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Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 08:08
by 01micko
trio wrote:Holy crap! Just noticed Sigmund's current temperature, it's minus 6 celcius!!!!!!!!!! I'll be an ice cube if I am there!
That's nothing, it was -20 and less around Christmas


Hang on! Now let me see ... ice=diamonds=............bling

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 08:13
by trio
01micko wrote:
zigbert wrote:
Mick wrote:Slideshow in pupp_right is exactly 80 pixels left Confused I edited in the blabla/puppy_right/xli script to correct for me.
If your slow brain, - What about mine. - I don't even get what is wrong :?
When I use cluster, the slide show is exactly 80 pixels left of where it should be. It is printed so in "~/.pwidgets/profiles/Puppy___right/pwidgets-exec_xli"

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#Pwidgets
xli -geometry +1100+385 /root/.pwidgets/misc/frame.jpg &
sleep 1
xli -geometry +1107+392 -delay 5 -goto /root/.pwidgets/misc/scaledimages/01.png /root/.pwidgets/misc/scaledimages/*.png &
as compared to "~/.pwidgets/pwidgets-exec_xli"

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#Pwidgets
xli -geometry +1180+455 /root/.pwidgets/misc/frame.jpg &
sleep 0.2
xli -geometry +1187+462 -delay 5 -goto /root/.pwidgets/misc/scaledimages/01.png /root/.pwidgets/misc/scaledimages/*.png &
I should have been clearer. I am running live in RAM and deleted my ~/.pwidgets dir before installing 1.9-10.

Cheers
Look at your slideshow config ...OFFSET value right is 40?

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 08:18
by trio
01micko wrote: Hang on! Now let me see ... ice=diamonds=............bling
Yeah, you bling my eyes when you say bling bling by showing bling.., bling that! what the bling am I talking about

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 08:20
by 01micko
****yes****

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:20
by trio
Guys

don't laugh ok.. :) I think there's more to it than providing pwidgets for 4.2 users, or to be exact non-bling users, better to open it as independant project, Whodo's the one to decide for 4.2, but you Sigmund, you're the one to decide about pwidgets.., get my point?

Volunteers works for nothing...small or big the contribution is...if credit given then you should receive..if not? so what?

I'm going back to 4.1.2 ...and install pwidgets in there...at least it's a done deal (and only Barry alone is entitled of credits)...

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:28
by trio
Forget to say ..."BLING!!!!!

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:36
by 01micko
trio wrote:Guys

don't laugh ok.. :) I think there's more to it than providing pwidgets for 4.2 users, or to be exact non-bling users, better to open it as independant project, Whodo's the one to decide for 4.2, but you Sigmund, you're the one to decide about pwidgets.., get my point?

Volunteers works for nothing...small or big the contribution is...if credit given then you should receive..if not? so what?

I'm going back to 4.1.2 ...and install pwidgets in there...at least it's a done deal (and only Barry alone is entitled of credits)...
Hehe... I already got a repo of old versions.... for example...http://home.iprimus.com.au/michaelamadi ... -0.5-1.pet

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:41
by 01micko
I got my pw1.9-10 in my 412..... did you notice the different screenies? Exactly the same issues though. I have every mod needed, plus my gimp and all else is there, dev_x, woof files, old 486 stuff bla, bla, bla, blan, blin, bling!

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:47
by trio
01micko wrote:I got my pw1.9-10 in my 412..... did you notice the different screenies? Exactly the same issues though. I have every mod needed, plus my gimp and all else is there, dev_x, woof files, old 486 stuff bla, bla, bla, blan, blin, bling!
Yep, one with your wife on it, one without :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 09:54
by 01micko
trio wrote:
Yep, one with your wife on it, one without :lol: :lol:
Nah, that's not the ... hang on... um..... BLING

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 10:43
by zigbert
Hello Blingy Boys :D

Here is quick reference. Could may be put into the howto?

