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Load up to 24 SFS files in Puppy 4.1.2
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Leon

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 17:03    Post_subject:  Load up to 24 SFS files in Puppy 4.1.2  

I'm using 18 SFS files for a week now without any noticeable performance decrease.

Instructions

1. Rename your initrd.gz to initrd.gz.bkp.

2. Download and replace the appropriate initrd.gz file for your kernel.

initrd.gz for puppy-4.1.2retro-k2.6.21.7

or

initrd.gz for puppy-4.1.2-k2.6.25.16

3. Change your menu.lst file by adding the 'max_loop' parameter to the end of the 'kernel' line.

Example:
kernel /vmlinuz max_loop=28

Your kernel line may look different depending on your configuration.

4. Reboot.

5. Open 'Menu>System>BootManager configure bootup' and add your SFS files. Note that the boot manager says no more than 3 but you can now add up to 24 of them.

6. Reboot.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 18:03    Post_subject: I'm impressed, it's awesome  

I really think this is one of Puppy's tiny leaps I like which do the significant difference from other Distro's. As soon as I launch my personal clone I try this one and follow after other users' thoughts.

Though some questions should be asked, adressed to community: isn't it cleaner and tidier to combine some sfs'es together by themes, say like kde+gnome_412.sfs, using sfs combiner (from Muppy) ?

Other is about being able to launch sfs from a folder one level down (one under root) as other puppy files do by default, enabling setting sfs'es to several named folders for convenience ??

Anyway, great job Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 18:03    Post_subject: I'm impressed, it's awesome  

I really think this is one of Puppy's tiny leaps I like which do the significant difference from other Distro's. As soon as I launch my personal clone I try this one and follow after other users' thoughts.

Though some questions should be asked, adressed to community: isn't it cleaner and tidier to combine some sfs'es together by themes, say like kde+gnome_412.sfs, using sfs combiner (from Muppy) ?

Other is about being able to launch sfs from a folder one level down (one under root) as other puppy files do by default, enabling setting sfs'es to several named folders for convenience ??

Anyway, great job Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 18:10    Post_subject: A correction to former post  

On 2nd. question I meant "one level under /mnt/dev_save" (refers to HD partition with pup_412.sfs and pup_save.2fs on it).
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 18:10    Post_subject: A correction to former post  

On 2nd. question I meant "one level under /mnt/dev_save" (refers to HD partition with pup_412.sfs and pup_save.2fs on it).
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 18:10    Post_subject: A correction to former post  

On 2nd. question I meant "one level under /mnt/dev_save" (refers to HD partition with pup_412.sfs and pup_save.2fs on it).
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2008, 13:42    Post_subject: Re: I'm impressed, it's awesome  

potchan wrote:
Though some questions should be asked, adressed to community: isn't it cleaner and tidier to combine some sfs'es together by themes, say like kde+gnome_412.sfs, using sfs combiner (from Muppy) ?

1. With separate SFS files it is possible to share only compatible ones between different Puppy versions.

2. This way a list of loaded SFS files in BootManager is also a simple list of their contents. Therefore, it is important to use well descriptive names for SFS files.

Example:
minefield-3.1b2.sl-i686-Puppy-4.1.2.sfs

What means that this SFS was tested and works in Puppy 4.1.2.

potchan wrote:
Other is about being able to launch sfs from a folder one level down (one under root) as other puppy files do by default, enabling setting sfs'es to several named folders for convenience ?

potchan wrote:
On 2nd. question I meant "one level under /mnt/dev_save" (refers to HD partition with pup_412.sfs and pup_save.2fs on it).

I agree.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Dec 2008, 13:51    Post_subject:  

I also think it is better to have many small sfs by default.
This makes it easier to upgrade them, and to share them in different versions of Puppy.
You then could use sfs-combiner to create "all in one" sfs in addition for people who prefer that.

I just started to create smaller sfs for UltraPup (inofficial name from Lobster) by wow:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=258396#258396
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 05:04    Post_subject: not understanding where to add extra parameter  

I have a frugal install of puppy 4.1.2 but don't have a menu.lst. Where do I add the
"kernel /vmlinuz max_loop=28" parameter? Do I need to create the file? I would appreciate any help you can give, thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 09:57    Post_subject: Re: not understanding where to add extra parameter  

tex wrote:
I have a frugal install of puppy 4.1.2 but don't have a menu.lst. Where do I add the
"kernel /vmlinuz max_loop=28" parameter? Do I need to create the file? I would appreciate any help you can give, thanks!

Some informations about frugal install:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16954
http://puppylinux.org/wiki/how-tos/general/frugalvsfullinstall
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 11:07    Post_subject:  

a related question: I often (in Puppy 3.01) mount on-fly (double clicking on) many sfs, I don't know if, in this way, exists a limit to sfs mountable on-fly

Note: I start my Puppy with layerfs=aufs parameter

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 05:41    Post_subject: using grub in a frugal usb flash  

Thanks, Leon. That cleared up alot of my questions. I am using a usb flash drive with syslinux and have never used grub. LOL, no wonder I couldn't find menu.lst.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 05:53    Post_subject:  

puppy 4.1.2 has dir2sfs command inside Very Happy
so i fastly build sfs for qt4 and gimp and use it now
i think that would be more interesting to have sfs for big apps ar combined apps with additional toolkits ( like qt or wxgtk) or games( like MU already did)

it will be better slax than slax Razz

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Feb 2009, 23:22    Post_subject:  

Personally, I would rather see a whole bunch of themed sfs's than the mess of "puplets" which are little more than dingo++ . Advantages include having a standard base puppy to correct and update, while allowing everyone to keep their own "puplet flavor". Also it lets me play in different "puplets" while keeping my saved filesystem between them.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Feb 2009, 03:01    Post_subject:  

Has this, will this be incorporated into Deep Thought? Cool
If using a lot of SFS does Puppy become slow? I have never found a noticeable slowdown or problem with 3 SFS - no matter what the size. I often want more SFS.
For example I may have devxx, Koffice and OpenOffice but often feel the need for a few more. This utility would save having to juggle and reboot . . . Smile

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