Integration of 3G Wireless Modem Detection - 4.1.2 & 4.2.1

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windowsuser · #496 Post by **windowsuser** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 10:16

How do you remove the internal modem? Step by step pleaseee, and once removed is it gone forever or could I get it back whenever I need to?

rerwin · #497 Post by **rerwin** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 12:15

windowsuser,
Before you tear into your hardware setup, please try the method already built into pupdial. I described that in my previous post:

If another modem got detected before you install the packages, "erase' it by getting into PupDial (connect > internet by dialup... > no. In pupdial click the "probe" button, then the "ERASE" button, click Okay and X out of the window, then exit from pupdial and reboot.

That should take care of the HSF modem. If not, there must be more that I have to fix.

Thanks for the diag file, which I will get to later today.
Richard

windowsuser · #498 Post by **windowsuser** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 12:23

I had tried the erase according to your instructions, but that didn't fix it. On boot up it still came back with the same. I won't mess with my hardware setup, as you suggest.

rerwin · #499 Post by **rerwin** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 15:13

windowsuser,
I have looked at the diag info. Good news and bad news. The bad is that I am not confident that I have succeeded in getting the modems (such as yours) working that use the "hso" driver, so will need help from you and the others who responded to your other post to get that working.

The good part is that the "rule" that should cause the mode switching is present, but doesn't appear to trigger the switching program. I will check into that. If that fails, there is another way to make the switch, but first things first. When we do get the switching fixed, we will need to deal with the driver issue.

I am not sure about this, but it may be that someone has worked out how to run it through the GPRS option. My intent has been to examine the GPRS code for clues as to making the dialup option do the job, too. My main problem, other than time, has been my inability to connect with someone willing to help me work it through, primarily by testing changes I might try, and also advising me as appropriate.

So, now I will work up a solution to the mode switching problem and get back to you.
Richard

windowsuser · #500 Post by **windowsuser** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 16:45

I will be happy to work with you to get this sorted. There must be a lot of others with this type of modem. I would like to see the modem detected and functioning as I am keen to use Puppy for my internet. Until we get the USB stick functioning I won't make any changes to my current installation.

rerwin · #501 Post by **rerwin** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 17:49

The first problem is that the HSO mode switcher was left out of puppy 4.3.1. I have sent windowsuser a package to test with. I will include this in my next modem fix pack (6).
Richard

windowsuser · #502 Post by **windowsuser** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 18:50

rerwin wrote:The first problem is that the HSO mode switcher was left out of puppy 4.3.1. I have sent windowsuser a package to test with. I will include this in my next modem fix pack (6).
Richard

I got the same result after installing the test package. It still shows ttySHSFO.
I sent a PM.
The only thing is that this time the CDROM drive icon does not show on the desktop on rebooting, as it did all the other times. I did try replugging few times also.

rerwin · #503 Post by **rerwin** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 19:07

dejan555,
Regarding the ZTE MF626, I seem to have ignored it until now. Here is your last post about it before today:

Still no luck with ZTE MF626. I can make it switch to modem mode and enter /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 as modem device but immidietly after connect it disconnects and switches to another mode. (3 different modes from pluging it in till modeswitch and disconnect) Sad

But I may have something of interest to you. In the fix pack I am working on, I add code to deal with the problem of the modem being something other than ttyUSB0. Your case seems appropriate for testing out the concept. I need some feedback before I can be confident it is ready for the fix pack. Would you be willing to try it? They (actually 2 dotpets) should work for any puppy 4.3.1 derivative. But remember: it would be an experiment.

I suspect that some of the difficulties connecting are due to using the wrong ttyUSB#. As I understand, two numbers respond to AT commands. But beyond that, determining which is the right one is ambiguous. My fix provides both and allows the user to choose the alternate if the first selection fails. It might get us a step closer to solution for you.
Richard

dejan555 · #504 Post by **dejan555** » Wed 17 Mar 2010, 20:27

OK, just pass me pets, are they in first post?
BTW, I'm running dpup 2.6.30.5 kernel which seems to have your udev rules and usbserial module since it automatically recognizes my e220 huawei.

Stez · #505 Post by **Stez** » Fri 19 Mar 2010, 14:40

I've also got a ZTE MF626, and seem to have the same problem.

Yesterday the modem was found and it let me try to dial out. I then got the "no carrier" message. I think that was on ttyUSB1.

Today, the modem isn't being found. The initial connection screen says it's at ttyUSB0, but when I probe it doesn't find anything.