Creating a widget


A simple widget

Take a look at /root/.pwidgets/configs/ScrollText. Change the text at bottom of the file. Save new file with another name (keep it in /root/.pwidgets/configs/). Restart Pwidgets, and your new widget is available.

A more complex widget

1.) ENGINE
Pwidgets supports 4 widget engines, but 3 of them are hardcoded for a unique widget. Conky is what we have used to build most of our widgets.
- conky (base engine)
- xli (Slideshow)
- xwinwrap (Tv)
- xonclock (Analog-clock)

2.) CONFIG

A widget MUST have a config file in /root/.pwidgets/configs/ (See examples). Normally this is a ordinary conky config file. The config filename will be the widgets name. Content of this directory shows up in 'Available widgets' list in the main gui.

3.) SCRIPTS

If external code needs to be run to fetch new info for the widget, call up the widgets script in /root/.pwidgets/scripts/. The script should have the same name as the config file. It is also possible to run a specified script before reading config file. 'Downspeed' is an example of this. The script file has the same name as the config file with a -pre ending (Downspeed-pre), and is placed in /root/.pwidgets/scripts/.

4.) THEME

Your new widget will follow the global theme settings. If you want to override this you can hardcode colors in config files. Though, the best solution is to make a unique theme for your widget. Themes are placed in /root/.pwidgets/themes/THEME/main. The main file works for all widgets. If a unique theme is specified, this one overrides the main theme. The unique theme should have the same name as the config file (widget name).

5.) PLUGIN
If the new widget requires user configuration to works properly, a plugin may do the job. A plugin is a small gui that edits the widget config file. Plugins are stored in /root/.pwidgets/plugins/, and has the same name as the config file. It will show up automatically when user adds your widget from 'Available widgets' to 'Widget list'. After user input, let the plugin execute:
. /usr/local/pwidgets/locals/english
. /usr/local/pwidgets/func -apply
fixwidgets

This builds the chosen widget tree including the changed info from this plugin.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 10:55
by WhoDo
trio wrote:I've mistakenly lured to answer about pwidgets in 4.2 rc2 thread...No..no more...enough of that...
Enough indeed! Please accept my apology for the treatment you received in trying to be helpful, and read my directive in the RC2 Bugs & Fixes thread about how I expect things to proceed from this point forward.

Again, my apologies to you trio. :oops:

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:05
by tasmod
WhoDo, haven't been able to access site and read everything.

But if you have asked for decorum on rc2 thread, then I applaud you.

ttuuxxs opinions are just that, but no insults required. I'm sticking here even though I said i would retreat.

Rob

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:07
by 01micko
zigbert wrote:Hello Blingy Boys :D
Only 10 minus this morning. Don't forget your gloves when arriving ValÄmoen.

Here is quick reference. Could may be put into the howto?

Creating a widget


A simple widget

Take a look at /root/.pwidgets/configs/Puppylinux. Change the text at bottom of the file. Save new file with another name (keep it in /root/.pwidgets/configs/). Restart Pwidgets, and your new widget is available.

A more complex widget


1.) ENGINE
Pwidgets supports 4 widget engines. When you want to create a new widget, the first point is to define which engine to use.
- conky (Most common)
- xli (Slideshow)
- xwinwrap (Tv)
- xonclock (Analog-clock)

2.) CONFIG

A widget MUST have a config file in /root/.pwidgets/configs/ (See examples). The config filename will be the widgets name. Content of this directory shows up in 'Available widgets' list in the main gui.

3.) SCRIPTS

If external code needs to be run to fetch new info for the widget, call up the widgets script in /root/.pwidgets/scripts/. The script should have the same name as the config file. It is also possible to run a specified script before reading config file. 'Downspeed' is an example of this. The script file has the same name as the config file with a -pre ending (Downspeed-pre), and is placed in /root/.pwidgets/scripts/.

4.) THEME

Your new widget will follow the global theme settings. If you want to override this you can hardcode colors in config files. Though, the best solution is to make a unique theme for your widget. Themes are placed in /root/.pwidgets/themes/THEME/main. The main file works for all widgets. If a unique theme is specified, this one overrides the main theme. The unique theme should have the same name as the config file (widget name).

