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Sit Heel Speak


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PostPosted: Fri 19 Dec 2008, 02:05    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
From /usr/share/applications/openoffice.org3-writer.desktop:
Quote:
Exec=openoffice.org3 -writer
Mark
Ah, I see, a new syntax. In the other (not yours) .sfs, it can also be started using
Code:
/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice -writer
I forget where I obtained, i.e. who produced, the /opt Open Office 3 .sfs. I think it's JB4x4's, from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34325.

@gymnart:

...so, use whichever commandline goes with whichever Open Office .sfs you are using. Mark's if openoffice.org3 is a file in /usr/bin, or mine if openofficeorg.3 is a folder in /opt.

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Dec 2008, 04:32    Post subject:  

The debs or rpms contain OO in /opt.
But there is are additional ones, for desktop integration.
I use: openoffice.org3.0-freedesktop-menus-3.0-9354.noarch.rpm
It generates the required files/symlinks in /usr.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Dec 2008, 12:31    Post subject:  

Thanks so much for your replies!

Puppy is done on my computer this way:
I boot from the CD and it reads my saved settings from my usb stick (/mnt/home/ - a 2 Gig stick) and the OpenOffice sfs is saved in /mnt/home/ also, right where my pupsave.sfs is. I don't know what kind of installation you would call that.

@Mu, do you have one that is just one language? (English) I don't have a lot of room now. BTW, are there dependencies? I might be missing some, I don't know.

I am going to try those other things and report my findings back to you guys!

P.S. I'm a woman Very Happy I know, it's hard to tell on these boards. I've come across that on Mozillazine forums too. Very Happy

So, I tried those commands and all I got was "directory not found" and "file not found" and "bad command or filename"

I have added an attachment of a screenshot of where the files are and the message I get when I double click on the OpenOffice file.

I have just tried getting the other OpenOffice version from that page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34325. But I did not rename it. Should I do that?
I added the recent OOo file to the bootmanager's start up and that made no difference.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Dec 2008, 13:59    Post subject:  

Here is an updated snapshot. I went to the .sfs file and clicked on that and then It said, "Success...", etc and a message that it was mounted and something about unmounting. But when I clicked on the resulting group of files and tried to start writer or the base, it would not start. Anyway, the snapshot shows you the message.
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Sit Heel Speak


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PostPosted: Fri 19 Dec 2008, 15:42    Post subject:  

Inability of Puppy 4.1n's BootManager to automount its .sfs add-ons if the partition they are resident on is formatted ext3, is a known bug, which to my knowledge has not yet been fixed. When you issue the command
Code:
mount
it should tell you whether the USB stick is ext3, fat16, fat32 (=vfat), or something else.

Another thing I notice is: that is a strange size for an Open Office 3 .sfs.

Mark's 5-language OO3 .sfs is 229,044,224 bytes.
JB4x4's (to which my advice applies) is about 158 MB.

Yours is...2,247,787 bytes??? Even if one digit is chopped and it's really 224 million and change...where did you get this .sfs file?

Aside from the strange size...

The reason why clicking the .desktop icon doesn't start swriter, is because even though you've mounted the .sfs you still have not merged its contents into your main Linux filesystem. What the writer .desktop entry does is, it attempts to call /usr/local/bin/swriter, which is a symlink to the "real" swriter.

You could create the symlinks (if it's JB4x4's OO3) by doing this:
Code:
cd /usr/local/bin
rm -a sbase
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/sbase sbase
rm -a scalc
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/scalc scalc
rm -a sdraw
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/sdraw sdraw
rm -a simpress
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/simpress simpress
rm -a smath
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/smath smath
rm -a soffice
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice soffice
rm -a swriter
ln -s /mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter swriter
Then, by clicking on the OO3 .sfs to mount it, clicking on the .desktop icons would work. At least, I think it would...

If the USB stick to which you have saved pup_save.2fs and the OpenOffice 3 .sfs is formatted ext3, try reformatting it to fat16 or vfat (fat32) and see if the OO3 .sfs can now be made to automount in Boot Manager.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2008, 14:28    Post subject:  

Hi All,
Not to confuse the matter, but recently I tried a third way of installing OO3.0 in my puppy412 frugal.

I downloaded the openoffice-3.0.0.sfs file and took a look inside. Noticing that the program was in the /opt folder I looked in puppy's opt folder and saw only /opt/samba which contained no symlinks. So I copied /opt to my /mnt/home, deleted the /opt from puppy and symlinked /mnt/home/opt to /opt.

I then copied the /usr and /root from openoffice-3.0.0.sfs to / and copied the /opt from openoffice-3.0.0.sfs to /mnt/home merging it with the one I had copied earlier. After the fixmenus command and restarting jwm everything worked, swriter, scalc, etc. This is essentially a harddrive install of openoffice using no extra ram or pup_save space.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2008, 15:30    Post subject:  

@gymnart
What is your answer to this suggestion?
In my opinion you should try to diagnose the normal procedure instead of loosing efforts in a non standard way of operating.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2008, 19:05    Post subject:  

Had tremendous difficulty just finding a link to a SFS for OO3
So including this
right click and save as or use the link with pwget (in Puppy)

http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/jb4x4/OpenOffice/OpenOffice-3.0.sfs
http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/jb4x4/OpenOffice/OpenOffice-3.0.sfs.md5.txt

OpenOffice-3.0.sfs - 159 M
md5sum - 2f8d4e99805a8f929d664c6f60a9d2f9 OpenOffice-3.0.sfs

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2008, 19:15    Post subject:  

Good to see Caneri's server is up again.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Dec 2008, 17:45    Post subject:  

Success at last (I think)
I finally got it to work. I mounted my USB stick and clicked on the OpenOffice .sfs and then looked around its directory and followed the /opt/openoffice.or3/program/ path. I then found soffice and sbase, etc, and tried clicking on one of those. It worked! This was the path:
/mnt/+mnt+home+OpenOffice-3.0.sfs/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice

I ended up copying everything from OpenOffice3.sfs folders that are on my usb stick into Puppy's /opt (which jrb mentioned, only had Samba in it) so now my new desktop start icon works. Obviously, I have less room on my stick now.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Dec 2008, 18:56    Post subject:  

gymnart wrote:
Obviously, I have less room on my stick now.
If it works from boot to boot, and I believe it will, you can move Openoffice30_412.sfs off the stick and regain most of the lost space. You can increase the size of your pup_save.2fs file by using Menu--> Utility -->Resize personal storage file.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Dec 2008, 19:04    Post subject:  

Gymnart.
You didn't follow my advice to diagnose thoroughly why the sfs file didn't load at boot.

Now you will be in trouble if you have to update OOo to another version, but it's your choice.

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Dec 2008, 19:58    Post subject:  

I'm going to make a .pet of the current version. I see enough of wanting one here. I'll post it up in a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Dec 2008, 14:44    Post subject:  

@ Béèm
I've been thinking about it and I'm wondering if it has anything to do with mounting the usb stick. When I boot into Puppy, I see one yellow icon for the stick (sdb1). I remember I used to see 2 icons with the stick, one yellow and one green, but not anymore.
I found that I have to manually mount the stick in order to get OpenOffice to work directly from the sfs file. Sometimes, it just "hangs" (does nothing but shows the splash screen.)

Now that I have installed it by having copied the contents of /opt from the sfs file to Puppy's /opt folder, OpenOffice opens quickly without trouble.

By the way, the stick is formatted as vfat.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Dec 2008, 14:47    Post subject:  

the english one is here:
http://puppyisos.org/isos/Muppy008.4c/English/Mini/
But it also is around 200 MB.
Password see my former message.

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