400 MB, as it is the development version, with the Enterprise edition and Eclipse.

I currently try to build a Java iso, with Eclipse, and the windows version of Java.
Currently the size is 800 MB, I want to reduce it by deleting more unneeded packages.

I post info about my progress here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39112

Mark

#239 Post by MU » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 21:06

For Opera I always use the slackware version.
Slackware 11.0, 12.0, 12.1
In the past, you also could choose "static" or "shared".
I used shared here, so it used the qt3 library I had included.
This has nicer fonts than the static version.

But it seems, the current one no longer gives this choice, I think you will get the "shared" version, so it is ok.

Mark

techtype · #240 Post by **techtype** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 21:09

MU wrote:java is not included, as it would be another 30 MB.
But I just uploaded a SFS:
jre1.6.0_12-jedit-4.3pre16_411.sfs

http://puppyisos.org/isos/2009-01-to-06 ... Midi-Maxi/
user: puppy, password: linux

More info:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38690

You'll also find there Java_ee_sdk5_06-Eclipse3.4.1_411.sfs, but attention: it is almost 400 MB, as it is the development version, with the Enterprise edition and Eclipse.

I currently try to build a Java iso, with Eclipse, and the windows version of Java.
Currently the size is 800 MB, I want to reduce it by deleting more unneeded packages.

I post info about my progress here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=39112

Mark

You are so fast! Were you looking over my shoulder? Thanks!!

#241 Post by MU » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 21:28

tlchost wrote:I installed Realplayer11, which Firefox calls with no problem. What file has the setting that allows Opera to do the same?

I am not certain.
look in /root/.mozilla/plugins/, if it has a symlink to realplayer.

Try to copy it to:
/usr/lib/opera/plugins/.

Mark

tlchost · #242 Post by **tlchost** » Tue 10 Mar 2009, 23:30

MU wrote:For Opera I always use the slackware version.
Slackware 11.0, 12.0, 12.1
Mark

Thanks Mark...worked like a charm

Thom

tazoc · #243 Post by **tazoc** » Wed 11 Mar 2009, 04:00

Hi Mark,
I'm testing Mini RC7. My box can't seem to enable DRI:

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(--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon 9200SE 5964 (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x5964)
(--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x00000000c8000000
(II) RADEON(0): AGP card detected
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"

(II) Loading /usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.5.2, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 4.1
(II) RADEON(0): initializing int10
(II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(II) RADEON(0): Legacy BIOS detected
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[dri] Disabling DRI.

Is this an unsupported card or am I missing something? I also have a Radeon 9600 AGP on another box--haven't tried it yet. Both cards can enable DRI in Puppy 4.1.2.
Thanks,
TazOC

#244 Post by MU » Wed 11 Mar 2009, 07:18

please type these 2 commands:

modprobe drm
modprobe radeon

If you get an error here:

# modprobe drm
FATAL: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.28.5/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko): Invalid module format

then delete
/lib/modules/2.6.28.5/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko
And rename
/lib/modules/2.6.28.5/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.bak
to
/lib/modules/2.6.28.5/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm.ko

Then restart X or better reboot.

I get the wrong module format error here, while the renamed one works.
It seems, wow forgot to rename it after experiments with the new mesa?
Mark

Frila · #245 Post by **Frila** » Wed 11 Mar 2009, 10:23

MU wrote:uploaded rc7

In rc6, there STILL was a wrong libdri.so.
And maybe some other wrong libs.

As a consequence, xorg was not usable on my notebook with SIS graficschip.
I now replaced again several libs, and now it works.
So if your graficscard did not work with Midi in rc6, it now might work.

Concerning SIS poweroff:
I looked at NOP, and it runs "acpi=force" from isolinux.cfg.
So I added this, too. Like this such Computers should power down, if run from CD.
I hope, this has no bad sideeffect on other computers, but until now, from what I had read, this usually is ok.

The weather-applet is included again, but must be activated explicitly in the desktop-options.
Also the deskicons themselves must be activated there, so the desktop looks less "overfilled" at startup.

I added the missing lib for E17.
I added missing GPG binaries, that caused an error starting Sylpheed.
Replaced Puppy Package Manager with localized version (french).

-------------------------------------
I spent hours, to check remastering.
Still broken: you can not use remastered DVDs for multisession.
After you saved the first session, Puppy hangs at startup at "setting up the layered filesystem". I found no solution yet

Concerning multisession with the original Iso - it works here:
I burned it with "Burniso2CD".
Saving sessions worked fine, but I got an error "Rock ridge" when I tried to save the 4th session.
After a reboot, I could continue to save sessions, though. I created more than 10.

I then burned a second DVD with pburn.
Here I could save 8 sessions without any error.

Googling for "Rock ridge" brought no help.
This error seems to be given for a wide variety of errors.
This can be filesystem charset errors, errors on the DVD, or others.
As I got this error only once, I just can suspect, that it was something related to writing speed or a bad media.

I however could NOT save a session, if I removed the DVD temporarily, to burn another one with pburn. This resulted in a seek error.
But pburn in general is problematic with my Phillips burner, I usually reboot, after I burned a DVD.

Mark

Have you finished rc7 MAXI? I'm not able to find it ... If ready, where have you uploaded it?

Sorry for this simple question but I can't find rc7

/Lars-Göran

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Newyearspup 02 Micro, Mini, Midi, and Maxi RC10

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Re: Newyearspup 02 Micro, Mini, Midi, and Maxi RC7

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Re: Newyearspup 02 Micro, Mini, Midi, and Maxi RC7

DRI disabled in Mini, is Radeon AGP supported?

RC7