If I can 'find' it again I'm more than happy to help, though I'm pretty clueless on linux.

4.3.1, EeePC, t-mobile (uk)
modem_fix_pack_to_431-5.pet and pup_event_backend_modprobe_fix_to_p43x-3.pet installed.

richard.a · #506 Post by **richard.a** » Fri 26 Mar 2010, 01:51

Like many, I've given up on this project.

I'm now considering whether or not to spend a further $350 AU to buy the MiFi (marketed in the US by Verizon, I think) shirt pocket WiFi hotspot which receives 3G and outputs up to 4 or 5 standard wifi feeds.

This is being marketed in Australia by Internode (my provider) and will eventually be $50 more after the introductory offer expires.

http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/3g_wireless/nodemobile_data
http://www.internode.on.net/residential/broadband/3g_wireless/nodemobile_data/hardware/mifi
http://www.novatelwireless.com/mifi

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1199155.html

Apparently it has been tried by their support people with several Linux systems and one guy I discussed it with had personally used it with CentOS

Such a pity that as so many Ozzie single computer users run a 3G dongle with Telstra - or better choice of Optus with several others piggybacking on Optus (Internode is one) that we can't get it working

Richard in Adelaide (South Australia)
The state where bogus voting instructions won the election - and are not illegal

rerwin · #507 Post by **rerwin** » Fri 26 Mar 2010, 17:19

richard.a,
Please don't give up on me, yet. Although I have been busy with the modem resource-serialization issue, to ensure no random surprises during driver loading, I am now continuing with wireless modem fixes. I am working with a few people via PM to make progress.

Would you refresh me via PM as to your situation? I would not want you to spend the kind of money you are talking about to get something that will still be a challenge to make work. I would like to get the "Telstra 3G dongle" modems working, but need the help of users so I can understand what is happening. Actually, I thought I resolved that, but maybe not.

A "heads up": I am converting the mode switching function to use the latest means of support, which can differentiate among modems that initially have the same identifier but change differently. That avoids the hassle of editing a rules file in such cases.
Richard

richard.a · #508 Post by **richard.a** » Sat 27 Mar 2010, 11:15

rerwin wrote:richard.a,
Please don't give up on me, yet. Although I have been busy with the modem resource-serialization issue, to ensure no random surprises during driver loading, I am now continuing with wireless modem fixes. I am working with a few people via PM to make progress.

OOps I'm sorry it came out that way, looking at it, it appears like a personal attack. Not so and I apologise to to you and anyone else who might have thought it was.

When I said I had given up, the meaning intended was "It's too hard for me, as I'm one of those who needs to be able to click a dialogue box". Puppy is a brilliant thing, and one has to recognise puppies can't necessarily run faster than grown ups

(I used to run a dog obedience school btw)

rerwin wrote:Would you refresh me via PM as to your situation? I would not want you to spend the kind of money you are talking about to get something that will still be a challenge to make work. I would like to get the "Telstra 3G dongle" modems working, but need the help of users so I can understand what is happening. Actually, I thought I resolved that, but maybe not.

Would be useful to post my details here rather than in PM so everyone can see what I have...

Internode provided Huawei E160E HSDPA stick. Optus is the carrier

Works perfectly on a bunch of laptops and desktops/towers of various vintage, running WindowsXP SP2 and SP3. Not tried on Windows2000 of which I have several.

Almost connects on PCLinuxOS 2009.2 Gnome, 2009.4 XFCE. Not tried anything else apart from several varieties of Puppy 4.31. After communication with Internode support - who appreciated being kept in the loop via this thread - have not heard if they have been advised of any success with Linux systems.

I'm not a developer, although I used to write LISP code for AutoCAD years ago

rerwin wrote:A "heads up": I am converting the mode switching function to use the latest means of support, which can differentiate among modems that initially have the same identifier but change differently. That avoids the hassle of editing a rules file in such cases.

Regarding the MiFi device mentioned, it may very well prove useful anyway, for demo-ing a combination of Linux, wifi hotspots, and 3G connectivity among friends and business owners with whom I'm acquainted. (I'm retired from the work force)

We need more hotspots after all, and imho the internode hotspot system is possibly the best Australian one for minimal investment by businesses.

Richard in Adelaide
where we are still perturbed about bogus ballots

01micko · #509 Post by **01micko** » Sat 27 Mar 2010, 11:32

Richard and Richard,

I have set up a bunch of those modems (E160*) with Virgin (carries through Optus) and DoDo... Perhaps the "-chap" option is needed for Optus too? (in /etc/ppp/options). I uncovered that one awhile ago but I'm not sure your fix has filtered through Richard (rerwin) in all puppies.

