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Evil20071

I was looking today and it dawned on me that Puppy could very well make a nice lightweight web server for personal use. (Testing server or small personal web host). So, using 4.1.2 as a base, I'm going to start trying to put together some things, including compiling and packaging php, MySQL, and Apache into pets. (Won't be small, unfortunately). Anyone have any other suggestions/comments/observations for this?

prit1 · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 540 Location: Los Angeles

I had tried the Muppy server edition that really felt light weight. I am not sure if it had PHP and MySQL.

If you start from a stripped down Puppy like G-Pup and add the required packages - won't it help keep the size less?

Also, do you have the packages ready? How will packaged applications like Xampp work? I have never tried xampp on Puppy.

paulh177 · Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 852 Location: ST862228

fwiw ...
xampp worked very well when i tried it in Puppy, but it is more of a test harness and not really suitable for an internet-facing application (the developers explicitly acknowledge this.)

I also tried Abyss, which I liked a lot and has a nice management interface (good for people who don't like .conf files) and is easy enough to hook into php and so on. It is not a tiny application at 1.5MB but that's mostly documentation and gifs for the browser-based interface

http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/

growler · Posted: Mon 29 Dec 2008, 16:52 Post subject: puppy as a web-server

Check out the wiki entry

http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/archives/old-wikka-wikki/categoryusercontributions/lamp-vs-plhmp-php-and-mysql-with-hiawatha

There are real advantages to the hiawatha web-server already bundled with puppy compared to apache.

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4329 Location: Manila

Yes, growler's work needs more users. We can help him polish his work by using it. Smile

Hiawatha is small and secure, so it's worth trying.

Evil20071 · Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 17:23 Post subject:

All very useful. I appreciate it. Very Happy

What I'll end up doing is stripping out the majority of a spare 4.1.2 pup that is sitting on my flash drive (So I don't fux anything up) and just use the end result as a base. I'm thinking to include IceWM in place of JWM though... depending on which is smaller...

prit1 · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 540 Location: Los Angeles

I tried the pet mentioned in the Wiki entry to install PHP and MySQL. I did this in Puppy 4.1.1. The http://localhost/index.php is not working yet. It gives the error message

growler · Posted: Tue 30 Dec 2008, 20:42 Post subject: Service unavailable

I just discovered this also. It seems the library libmcrypt.so.4.4.7 is also required. I have added this to the .pet and uploading now or you can get it from tuxx's library database and create the links for libmcrypt.so and libmcrypt.so.4. I am not sure why this is required now in 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 when it worked ok in 4.0.

This fixes a snag with phpMyAdmin also that existed in puppy 4.0

prit1 · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 540 Location: Los Angeles

Thanks a lot. I downloaded the pet again and it works now. I am able to run php pages. I need to play around more.

Bappy · Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 17

Hi Guys,

This looks like it's exactly what I need Smile

I have 3 thin clients that I want to use for webserving...

they are all neoware capio 800s - they use amd gx1 cpus.

I want to get mysql running on one of them (which has been upgraded to include a 4.6gb hdd), apache or cherokee or this other web server you mention plus php on another one which has a 512mb solid state harddrive.

the third machine will be getting a 10gb hdd for use as a squid/squidguard proxy with parental filters etc.

does this sound like the kind of project that puppy linux is suited to? I would be hoping to run the jinzora media server on it. I can go buy a small 2.5" hdd for the webserver box if 512mb isnt enough.

Thanks Guys!

growler · Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 01:20 Post subject:

if you can run puppy on it and have 20 Meg spare then you can install the hiawatha/mysql/php dot pet application that has PHP 5 and mysql 5 in it. mysql is the heaviest application to run and on a pentium II 850 MegHz with 256 Meg RAM machine it works well and has 50 Meg RAM free - from a HD install - mysql consumes most CPU

Bappy · Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 17

Cool thanks Smile

Are there any pets for running mysql as a standalone on one machine and hiawatha/php on another standalone?

do the pet files deal with dependencies automatically? I'm thinking I could install the minimal version of puppy on the 512MB disk which should leave enough space for hiawatha, php and a few meg left over for php files.

thoughts?

ta,
Ben

Flash

growler · Posted: Wed 14 Jan 2009, 16:20 Post subject: mysql standalone

Bappy · Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 17

awesome thanks growler.

i dont currently have any clue as to how to make a php webserver point to another server for it's mysql database but i'm pretty sure i'll work it out Smile

any idea how many megabytes the barebones install takes up on the full hdd install?