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Which web browser 2009? POLL
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Which web browser should be used for the next Puppy release?
Firefox
26%
 26%  [ 30 ]
Seamonkey
24%
 24%  [ 28 ]
Opera
40%
 40%  [ 46 ]
Netscape Navigator
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Dillo
4%
 4%  [ 5 ]
Kazehakase
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Hv3
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Skipstone
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Flock
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Netsurf
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Chromium
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
None (add your own)
2%
 2%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 114

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darrelljon


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 11:06    Post subject:  Which web browser 2009? POLL  

Following on from the 2008 poll. Which web browser should be used for the next Puppy release and why? Swiftfox isn't viable.
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darrelljon


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 11:10    Post subject:  

PLEASE REPLY "FIREPUP" to vote for Firepup.
Javascript incapable - Dillo, Netsurf.
Lots of problems - Midori, Links.
See also 12 Browser Dingo.

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 11:49    Post subject:  

Since FirePup was accidentally omitted from the list, who ever wants FirePup, don't vote for the above and just type in the text box Firepup and we'll count the text. Or do it in large characters like below.

FirePup <--- My vote

We need more FirePup votes !!!
Total running votes for FirePup =13
ttuuxxx
nutts4life (with a newer version based on 2-3 series)
micko
Aitch
goforit
Sir Duncan
dogle
hillside
LaneLester
dave_cass
cagliostro
technosaurus
James C

ya midori is a qt thing, I think it might take a bit before its really stable, Plus we should have a full QT in the repo to support it, I had to compile QT so I could build madori because parts of puppy's qt were missing,.

But the most Stable, quickest and most featured browser, plus it was compiled on puppy, most aren't and then it was optimized for puppy. Plus Youtube works full screen out of the box. And has custom search engines for puppy.
Please put it on the list and if it wins, I'll build a new version on series 3
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup
FirePup

Cool
thanks for the support
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 12:14    Post subject:  

Isn't Firepup = Firefox?
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 12:31    Post subject:  

Yes and No,my latest is 1.5, but it has security features upgrades from 2,3 series. The theme styles are from series 2,3. And it has a following of its own. Its just not a rebranded browser, I also have parts removed, like upgrades and etc. So yes Its a firefox base, but no its not even close to being a run of the mill firefox. Plus all the added features. Seamonkey is closer to firefox, lol Firefox 3.0 series is suppose to be the fastest firefox ever, but FirePup loads pages quicker. I spent like 5 weeks working on that browser getting it to that point. So Really i think it does deserver its own listening, probably won't win but I hope it beats Seamonkey Smile Shocked

P.s Plus its the most stable firefox I've ever used on Puppy. For months now I've been using it and its never crashed once.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 12:58    Post subject:  

Chromium <--- too big uses wine, will never be a part of puppy until they port it to linux

Netscape Navigator <---- out of browser business AOL stopped supporting Navigator almost a year ago, the final version you can find on repo@puppylinux.ca (thanks Eric)

Netsurf <--- no save file as in the right click menu, so you can't save any files from puppylinux.ca at the moment and many other servers, it just gives you the actual code.

Kazehakase <--- never been properly packaged for puppy, kind of like the same Qt as midori

Skipstone <--- Nice but buggy at best, you need either Firefox or Seamonkey installed to use it, but it only uses the parts it needs, and the Firefox version hasn't worked yet on puppy, but has for Ubuntu. Once I managed to remove 50% of Seamonkeys size and it still ran.

HV3 <--- render slowly and uneven, and doesn't download very well either.

Really the clear choice would be in no order
FirePup <--- One you left out
Firefox
Opera
Seamonkey
Flock
IceCat <-- one you left out

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 13:34    Post subject:  

Seamonkey here. Maybe I just gotten used to it, but I find it less gimmiky, maybe more honest? than Firefox, and though I used Opera for years when it was first released, I struggle with it now, and I dont like email/browser combinations.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 13:39    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
Seamonkey here. Maybe I just gotten used to it, but I find it less gimmiky, maybe more honest? than Firefox, and though I used Opera for years when it was first released, I struggle with it now, and I dont like email/browser combinations.


Well Dave all I have to say is maybe give FirePup a try and see what you think Smile
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34876
PS you can always uninstall it Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 14:10    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx,

As you know i'm a big fan of your work and or Firepup. Firepup is quicker than Firefox 3.0.0. And i do vote for it to be placed in puppy.

BUT, i still think that the web site recognition issue we have with Firepup needs to be fixed immediately. Firepup must be recognised as the 3.0 by websites otherwise alot of sites can't be used.

ESPECIALLY some of those add-ons that maybe very popular with other members. Simple Mail for example. With Simple mail you are looking at similar functionality to SeaMonkey.

My thoughts...not worth much.... but they will have to do!

n4l
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jan 2009, 18:16    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Netscape Navigator <---- out of browser business AOL stopped supporting Navigator almost a year ago, the final version you can find on repo@puppylinux.ca (thanks Eric)
Netscape Navigator 9 is probably newer than some other of the browsers on the list.

IceCat is just Firefox.

Sorry for leaving Firepup out but I don't want to mess up the poll results by trying to edit it now like I did last years.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009, 00:14    Post subject:  

NEVER had a problem, nary a glitch with seamonkey. My only comlaint is that it looks dated: the old Netscape decal makes me cringe in memory of windows. What would happen if ttuuxxx wove some of those spells and effort into seamonkey? Might be a contender for other people. My vote is for the monkey even though I'm using Firepup right now. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009, 05:20    Post subject:  

Seamonkey or Opera for me. Or Konqueror if KDE is bieng used. Not in a base puppy though KDE is just too big for that.
Was disappointed with Netscape 9 when I tried it, felt like a step backwards from the Netscape 5 I used to use in win95/98.
Actually I prefer Konqueror over both Seamonkey and Opera but as I said above the extra KDE libs needed is just way too much bloat.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009, 06:59    Post subject:  

Seamonkey here, for official Pup. More advanced users can easily add Firefox and/or Opera.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009, 07:55    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Plus its the most stable firefox I've ever used on Puppy. For months now I've been using it and its never crashed once.

ttuuxxx

Me too. Wink

And it's the fastest. Very handy not loading all those bloody (flash) adds. You can load them if you want. Just click it! Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009, 09:04    Post subject:  

Another vote from me for firepup - [youtube fan]

thanks ttuuxxx

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