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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 15:02    Post subject:
Subject description: ze handbuch, bitte ..
 

one - procure here, save ..
or a more recent version Laughing and extract ..

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four (optional) - try Help again Wink
this time, it's LOCAL - look Ma, no internets needed!
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 15:55    Post subject:  

wjaguar wrote:
BTW, why not put a link to http://mtpaint.sourceforge.net/handbook/en_GB/chap_00.html into Puppy's Help menu? Lately, I see a bit too many people who don't even know mtPaint is supposed to have a manual - so it would be useful to make the manual easier to find.

Agreed. Idea

wjaguar wrote:
And one more thing - when is Puppy 4.2 expected to be released? I have several bugfixes for mtPaint 3.30, and am going to do the 3.31 bugfix release soon - and it'd be unfortunate if I released it too late.

Assuming the last few items of cleanup go as planned, I'll probably release 4.2 Final around Wednesday of this week (my time GMT +10). If you need any more time just let me know. I'd be happy to hold off for the right incentive! Razz

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 17:01    Post subject:  

WhoDo wrote:
Assuming the last few items of cleanup go as planned, I'll probably release 4.2 Final around Wednesday of this week (my time GMT +10). If you need any more time just let me know. I'd be happy to hold off for the right incentive! Razz

Myself, I plan to release version 3.31 the next weekend (i.e., on March 28th or 29th) - but as far as bugfixes go, version 3.30.03 here already has them all. What isn't yet done is updating docs (the handbook released with version 3.30 had a few things left out) and adding a new small feature or two (I don't like to do pure bugfix releases).
So if you would rather release Puppy 4.2 before March 30th, you can just use the version 3.30.03 without missing anything important - but waiting till proper 3.31 release is going to be at least somewhat rewarded. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 17:21    Post subject:  

@wjaguar: mtPaint has a serious (usability) issue: Resizing a selection vertically or horizontally is a pain in the butt.

Try this little freeware app for Windows (works with WINE):

http://photofiltre.free.fr/utils/pf-setup-en.exe

and see how the horizontal / vertical resizing works there. Then you'll see what's wrong with mtPaint.
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 18:49    Post subject:  

synth wrote:
@wjaguar: mtPaint has a serious (usability) issue: Resizing a selection vertically or horizontally is a pain in the butt.

mtPaint does not implement the very concept of "selections" - so, quite obviously, cannot do any operations on them. There are images which get modified, and clipboards which get copied and pasted - with nothing in between.

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Try this little freeware app for Windows (works with WINE):
http://photofiltre.free.fr/utils/pf-setup-en.exe
and see how the horizontal / vertical resizing works there. Then you'll see what's wrong with mtPaint.

If you think there is an usability issue with mtPaint, then present an use case - with a clear example and at least a bit of explanation. I don't have time to waste hunting for obscure hints in Windows programs I never before used - and puzzle-solving never was my favorite occupation. Smile

And if you like Photofiltre, then you might want to do something to help with its Linux port: http://pflx.x10hosting.com/. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009, 22:25    Post subject:  

I tried putting some things in mtPaint's Preferences and rebooting to make sure the changes were saved, but still I get the same error message when I click Documents in mtPaint's Help menu. What am I doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 04:45    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
What am I doing wrong?

You put an http:// URL where mtPaint expects a local filename.
Currently, mtPaint doesn't allow to use remote URL as documentation link; it checks if a local file with that name is present - which obviously fails - and reports error without even trying to actually launch a browser.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 06:31    Post subject:  

@Flash,

mtpaint v3.29 handbook is available as a .pet here.
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Mar 2009, 10:04    Post subject:  

Thanks to both of you. Smile

Wjaguar, I guessed that might be the problem but couldn't think of a way to confirm my guess.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar 2009, 20:02    Post subject: mtpaint default canvas color
Subject description: from black to white
 

just a question. I like to have a white baground at mtpaint start (default canvas color is black), it is possible to change the default background from black to white?
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Mar 2009, 21:30    Post subject:  

could you just have a local file with an automatic redirect to a web page???

<meta HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" content="0; url=http://www.yourdomain.com/index.html">

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 15:34    Post subject: Re: mtpaint default canvas color  

Dingo wrote:
just a question. I like to have a white baground at mtpaint start (default canvas color is black), it is possible to change the default background from black to white?

Not without patching code and recompiling. Patch is attached.
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 16:06    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
could you just have a local file with an automatic redirect to a web page???

A good idea. But it is not for me to use it - I myself package mtPaint complete with docs.
Still, seeing that mtPaint released with Puppy 4.2 got miscompiled despite my advice, I now think I'll need to distribute an official .pet package like I'm distributing an official .deb . Given that .pet package seems to be just a Slackware-like .tgz with a changed extension, it should not be hard to do.
And now with upcoming mtPaint 3.31 already having missed Puppy 4.2 release, I'm in no hurry anymore, and have time to try this. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 16:39    Post subject:  

Quote:
wjaguar
A good idea. But it is not for me to use it - I myself package mtPaint complete with docs.
Still, seeing that mtPaint released with Puppy 4.2 got miscompiled despite my advice, I now think I'll need to distribute an official .pet package like I'm distributing an official .deb . Given that .pet package seems to be just a Slackware-like .tgz with a changed extension, it should not be hard to do.
And now with upcoming mtPaint 3.31 already having missed Puppy 4.2 release, I'm in no hurry anymore, and have time to try this. Smile

Hey wjaguar

A suggestion compile a slackware package
and or re post how you want it compiled correctly I'll happily compile it on slackware
since the new woof format allows for slackware.tgz

I can quickly make it a pet and upload it to puppylinux.ca
and I include the docs since they are usually small anyway

thanks for the white background patch too

looking forward to your new work
UPDATED just patched and recompiled but the background was still black on the start up screen



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PostPosted: Sat 28 Mar 2009, 17:32    Post subject:  

a possibility to open some Raw files Laughing
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