NOP 4.1 Released

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seeker · #106 Post by **seeker** » Thu 25 Dec 2008, 05:38

Gray,

Just when I thought Puppy 412 retro with icewm was for sure my everyday version of Puppy, I had to go and try NOP 4.12. I had never tried Xfce until now. This is really nice! I'm posting this from a frugal install of it.

FYI, I found a small bug that makes Thunar hang when clicking a sfs or iso to mount, and Thunar has to be killed with the task manager or reboot to get it to work properly again. It's easy to fix, just comment or remove the code "rox -D $MntPt" at lines 74 and 79 in /usr/sbin/filemnt.

Many thanks for creating this Puppy!

Max Headroom · #107 Post by **Max Headroom** » Thu 25 Dec 2008, 07:53

Beg Y'r Pardon People, I Forgot 2 Mention I've Successfully Got Compiz-Fusion Working, ReMastered on2 CD in Fact

& that is not available 2 Me w/ XFCE, I didn't realise that was a Function o' the Windo' Manager, So I've Scouted around Compiz-Fusion, But Still Can't find the Place!?!

HaMMeR · #108 Post by **HaMMeR** » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 18:28

Grey,
Thanks for a great Puplet. I am a newb and had tried about a dozen puplets when I found your NOP and BoxPup. I like the conky, clock etc on BoxPup but love the feel of NOP. I think I will learn the ropes a bit & try to get those items over into NOP and have one fantastic puplet. I have one problem which is actually not a puplet issue but a puppy issue in general. The details are in my post here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 5&start=30
Don't know if there is any ideas you or anyone else reading this may have but any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for a very user friendly for newb puplet.

DaveS · #109 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 20:19

HaMMer........ if you follow the instructions I posted here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 437#260437 you can get Conky running just fine on NOP. Changing the permission of the start up script is a little different using the Thunar file manager in NOP. Right click on the file and select 'properties'. On the permissions tab, select 'allow to run as program'
Also, NOP does not seem to need the mod to the .xinitrc file. Good Luck. It works just fine on my system.

HaMMeR · #110 Post by **HaMMeR** » Sat 27 Dec 2008, 00:07

DaveS,
Thanks for the help. Worked like a charm.

DaveS · #111 Post by **DaveS** » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 07:22

Hi Gray. I have a most odd problem with NOP 4.1. Basically, I cannot re-use a pup_save file with a fresh installation. I have NOP installed as a hard drive Frugal, and a USB Frugal. If I run from the live CD, I would expect NOP to find the hard drive save file, which it does, and use it, which it also does, thus allowing me to effectively run 'my' set up from the live CD, BUT, when the desktop loads, even though it looks the same, there is a big difference. The menu button either appears and is disabled, or does not appear at all. Desktop icons such as drives etc, usually appear briefly, then are gone.
The launchbars are present, correctly configured, and work just fine. This effectively makes it impossible to transfer my set-up from one pc/boot device to another. Any ideas please?

Henry · #112 Post by **Henry** » Thu 01 Jan 2009, 15:16

When I select print from Mousepad, Xfprint appears as in the screenshot. It never saves settings, although I choose that. So I always have to reselect my laserjet default printer. An unnecesary annoyance I guess.

I use Nop 4.1.2. but this problem was around before that.

Max Headroom · #113 Post by **Max Headroom** » Mon 05 Jan 2009, 09:41

Gray Please How Do I Update w/ the Delta File from 4.1 R1 > 4.1.2 Thanx

humbug · #114 Post by **humbug** » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 17:04

grey,
Just a big Thanks for NOP!

I am a newb to Linux and Puppy but NOP is what will make me stick with Puppy. I've used Opera since its shareware days and XFCE looks and works great so far.

Again, thanks!

Steve

magerlab · #115 Post by **magerlab** » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 17:29

to use xdelta see this
http://puppylinux.org/wiki/archives/old ... lse/xdelta

Max Headroom · #116 Post by **Max Headroom** » Tue 06 Jan 2009, 20:46

Beg Y'r Pardon magerlab, But I Forget 2 Mention this is a Full install already, Not .iso File, How does this work in my case? Anybody Please!

Henry · #117 Post by **Henry** » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 05:16

I've been using Xfburn but even though I have the box ticked for "show hidden files," it does neither show nor burn them.

Comments, please?

gizmo · #118 Post by **gizmo** » Tue 27 Jan 2009, 05:37

I am only a few days into trying puppy linux. I would prefer Opera and would probably prefer Open Office, so it sounds like I should change to NOP.
A couple of questions:

1. as I am already using Puppy Linux 4.1.2 booting from CD and saving to hard drive, will what is already saved on the hard drive (pupsave file??) have any conflict with starting over with NOP 4.1.2?

2. I have noticed that NOP is designed to run from USB or from HD install, does that mean I can't configure it to boot from CD? I have a Compaq Presario 1200 laptop which has Windows ME, I am too new to Linux to feel comfortable doing anything to upset the Windows already on the hard drive, and I'm not sure if this computer can boot from a USB stick. (Does anyone know or how can I find out?)

What are the hardware requirements for NOP? (I have 192 Mb ram which is the max this computer can take.)

Thanks for your suggestions.

