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Can I access my Windows files in Puppy? (Yes!)
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RedPlanet

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 16:08    Post subject:  Can I access my Windows files in Puppy? (Yes!)  

I recently started using Puppy Linux and was wondering if there was any way to access my files that I had used with Windows XP Pro.

Thanks!
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Flash
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 16:35    Post subject:  

Assuming they aren't some weird Microsoft-proprietary format, you can mount the Windows partition and open your files in Puppy (read-only). How best to do that depends on which version of Puppy you are using.
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Rich

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 16:57    Post subject:  

On my system here ( running liveCD with pup001 file on hard drive. ) the windows install can be found in /mnt/home.
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rarsa


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 18:50    Post subject:  

You don't say if the files are on the same computer? mor on a ZIP disk or on another computer.

You also don't say if you are referring to accessing the files or accessing the data inside the files. (not the same)

So, before venturing into answering:

Where are the files you want to access?

What kind of files you are talking to? Programs? Pictures? Word documents? CAD files?
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Ian
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Nov 2005, 21:17    Post subject:  

What Rasa says is a very valid and important point, I think there is a need here for a Sticky pointing out this to people posting queries.

Flash, I wonder if we had a sticky at the very start saying something like:

IMPORTANT !! BEFORE POSTING READ THIS

or

IMPORTANT !! READ THIS FIRST BEFORE POSTING

in bold red text would be good.

and go on to explain that to enable people to help with a a problem providing all the details of their machine and any steps that they took leading up to the problem would be greatly appreciated and also could they edit their post to add Solved to the heading or at least reply in the post saying that their problem has been resolved if and when they find a solution.

What do you think.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 00:59    Post subject:  

I think you'd be wasting your valuable time. Laughing But posts along those lines have appeared several times in this forum and maybe they have helped more than we realize. After all, how would we know? I guess we could compare the questions we get to the questions the Knoppix forum gets, to see which one is higher class . Wink

Perhaps you're expecting too much of beginners like RedPlanet. After all, he does say he just started using Linux. As I recall, I was pretty bewildered when I started using Linux. Confused Still am, come to think of it.

It's not helpful to say RTFM because often the FM is scattered in bits and pieces all over the net and it's like an Easter Egg hunt to find something that looks like it might be useful. Then much of what you find is undated and turns out to be so old it's useless if not downright misleading. Crying or Very sad

Is the red "First" in the Beginners sticky index about what you had in mind?
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Ian
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 01:38    Post subject:  

Something like:

Welcome to the Puppy Forum Beginners Help, before you post a question here have you tried doing a search of the forum or the Puppy Wiki (URL here) if you cannot find a solution and are posting here try to ensure that you have the following information available.

The make of your machine.
The amount of RAM (memory) installed.
The CPU (processor) speed.
What Hard Drives, CDROMs and DVDs that are installed.
The Partitions, size and type, on any hard drives.
What type of Keyboard & Mouse i.e. Serial, PS/2, USB or other.
Which version of Puppy you are working with.

Also could you describe the problem and any steps you have taken so far.

If you have trouble gathering this information see if you can get a friend to help otherwise include as much information as you can.

These steps are designed to help the people who contribute to this forum help you find a solution to your problem if it is possible, by including as much information as possible it reduces the amount of time that would be taken up by them requesting this data and you replying.

When and if your problem is resolved we would appreciate it if you could edit your original post and add Solved to the heading or at least add a post saying that the problem is fixed.

Thank you for reading this and we hope your problem can be resolved quickly.

Enjoy the Puppy experience.

How does that sound.
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Flash
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 01:50    Post subject:  

What about putting a link to your questionnaire in Lobster's sticky post? There we can quickly find it again when we need to copy and paste it into a reply. Laughing
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Sage

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 03:09    Post subject:  

Some other successful fora collect and collate areas of frequent concern or special interest into GUIDES, available alongside the headings. These are a bit more discursive than a FAQ list and are usually written by gurus and moderators who have most experience of real world concerns, especially to neophytes, in specific aspects of the technology. Topics of such merit can be discerned from a long term analysis of contributions across all fora. Puppy has probably now reached sufficient maturity that this would be a worthwhile exercise that could further promote the breed?
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 05:29    Post subject:  

I'll see if I can do that Flash but at the moment I am still reeling from reading Sage's scintilating reply.

WOW!!
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 05:39    Post subject:  

Done, I've actually put the body of my post in there as well as a link to the whole thread.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 07:05    Post subject:  

Nice to scintillate when one gets up in the morning. I do mine with two "l's", though!
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 12:35    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Some other successful fora collect and collate areas of frequent concern or special interest into GUIDES, available alongside the headings. These are a bit more discursive than a FAQ list and are usually written by gurus and moderators who have most experience of real world concerns, especially to neophytes

I can't really comment since you did not include links to any forums you consider to be "successful," but please write all the guides, how-tos and tutorials you want. We'll find a place for them. Have you considered contributing to the Wiki? It seems to be the consensus view of the Puppy community that the Wiki is for long articles and this forum is more for topical discussions about specific problems.
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...Topics of such merit can be discerned from a long term analysis of contributions across all fora.

Fine. We'll have a volunteer get right on it Smile as soon as you give us a comprehensive list of links to websites and forums you think are good examples.
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RedPlanet

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 14:01    Post subject: Re: Can I access my Windows files in Puppy?  

I did try and look through the stickies, but wasn't sure if they had the information that I was looking for, so I thought I might post a new topic.

Here's the deal with my computer- it's an IBM Thinkpad that is running Windows XP Pro. Right now, my comptuer cannot boot Windows (which happened after defragging it). Someone suggested finding a small version of Linux to use to boot my computer, so that I can transfer my files and then be able to reformat my computer.

So the computer that I am running Linux off of, is the same one with the computer files (such as jpg/gif picture files, music files, powerpoint and word files).

I hope that helps...

[edit] I forgot to mention that the version of puppy that I'm using is puppy-1.0.5-mozilla.iso
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Pizzasgood


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2005, 19:52    Post subject:  

Now we're getting somewhere. Smile To access drives in linux (any drives, whether hard, floppy, or cd) they must be mounted. Mounting is basically sticking them in the filesystem somewhere. In windows, that's usually at C:\. In linux, it's usually in the directory /mnt/.

So, on to mounting the drives. Puppy normally creates a file to store personal files, and while it's at it, it needs to mount the drive as /mnt/home. However, as you are using WindowsXP, the harddrive is probably an ntfs partition. Puppy can't create files in this type of partition (to my knowledge, I use fat32 so I don't pay much attention to the current state of things with ntfs). So, I believe, you have to download a pupfile from windows to do this. If you did, then that partition of that harddrive will be in /mnt/home.

If you don't have a pupfile (it would possibly be at C:\pup001), then you will have to mount the drive on your own. This can be done several ways. The easiest is to click the icon that says "drives" on the desktop. Then when it loads up (may take a bit) click the word "mount" after the partitions you want to mount (probably just "hda1" unless you have others). Then it should mount it for you and pop up a window with it. Remember to click "unmount" when you are done.

If that doesn't work, try Pmount (under "utilities" in the menu). It works similarily to the other one.

The last option is to do it from the commandline. You'll have to know the name of the partition you want to mount. hda1 is the first harddrive (a) and the first partition (1). The third partition on the second harddrive would be hdb3. Get it? hd, plus the letter for drive, plus the number for partition.
Code:
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows2

You may have to give the filesystem type as a parameter.
Code:
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows2 -t ntfs

or
Code:
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows2 -t vfat

for example.

Good luck!

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