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Two-factor authentication

#76 Post by kitten »

In the following super secure method, you make a paper key card on your printer. Carried like an extra credit card, it's used to enter a one-time PIN code (4 characters), that expires in say 20 seconds, or some time you set.

Since you enter this PIN code after you've passed the challenge of account username and password, even if your password is compromised, intruder yet needs this physical, wallet card too, to crack in.

If wallet or purse is stolen, this card would be useless unless they also knew your memorized account name and password -- in Linux, this PW can be managed by a PAM module: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/

We could use it, or a similar "one-time" PW program, with PAM, in front of a boot into say TrueCrypt, and or KeePass -- to protect a stolen laptop's user data.

My broker issued similar key cards and made them mandatory, once shown that Name&PW, if used alone, can no longer be considered security.

http://www.grc.com/ppp/software.htm offers the PAM integration with this card. Couldn't it be easily adapted for a theoretical Black Ops Puppy?
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#77 Post by Lobster »

Kitten and all special operatives,

I love the password only readable for 20 seconds
option - but I ain't gonna use it.
Maybe if printable on rice paper and I can eat (to save 10 seconds
. . . you never now when Impossible Missions Force (IMF). might be using the latest flying robo spy drone)
http://current.com/items/90105261_us-sp ... w-eyes.htm

This morning (I have had this before)
my computer suddenly turned into a Windows machine
- yes really
AND I was magically infested with virii
that is what it SEEMS happened

In fact it was a redirect of the browser
and then an animated 'Windows page'
with javascript messages of infection
In other words a scam saying my Windows
machine was infected

Only I was running Puppy and had taken my fish oil and other brain vitamins

So I restarted x
and restarted the browser
Now then - because I was running SeaMonkey 2 (beta)
it went to the same scam page

I changed my default browser to the original Seamonkey
(quite happy with that) - which has adblock by default.

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#78 Post by Slapdash »

I literally laughed out loud when I went to the wiki and clicked on the 'Black Ops' article and all I got was "You are not allowed to read this page". Figures.

It may be merely a glitch. Then again... how deep does the conspiracy go?

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#79 Post by fyujj »

Hi Lobster. Do you know 20-120 Kg of your fellow sea creatures are sacrificed to get 1Kg of fish-oil?
Besides that, all the pollutants we irrational beings dispose into the sea concentrate there.

You can get much healthier Ω3, Ω6 and other brain vitamins from vegetables, including sea ones. :idea:

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#80 Post by fyujj »

I'm not much on conspiracy (rather keep my focus on Light), but this health site seems Puppy friendly. :)

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#81 Post by Trobin »

Slapdash wrote:I literally laughed out loud when I went to the wiki and clicked on the 'Black Ops' article and all I got was "You are not allowed to read this page". Figures.

It may be merely a glitch. Then again... how deep does the conspiracy go?
Not sure but I think you hjave to register on the Wikka to be able to read it.
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#82 Post by Lobster »

You have to register - that is right. Preferably at night, from a secret location. :)

Thanks for the fish oil tips.
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Isolated, pristine OS - every boot.

#83 Post by kitten »

I'd rather see the following concepts in a Secure Puppy. We have so many Puplets focused on hobby/entertainment/play. :roll: In a time of war and ever smarter cyber-crime, why not at least one little Puppy with a growing reputation for exceptional privacy and security.

These are from design concepts guiding "Ubuntu Privacy Remix" - based on Ubuntu 9.04

"Editing, de- and encryption of sensitive data should ... be done with a system that -

"- never has or had contact to untrustworthy networks like the internet

"- cannot leave data unencrypted on the hard drive, not even unnoticed or by accident

"- offers no opportunity to spyware to permanently install onto the system

"[UPR] tries to create such a working environment on any PC with the following measures:

"- the system resides on a read-only CD, i.e. it is in the original state after every reboot and cannot be modified afterwards. Spyware and other mailicious software cannot be installed permanently.

"- The system completely ignores any potentially compromised local (S-)ATA hard disks. Neither can they be used by malicious software to save 'stolen' data from UPR, nor could malicious software be loaded from hard disk into UPR

"- The system kernel is modified so that it cannot activate any network hardware. UPR therefore is an isolated system where it is impossible to exchange data via LAN/WLAN/Bleutooth/Infrared etc.

"- The system is based on free software which can be verified in source code.