5.) PLUGIN
If the new widget requires user configuration to works properly, a plugin may do the job. A plugin is a small gui that edits the widget config file. Plugins are stored in /root/.pwidgets/plugins/, and has the same name as the config file. It will show up automatically when user adds your widget from 'Available widgets' to 'Widget list'. After user input, let the plugin execute:
. /usr/local/pwidgets/locals/english
. /usr/local/pwidgets/func -apply
fixwidgets

This builds the chosen widget tree including the changed info from this plugin.
Well HOWTO is my department so I can do, will simplify to the best of my ability.

Cheers

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:34
by tasmod
Zigbert,

just doing a poll. Hope this is right 'Hvor gamle er du'

If not blame online translators :lol:

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:36
by WhoDo
tasmod wrote:... if you have asked for decorum on rc2 thread, then I applaud you.
I did a fraction more than just "ask", Rob. I don't know if it will do any good, but I couldn't let it roll through any longer the way it was going. I want you, Zigbert, trio and 01micko to know that, whatever else is said by the vocal minority around here, I appreciate all the effort you guys have put into the 4.2 project and it WILL be reflected in the product I release.

Sometimes members of the Puppy forum community forget that there are way more users of Puppy than the ones who post here regularly. One such user has only posted 7 times since 2005, and another was recently prompted to make only his second post since he started using Puppy 2.xx some time back. There are many more that have never posted and one of those has recently written the best review of Puppy's capabilities I have yet seen. We really are only the very tip of the iceberg here (analogy especially for Sigmund :P ).

That should give you guys heart; to know that your hard work will NOT go unrecognised and nor will the harmony and support you share in the Pwidgets team. Thank you all for that.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:43
by tasmod
Thanks WhoDo, much appreciated.

The 'fun' was going out of it for us and I'm enjoying it so much just now.

Zigberts contributions when I look thru Puppy are very numerous and not to be derided. I think he writes succinct code.

In the 'old' days when ram was precious you were taught to do things miserly. I once managed to fit a simple word processor and printer routine in 5k. Even then I was told it was too flashy :lol:

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:44
by 01micko
WhoDo wrote:
tasmod wrote:... if you have asked for decorum on rc2 thread, then I applaud you.
I did a fraction more than just "ask", Rob. I don't know if it will do any good, but I couldn't let it roll through any longer the way it was going. I want you, Zigbert, trio and 01micko to know that, whatever else is said by the vocal minority around here, I appreciate all the effort you guys have put into the 4.2 project and it WILL be reflected in the product I release.

Sometimes members of the Puppy forum community forget that there are way more users of Puppy than the ones who post here regularly. One such user has only posted 7 times since 2005, and another was recently prompted to make only his second post since he started using Puppy 2.xx some time back. There are many more that have never posted and one of those has recently written the best review of Puppy's capabilities I have yet seen. We really are only the very tip of the iceberg here (analogy especially for Sigmund :P ).

That should give you guys heart; to know that your hard work will NOT go unrecognised and nor will the harmony and support you share in the Pwidgets team. Thank you all for that.
TY for your support too, WhoDo 8)

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:56
by trio
Whodo

You're a big sport! You don't even have to apologize for what others did. !But anyway, my sincere thanks and off course all accepted. We stop it here, don't go further or I'll cry...

Ps: what you just did on the 4.2 thread is wise...very wise..

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:00
by WhoDo
tasmod wrote:In the 'old' days when ram was precious you were taught to do things miserly. I once managed to fit a simple word processor and printer routine in 5k. Even then I was told it was too flashy :lol:
Yes, I remember. I learned serious programming in VAXBasic using a VT100 terminal and a maximum of 32k of space for both compiler and program code. We considered ourselves "spoiled" at having so much room to work when the entire main frame hard drive was only 5Mb. :roll: