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Free memory indicator (bottom RH corner) - FULL INSTALL ONLY
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ttuuxxx


Joined: 05 May 2007
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Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 14:06    Post subject:  

Idea goes off,lol Sorry I was confusing it with my frugal install Smile I think frugal is the best for packager and developers, with my 13 gig pupsave, I copy it as pup_save.zzz and when I get a major muckup. I just restart and do the puppy fix=ram, then copy my files from the messed-up pupsave to a folder, then delete the pupsave and copy the backup and restart the pc and I'm back in business in about 5 or less minutes with the compiler,icewm and a handful of programs, very handy. I think I might give up on compiling live, its quick this way, because compiling live takes about 15mins just to check the dep when installing my devx_410.pet, then reinstall all my programs I use, maybe 1hr.
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rjbrewer


Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Location: merriam, kansas

PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 14:16    Post subject:  

Vague memory;

I had Redhat 9 installed when I first got my old pc.
It had the option of automounting drives. I tried that, but
once it automounted the cd drive and started mounting all
the rpm packages; (or something like that). Very messy.

Does mepis have something like that?
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bambuko


Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Posts: 385
Location: North Devon

PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 16:10    Post subject:  

well, I have tried Embarassed
the title of the thread is:
Quote:
free memory indicator (bottom RH corner) FULL INSTALL

and I started the description of the problem by saying:
Quote:
I have FULL INSTALL

fully in the knowledge that there was bound to be somebody who will advise me to do something with my pupsave file Laughing

I think, I will make suggestion to the mods, that we should have the section of the forum dedicated to FULL INSTALL,
where any mention of frugal, or multisession dvd, will be met with full and instant banishment from the section Razz

Joking aside, thanks for trying ttuuxxx (we all suffer from senior moments occasionally),
maybe now, that you know what I am talking about, you will have some idea about my problem Question Wink
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 16:15    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
. . .when I get a major muckup. I just restart and do the puppy fix=ram, then copy my files from the messed-up pupsave to a folder, then delete the pupsave and copy the backup and restart the pc and I'm back in business in about 5 or less minutes with the compiler,icewm and a handful of programs. . . then reinstall all my programs I use, maybe 1hr

seems to me like a very complicated way of doing things Question
when I muck up I just restore partition image and I am done in a couple of minutes, back exactly where I was before I started . . . Razz
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canbyte


Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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Location: Hamilton, Canada

PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:33    Post subject:  

Also having problems which result in cpu usage going way up as shown by the red area increasing. Trying to run audio cd Gets very slow, like the audio player is bloating itself in memory. No sound. Using 385meg ram. Should be enough. 17g free on HD puppy 4.1.2, on hd.


fwiw, Link to that thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37549
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:57    Post subject:  

I wonder, who? and why? has changed the title of this thread Twisted Evil
I have changed it back to original to avoid the usual confusion in Puppy forum when somebody asks a question specific to FULL INSTALL ONLY
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 18:12    Post subject:  

canbyte wrote:
Also having problems which result in cpu usage going way up as shown by the red area increasing. . .

is yours FULL INSTALL also?
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rjbrewer


Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Location: merriam, kansas

PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 19:36    Post subject:  

It's normal for the cpu meter to turn mostly red when a program is
loading. Doesn't matter if it's full or frugal install. It settles down once the program is loaded and running.

With my little 400mghz p2 it will be mostly red continuously when
trying to watch a streaming video website; and "top" shows the
processor usage at around 90 percent. Speed counts.
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 20:29    Post subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:
. . .Doesn't matter if it's full or frugal install. . .

AFAIK this meter indicates different things for full (free space on the drive/partition where puppy is installed) and for frugal (free space in save file)
Potential causes of problems and solutions are different for each type of install
Plus of course the size matters Laughing
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 20:46    Post subject:  

I wasn't talking about the little blue box with the numbers in it:
I meant the little grey box to it's right with the changing red graph.
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 21:02    Post subject:  

yes, just scrolling seamonkey screen up and down can take up to 30% or 40% CPU (all of this taken by X :0 -br -nolisten tcp )
and this on AMD 64 x2 Dual Core 5000+ processor . . . Rolling Eyes
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 21:59    Post subject:  

An idea;

Puppy doesn't support dual core processors yet; and in the menu
list of frugal installs the third line, (begins with kernel) ends with
puppyxxx=nosmp.
Check your full install menu list and see if nosmp is in there.
Might make a difference.
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 05:03    Post subject:  

sorry for being so thick Crying or Very sad
where do I find "full install menu list" ?
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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 05:21    Post subject:  

Your boot grub menu list.
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bambuko


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Jan 2009, 06:31    Post subject:  

sorry Very Happy
I should have thought about menu.lst Wink
line beginning with kernel has only:
Code:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=normal

and absolutely nothing else
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