"- To ease working with a non-modifiable system, UPR introduces "extended TrueCrypt-Volumes", which can store program configuration like GnuPG settings, OpenOffice dictionaries etc. permanently and securely within an encrypted volume. These settings are automatically made available after opening such an "extended TrueCrypt-Volume". This method is only an optional alternative to using standard TrueCrypt volumes.

"Ubuntu Privacy Remix therefore has two levels of security:

1: By being non-modifiable, it is impossible to permanently install malicious software, neither by network nor by local hard disks.

2: Even if it were possible for malicious software to load into memory (e.g. carried in and executed from removable media), there is no possibility to save or send captured data anywhere outside.

(On boot, you may select F2, English. Of course, it requires 384mb RAM - Wouldn't it be better as a light weight Puppy?)

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Re: Isolated, pristine OS - every boot.

#84 Post by Lobster »

Image

I am wearing a black hat
but I am no cracker or security expert
. . . and my hat is not lined with tin foil :wink:
kitten wrote:I'd rather see the following concepts in a Secure Puppy. We have so many Puplets focused on hobby/entertainment/play. :roll: In a time of war and ever smarter cyber-crime, why not at least one little Puppy with a growing reputation for exceptional privacy and security.
Well the Woof system is there
the multi user Pup is available
I feel I would use the Dpup option as my preferred route
http://www.dpup.org/

Some one will do it
Would you run it - or create your own?
Wouldn't it be better as a light weight Puppy?
I think you could be right kitten,

Puppy encrypts the data of your save file
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BlackOps
and is recommended for secure banking
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/OnlineBankingSafety

My understanding is spooks and black hats use BSD or macs
Is that correct?
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Re: Isolated, pristine OS - every boot.

#85 Post by Trobin »

Lobster wrote:Image
My understanding is spooks and black hats use BSD or macs
Is that correct?
They do but linux was used to hack the Xbox, Windows, ipod, etc.

They even use Opera, to defend themselves against other hackers, because tghey know that Opera doesn't get hackes as often as IE explorer.
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#86 Post by Lobster »

Thanks Trobin :)

Disciple has found this link from Nathan
which explains about Puppy 'running as route'
http://web.archive.org/web/200806040340 ... age_id=243
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#87 Post by TheProphet »

yes, I'm steeling myself up to work on yet another MS computer infected with that fake pop-up. One big difference now as opposed to Then (2 years ago) when last I dealt with the Nasty Satanic Device is that now all the Virus definitions have been updated about a gazillion times... and now it's listed as a trojan.

This morning (I have had this before)
my computer suddenly turned into a Windows machine
- yes really
AND I was magically infested with virii
that is what it SEEMS happened

In fact it was a redirect of the browser
and then an animated 'Windows page'
with javascript messages of infection
In other words a scam saying my Windows
machine was infected

Only I was running Puppy and had taken my fish oil
and other brain vitamins
They DO look incredibly like a Windows Internals message.
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#88 Post by TheProphet »

As the screen was flipping, after I hit the Submit button, there was an advert for Spyware Doctor.

Here's a couple of "social engineering" things I've noticed a lot of people doing.

One, I was at the pharmacy getting my prescription filled, and they had a security camera right behind the druggist's counter, looking right at his keyboard. The display for which was not visible to the customer at the counter, but if you're standing in line it is.

So you get to watch the druggist log on.

E..v..e..r..y k..e..y..s..t..r..o..k..e...

But there's yet another, more sinister... I learnt it while playing cards.

Eyeglasses are mirrors. When someone is wearing dark glasses it's even more obvious, but any spectacles will do.

So, use a non-standard keyboard layout for logging on. Dvorak works best for me. AND while logging on, take your glasses off if there's anybody in the room.

And unless you have much money to just give away, free charity like, don't wear dark glasses while playing poker.
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There's online banking and then there's Black Ops

#89 Post by kitten »

Lobster asked,
Some one will do it
Would you run it - or create your own?
Well I'd rather not have to trust my own creation, but I'm determined to have it, even if I have to make it. (On my XP CPU *today*, 13 new security patches were applied, and the business app that keeps me on XP+ is now recommending I go to quad-core and 8GB RAM. :roll: )

Online Banking...

All I first need is (like most of us, I'd bet)... a special boot CD/USB, used for online banking only (i.e. anytime my identity gets linked to money transactions) -- with both less and a little more than the cybercop recommended, above.

At minimum, it's only a secure core with a locked-down browser -- and as little else on the disk as possible, beside access to a printer receipt, like an ATM machine would provide -- i.e. no user data writes to disk, RAM gets overwritten on shut-down or reboot.

