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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3052 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Wed 12 Nov 2008, 22:33 Post subject:
We can do better than this........... Subject description: Too many posts unanswered |
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Over 5000 people got no response at all...
Thats terrible......This is an important area...
Puppy`s are supposed to be friendly....
I only respond to the ones I can help, hoping that by leaving the rest unanswered, they will be found easier...
Maybe unanswered posts should be made sticky in their respective threads, or something...IDK, but this isnt cool..
I`d like to think we have,
The friendliest forum in Linux....
I can think of 5000 people who might disagree....
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KF6SNJ
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 698 Location: Distressed States of Amerika
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 00:05 Post subject:
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How did you come up with this? I have never had a post that went unanswered. Sometimes the answer is found in a different thread in a different section of the forum. I know that may seem contradictory to your findings, but that has been my experience.
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3052 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 00:38 Post subject:
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Hello,
Its a screenshot of the "view unanswered posts" link on the right side of the "Forum index" page...
It grows by about 10/20 a day...
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 02:49 Post subject:
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I try to answer posts that I can but I only answer it in one of their posts. Many people post the same question in several sections several times. When I notice this I ask them to post a link to the one I respond to in a PM and to annotate it with [solved]
Many of these PMs get unanswered so I assume they were just distro-hopping and moved on (hopefully temporarily)
Other posts are just hey look at this - no response necessary.
Sometimes people just have an obscure (usually hardware specific) problem that I just have no clue how to help them.
And still other posts are from AJ (aka AlienJeff)- j/k AJ
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Lobster
Official Crustacean

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 15109 Location: Paradox Realm
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 03:53 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Over 5000 people got no response at all... |
Thanks to John Murga and Flash, the forum is diverse and dynamic.
Spammers, trolls and those posting incomprehensibly, are often ignored.
Some may be posting in other languages with limited help available.
It is worth remembering that some people are new, 'Linux bewildered' or disabled by infirmity, using Windows, or as in my case, lack of neurons.
Be kind. Be patient. Answer the same questions again.
I am here because of the extensive help from Barry and GuestToo and others who treated me with respect and kindness.
Could we do more as Jay (puppyluvr) suggests?
Always.
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7015 Location: qld
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 04:12 Post subject:
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Maybe there could be a sticky in the beginners section named 'first post' or some such. Certain rules could be outlined but a guarantee given that the post will be answered. Might save some clutter.
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koolie
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 556
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 06:52 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | I can think of 5000 people who might disagree.... |
Give them all a refund, I say, and a free 12-month subscription to the forum.
Cost be damned.
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Flash
Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9838 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 09:32 Post subject:
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The forum has a "trash can" where spam and other undesirable posts are put rather than deleting them. I'm guessing most of the unanswered posts will be found there.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 11:31 Post subject:
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I have the same feeling, altho I won't say 5000, that more and more posts are unanswered. Very often the more technical ones.
And I am afraid the people who have the knowledge to answer are busy with other (maybe personal) thing, or too busy discussing the 4.2 or 5.0 or developing other nice stuff.
Those who answer regularly maybe able to do so up to a certain point and then I see nobody more knowledgeable is taking over.
Well what happens here it the lack of organization. Everybody is willing and is trying to help but the technical knowledge is very variable, some questions remain unanswered.
Another point is, that I don't know if there are people in development analyzing the post to see which subjects comes around frequently in order to adapt the product. I know the bug threads are looked upon, but I don't think it's done for the other forums.
A last point which affects the quality of the support is the working of the forum. If one tries to answer as quickly as possible and you have to sit for minutes looking at your screen before there is an answer back, it's deterring.
I made several remarks already, but these posts stay unanswered as well.
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bugman

Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2131 Location: buffalo commons
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 12:23 Post subject:
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2,836 of those are by shroomy bee
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puppyluvr

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 3052 Location: Chickasha Oklahoma
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 13:16 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | 2,836 of those are by shroomy bee |
LMAO
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alienjeff

Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 2290 Location: Winsted, CT - USA
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 13:16 Post subject:
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@bugman
That still leaves a lot of, ahem ... other unanswered posts.
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Fossil
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 431 Location: Gloucestershire, UK.
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Posted: Thu 13 Nov 2008, 18:42 Post subject:
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Ghosts in the machine?
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Aitch

Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK
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Posted: Thu 20 Nov 2008, 14:25 Post subject:
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One has to also account for the 'information only' type announcements, which need no answer
examples
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35732
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35731
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35771
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35728
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35727
& the jokes
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35788
nice one, Chris
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35763
& 'Solved'
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35770
Nice tip, disciple
so maybe not so many problems, but I agree with Jay, in principle, though reversing the search gives a bit of insight, too
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/search.php?ppage=30&search_id=unanswered&start=5100
The first 3 are BarryK c2005
Bugman, I shouldn't laugh but.....
Couldn't find any ghosts though, Fossil, perhaps a seance?
Aitch
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jrb

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 972 Location: Smithers, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun 23 Nov 2008, 18:34 Post subject:
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Some of those unanswered posts are mine, 2 or 3. They are technical questions and I assumed nobody had a solution. (approaching perfection, but still not perfect)
The questions that have been answered have been done so with enthusiasm and expertise (10 out of 10)
Thanks puppyluvr for pointing out that "View unanswered posts" link. I try to respond to posts where I have something to offer. Checking this link will make it that much easier to return something to the community.
Thanks again to anyone who has given help to me or anyone else. Its nice to know there are good people out there.
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