Cheers

Greatnessguru · #510 Post by **Greatnessguru** » Mon 29 Mar 2010, 13:53

- Motorola VE465 mobile phone in USB modem mode
- Quirky010

Phone not automatically detected by either
Internet Connection Wizard modem probing or by
PupDial modem probing.

If I first modprobe "usbserial" for the phone (see below), then
Internet Connnection Wizard modem probing still does not detect it
"no modem detected", but
PupDial modem probing does then detect it.

[ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices ]
T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=22b8 ProdID=2b24 Rev= 0.02
S: Manufacturer=Motorola Inc.
S: Product=Motorola VE465
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA
I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 16 Ivl=128ms
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms
I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
E: Ad=84(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms

[ modprobe -v usbserial vendor=0x22b8 product=0x2b24 ]
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.33.1/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/usbserial.ko vendor=0x22b8 product=0x2b24

[ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices ]
T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0
D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
P: Vendor=22b8 ProdID=2b24 Rev= 0.02
S: Manufacturer=Motorola Inc.
S: Product=Motorola VE465
C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=500mA
I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=usbserial_generic
E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 16 Ivl=128ms
E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms
I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=usbserial_generic
E: Ad=84(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms
E: Ad=04(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms

I would be happy to test things that would get automatic modprobing and detection working for
both Internet Connection Wizard and PupDial.

Thank you,
Eddie Maddox

richard.a · #511 Post by **richard.a** » Mon 29 Mar 2010, 21:42

Regarding the MiFi device mentioned, it may very well prove useful anyway, for demo-ing a combination of Linux, wifi hotspots, and 3G connectivity among friends and business owners with whom I'm acquainted. (I'm retired from the work force)

We need more hotspots after all, and imho the internode hotspot system is possibly the best Australian one for minimal investment by businesses.

I wrote that in my last post, and this is a little off topic.

Since then, at 2001 yesterday (according to IRC logs) my main ADSL service went down due to a line fault. Australia's phone lines are all owned by just one telco. We are hamstrung here.

It's now almost 12 hours since the failure. I've been using 3G wireless connectivity to keep IRC bots and channel (chat room) logging going via a laptop with the 3G dongle mentioned previously.

If I had the MiFi I described - instead of the USB dongle - at least parts of my LAN could be operational to the outside world, allowing more than one computer access

UPDATED
I have the MiFi unit - a dash into Adelaide to pick up the unit from Internode.

A very simple job to transfer the SIM card, there is an instruction book.

I tested it out, and while a little iffy first up to recognise the unit on 4.3.1 vanilla, it did after 3 attempts. Also on 2.14X15 (nicely) as well as superbly on 4.2.1

This was on a Toshiba Satellite 1800, 896 Celeron processor, 256, and a D-Link PCMCIA AirPlus-G NIC.

Richard in Adelaide -
although my whois on 3G often says I'm in Sydney, 1000 miles away lol. Today it says Melbourne, 800 miles away:)

cthisbear · #512 Post by **cthisbear** » Mon 29 Mar 2010, 22:16

richard.a

Whirlpool forum...same problem.

" Im trying to get a huawei E160E USB modem to work with Puppy Linux. "

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... =-1#bottom

Chris.

01micko · #513 Post by **01micko** » Tue 30 Mar 2010, 04:31

richard.a

You may find this interesting so you can share you 3G internet, I have done it and know it works with ethernet, but should work with a wireless adapter too.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 11&t=37520

It is a great little program and it has documentation included.

______________

cthisbear

Posted a reply on whirlpool for your mate over there.

Cheers

cthisbear · #514 Post by **cthisbear** » Tue 30 Mar 2010, 08:02

01micko:

Good work mate...........Chris.

Aitch · #515 Post by **Aitch** » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 00:46

Richard a.

Which Mifi device did you get?

I'm curious, as I posted a link earlier for the Huawei E5830 one used by Three in UK

Good to see you got it working on 4.2.1, 4.3.1, and 2.14X - my 3 favourite puppies at the moment, but some tips on what you did would be useful

Do you have full web admin access? - the Three version seems crippled, [?] and seemingly doesn't allow wep ar wpa/2 security, though there are reports of updating the firmware, and unlocking the device to get around this - I only have mine [very new acquisition] working on Windoze, atm

thanks

Aitch

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