This Linux core could be BareBonesPup, Arch, TinyCore, etc. -- whatever can make the best case for security at the core level.

Before optional multiuser feature becomes part of the various Puppy cores, this unprivileged setup could be used.

With total disk encryption, and (say) the PerfectPaperPassword enhancement as above, the disk or stick becomes its own token device to your account -- isn't this is 3-Factor Authentication: Name/PW, crypt disk, wallet passcard for a 1-time PIN?

Here for example, is a step-by-step for total disk encrypting Slackware12 drive.

This "browser only" disk could also take us to an httpS, encrypted webmail site like this, HushMail

Black Ops...

The image of some cute little puppy trained for black ops, alongside German Shepherd, Doberman Pinscher war dogs... :shock: -- great logo and handle for promotion, cartoonists, and for a little levity -- and great goal for perfectionists to pursue -- a branch -- a different repository for all things tricky/secure.

But from TOR's privacy plan, (maybe more related to a Black Ops approach), at least I found *their* example of such a locked-down browser, reassuring for online banking. It came as part of this XP privacy package with their special Firefox (intentionally hobbled.) So far, this 4th browser is living without conflict with my previous 3 XP browsers -- (TOR travels slow, and still needs user diligence and forethought, but seems very promising as it grows nodes.)

With the help of this thread's focus, and with the 1st 20% of our Scroogling here -- we may have 80% of the security info most of us are after, even if it will take 80% more time and minutia to close that final 20% gap -- to the Black Ops (implied military-grade) level.

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#90 Post by Lobster »

Chris bear sent me this link recommending Linux Live disks for banking
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securi ... nk_on.html

Military grade Puppy?
m m m . . .
I think I would start with woof (a new gui is available as a separate download for 4.3.1 rc2)
http://www.puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=01169

I would build on a machine not connected to the internet
and assuming secure communication would be one of the aims I would . . . well I can't really tell you. It might compromise my security . . . and then I would be fish food 8)
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Nine ways LiveCD security could be defeated

#91 Post by kitten »

Look how clearly solutions to the online banking problem were laid out five years ago...

http://www.1729.com/secureinternetbanking/index.html

Wouldn't a bank be smart to offer its customers secure on-line banking that included -- (for a profit line set-up fee)

1: a business card size CD, that was the only way they could access their account via internet. Its single ap would be a locked-down browser that could only access their secure servers, using the account name and key for user to which it was issued.

2: a 2nd factor, wallet PIN card where PIN was only good for single transaction login. For deny ability, a customer could destroy its function by some special duress/panic PIN, like "911".

Since this problem is so technical to set up right, and fraught with slip up peril...

http://www.1729.com/blog/TenWaysLiveCDS ... dFail.html

This is a problem for some BANK's big-bucks marketing and IT teams?

Consumers only get what they demand. Customers refusal to bank on-line costs banks money. I'd sure be attracted to a bank that offered the plan above.

And surely there is a way in this money area to raise contributions for Puppy's advancement.

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I'm hearing security sirens, from the Pres on down...

#92 Post by kitten »

Here is where others with a Black Ops bent are taking their distros...

http://www.openwall.com/Owl/Owl-CD-large.shtml

or another example, this time lightweight: Note the FluxBox menus and tiny widget. Note "System Hardening" as a menu option.

http://techm4sters.org/forum/index.php? ... view;id=46

But yea, its a daunting task...

http://mirrors.unixsol.org/netsecl/docu ... ldocu.html

Yet since as even the Pres says, October "is national cyber security month in the US, with hundreds of federal, state and local government agencies, companies, non-profits and everyday citizens deploying themselves to educate millions of Americans about the importance of online security to themselves, their communities and the nation" - Peter Dinham in...

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28614/53/

Every other day we read that Window$, unlike Linux, did not design-in security from the kernel. So now the country and the world must pay for its greed and rush to market.

Any inherent advantage the pristine Puppy CD has in privacy or security may be run over, unless we train each generation of Puppies to fight or evade new intruders and protect their RAM and their disk.

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#93 Post by Lobster »

We have a program under Network 'MTR traceroute'

this sounds like "geeky, geeky geek geek" to me - what does it mean if anything for security?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traceroute

Developing GROWL for simple enhancements
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 455#353455
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#94 Post by clarf »

A needed read for Linux security audits:

http://www.sans.org/score/checklists/linuxchecklist.pdf

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