Max Headroom · #119 Post by **Max Headroom** » Wed 28 Jan 2009, 01:02

Our Naughty 7 Yea' Old Boy has Just Bought a PC Game using M' Wifes Online Auction Account, Unauthorized o' Course! I have Created an eNcrypted Pup_Save File, But it Never asks 4 th' Password when We Boot from th' Hard D' Drive

( But Does if I Boot from Any Live Puppy Disk

) ( This is a Full install )

Max Headroom · #120 Post by **Max Headroom** » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 07:30

Seems Searching This Forum & Googling Returns Results Relative 2 Original Puppy, But I Prefer Opera & XFCE, besides I've got Compiz-Fusion Working so I'm Reluctant 2 Go back!...

Henry · #121 Post by **Henry** » Sat 07 Feb 2009, 05:36

This is well known to us puppy veterans, but I reckon not all newcomers. I dealt with this before a couple of times, most recently in
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 6&start=15

but it's easy to overlook, especially in xfce where it seems such an easy, natural thing to do. The copy of pup_save may be corrupted, perhaps in a small, easily overlooked way. For example in my Nops, I set the Xfce file manager to single click and detail view. If I copy that pup_save to backup while running and restore it those options are reset todouble click and icon view, and changing them back is not saved! I mention this as a concrete, reproducible, example that proves the rule.

Henry · #122 Post by **Henry** » Sat 07 Feb 2009, 06:06

Hi, gray, if you're monitoring this, I trust you are and are well, and hope that you are quietly continuing your good Nop work.

As you have noticed, from time to time I use this place to mention minor things noted as I use always the latest Nop daily for production activity. I can well understand your preference to lie low from these minor forum issues as you (hopefully) continue to maintain and improve Nop.

In the past you have pleasantly surprised us with new versions following Barry's new puppy versions. Maybe it's different now that he's pursuing Woof;-) ? He may adopt Xfce also, and perhaps we will end up with great package handling. Will this lend itself to a new and better Nop? Fine, but I hope not too different a Nop, and specifically one that will upgrade existing Nop configurations. Another clean, tested, usable. and business-like puppy.

Best wishes, Henry

PS: Some thoughts. Keep Abiword and Gnumeric in a separate SFS as now. Then business users have a choice between them and the OpenOffice sfs. Of course keep Opera. But its weird email system is not good for business use, especially when they keep changing the format - not good for archiving email. I made every effort to like it. Fortunately it's small and OK for casual use. Sylpheed is excellent and understandable.
It can use gnupg, where Opera for some strange reason cannot. With Operamail I had to manually decrypt our credit card orders, but I can now, with Sylpheed compiled to include gnupg (MU has done such a pet) decrypt such inline gnupg by defining an "action" in Sylpheed.

JMX · #123 Post by **JMX** » Thu 12 Feb 2009, 20:12

gray,

After a few weeks of usage I have found the NOP 4.1.2 remaster to be outstanding for this newbie.

The right-click pop-up menu in NOP is superior to any other distro I have tried. Everything that I use so frequently is just a mouse click away. "Open Terminal Here", "Create Folder/Document Here", "Open with xarchive (or gunzip)", etc. Not 3 or 4 clicks deep, but right in front of me. And the ability to make or change system wide file associations on the fly with just a couple of clicks is a real time saver.

And of course the expanding menu bar at the top always gives me instant access to common utilites no matter what I am doing. I use that little menu bar all the time. This whole interface is so nice, so complete, and so uncluttered.

I am the beneficiary of some very well thought out work. It is laid out so logically and so intuitively that I do not even need a manual. Thanks gray.

My first venture is to make a wireless bundle that includes Wireshark, Kismet, Airoscript, etc in a single sfs file. Using NOP as my master template has made this into a very pleasant and rewarding experience.

tom4jesus · #124 Post by **tom4jesus** » Sun 15 Feb 2009, 00:16

Lobster wrote: I had forgotten that Gray is more than able to create a version of Puppy.
Maybe Puppy 4.3?

I will second that!
Can I say wow, fantastic!
I am just trying Nop this past week for the first time.

Coming from using Archlinux and being used to xfce4 that I used on that.
I had really missed some of the features in xfce4 and I have to say Gray that you have done a great job of stripping it down and "pupisizing" it.
Everything in it works great and is extremely well integrated into Puppy.

I did see in Barry's blog he is enjoying xfce4 too, and it would make a great DE for a new breed of Puppy.

Thanks, I have been use NOP as my main puppy since finding it.

Tom

***EDIT
I did a little screen shot to show how I borrowed the logo from the puppy jumping off page to put in my start menu.

cat · #125 Post by **cat** » Wed 25 Feb 2009, 12:51

Hi everyone!

I'm having a serious problem with File-opening in Opera on NOP that comes up regularly after some time of use (basically on all versions I used, now the most recent one).
When I try to open a file in Opera via file->open or when I try to upload a file via a webform Thunar opens but then crashes, with Opera using all available CPU ressources. Closing the Thunar window is impossible, the only thing that works to shutdown opera is killing the opera process.

I guess this problem is independent of the used hardware as I experienced this on two different Notebooks.

Does anyone else have this problem or maybe even a solution or an idea about what might cause this? I haven't found anything by searching yet, sorry if I missed anything.

I really appreciate NOP, especially because it makes my Linuxophobic girlfriend use Linux, but I'm growing tired of reinstalling it every so often, and with her moving out shortly it might become a dead-end for her linux experience.
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