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Free memory indicator (bottom RH corner) - FULL INSTALL ONLY
Posted: Sat 10 Jan 2009, 23:59
by bambuko
can somebody please help me to understand what is indicated by "free memory" thingy in the bottom rh taskbar?
I have
FULL INSTALL with 4GB RAM and no swap partition.
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# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3370384 352648 3017736 0 17976
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 3370384 352648 3017736
and
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# df -m
Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3 9844 480 8864 5% /
/dev/sda6 24987 14620 10368 59% /mnt/sda6
/dev/sda7 24987 9909 15078 40% /mnt/sda7
/dev/sda8 24987 6509 18479 26% /mnt/sda8
/dev/sda9 31981 25002 6979 78% /mnt/sda9
Where sda3 is Puppy partition (6, 7, 8 and 9 are data partitions)
The "free memory" thingy normally tells me that 8864 is free
(btw I understand that it is not RAM that it indicates, but what does it indicated for FULL INSTALL?)
what surprised me tonight (while surfing on Seamonkey, with nothing else going on)
that suddenly the usage went 100%, red box with warnings about lack of available memory appeared on my screen . . .
I must admit - I have panicked a bit and simply rebooted.
Everything is fine now, but I don't like things I do not understand, so I hope that somebody can enlighten me
please
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:11
by rjbrewer
Bambuko
The little blue box tells you how much space is left on that partition.
Run gparted to check it to.
rjb
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:16
by bambuko
rjbrewer wrote:. . .how much space is left on that partition. . .
sda3 - OK understand now, but it doesn't make sense with sudden 100% usage ?
how is it possible that, just surfing Seamonkey I went from 5% usage to 100% - weird
Is this something to do with the lack of swap partition?
I thought I didn't need it with 4GB ram?
rjbrewer wrote:. . .Run gparted to check it to. . .
don't need to
it's the same as df -m (see in my posting above)
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:30
by rjbrewer
Well; if your on sda3 it would say 8.8g.
Very strange.
Was it the grey cpu usage box turning all red?
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:56
by Mr. Maxwell
Go buy a memory riser and install 128GB of 1600MHz RAM.
Could it have something to do with puppy not supporting 4GB of RAM? (Asumming puppy is 32 bit not 64bit) It only shows 3.3GBs of total RAM. 32 bit OS's can only suport 4GB of RAM and 1 GB of that RAM is reserved for something that I can't remember.
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 00:57
by rjbrewer
Something I really don't understand: I only have 256mb ram and
it shows 0 shared.
You are showing almost 90percent shared. Shared with what?
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 01:12
by rjbrewer
Never mind; shift words left.
Try with 2 gigs ram.
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 08:06
by rjbrewer
Bambuko
A little searching indicates that puppy could use as much as 64 gigs of ram.
The only time I ever saw the flashing red indication and warnings
was when a frugal pup-save file ran out of space.
Maybe watching "top" will give an indication of what's going on.
good luck
rjb
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 10:03
by bambuko
rjbrewer wrote:. . .if your on sda3 it would say 8.8g . . .
it shows 8864 (1M-blocks) so this is fine
rjbrewer wrote:. . .Was it the grey cpu usage box turning all red?
yes, it was the grey box filling in red, additional red warning showing at the top of the screen, and free memory indicator going down to 0. . .[/quote]
rjbrewer wrote:. . .Very strange. . .
yeap, most puzzling
rjbrewer wrote:. . .Maybe watching "top" will give an indication of what's going on. . .
yes, will have to try it before re-booting next time
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 13:09
by bambuko
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9% 0% X :0 -br -nolisten tcp
4% 0% /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.8/seamonkey-bin
1% 0% /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
I am just browsing and running rxvt with top, so what is this
tcp?
quick
google search didn't come up with anything that would help me
but I assume it is normal?
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 16:35
by rjbrewer
Bambuko
Don't know what "nolisten tcp" is about. I just ignore it.
I meant, keep the "top" screen up and running while using
seamonkey and watching videostreams or whatever it was
you were doing when the problem happened originally; see
what the percentage of ram and cpu says.
rjb
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 16:39
by bambuko
yes, that's what I am doing now (running top)
and the percentage in my post above are what it is showing when working fine
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 16:59
by rjbrewer
Well; I'm totally bamboozled for now.
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:44
by ttuuxxx
just increase your pupsave file to 13gigs like I did and don't think about it
lol
I actually had it down to 8 gigs within 4 days, compiling browsers etc, Firefox takes 500MB of compiling space alone.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:55
by trapster
just increase your pupsave file to 13gigs
No pup_save file with a FULL install...
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 18:06
by ttuuxxx
goes off,lol Sorry I was confusing it with my frugal install
I think frugal is the best for packager and developers, with my 13 gig pupsave, I copy it as pup_save.zzz and when I get a major muckup. I just restart and do the puppy fix=ram, then copy my files from the messed-up pupsave to a folder, then delete the pupsave and copy the backup and restart the pc and I'm back in business in about 5 or less minutes with the compiler,icewm and a handful of programs, very handy. I think I might give up on compiling live, its quick this way, because compiling live takes about 15mins just to check the dep when installing my devx_410.pet, then reinstall all my programs I use, maybe 1hr.
ttuuxxx
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 18:16
by rjbrewer
Vague memory;
I had Redhat 9 installed when I first got my old pc.
It had the option of automounting drives. I tried that, but
once it automounted the cd drive and started mounting all
the rpm packages; (or something like that). Very messy.
Does mepis have something like that?
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 20:10
by bambuko
well, I have tried
the title of the thread is:
free memory indicator (bottom RH corner) FULL INSTALL
and I started the description of the problem by saying:
I have FULL INSTALL
fully in the knowledge that there was bound to be somebody who will advise me to do something with my pupsave file
I think, I will make suggestion to the mods, that we should have the section of the forum dedicated to
FULL INSTALL,
where any mention of frugal, or multisession dvd, will be met with full and instant banishment from the section
Joking aside, thanks for trying
ttuuxxx (we all suffer from senior moments occasionally),
maybe now, that you know what I am talking about, you will have some idea about my problem
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 20:15
by bambuko
ttuuxxx wrote:. . .when I get a major muckup. I just restart and do the puppy fix=ram, then copy my files from the messed-up pupsave to a folder, then delete the pupsave and copy the backup and restart the pc and I'm back in business in about 5 or less minutes with the compiler,icewm and a handful of programs. . . then reinstall all my programs I use, maybe 1hr
seems to me like a very complicated way of doing things
when I muck up I just restore partition image and I am done in a couple of minutes, back exactly where I was before I started . . .
Posted: Sun 11 Jan 2009, 21:33
by canbyte
Also having problems which result in cpu usage going way up as shown by the red area increasing. Trying to run audio cd Gets very slow, like the audio player is bloating itself in memory. No sound. Using 385meg ram. Should be enough. 17g free on HD puppy 4.1.2, on hd.
fwiw, Link to that thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37549