NOP 4.1 Released

[DaveS]

also, what is the small bar at the top of the monitor called? very handy, but i'd like to swap Xfce panel to the top and put the small auto-hiding bar on bottom.

thanks for any help.

menu>settings>settings manager>panel will allow you to customise these

[techtype]

Try

http://download.tuxfamily.org/nop

.

Thank you very much

Bye,
Sérgio

@Grey, your pup is great. Your directory referred to above does not have goffice1_400.sfs?? Could you put it up?

Edit: That was fast, I see that you did it!!! Thanks!!

[laika]

menu>settings>settings manager>panel will allow you to customise these

thanks, DaveS! i didn't realize the small bar was part of Xfce.

[Caneri]

NOP is available here
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/NOP/


Eric

[laika]

still can't get online with NOP 4.1. no matter which method of configuration - Roaring Penguin; pppoe-setup; pppoeconf - whatever, i appear connected, but Opera or ftp behave otherwise. really odd.

please help!

[DaveS]

still can't get online with NOP 4.1. no matter which method of configuration - Roaring Penguin; pppoe-setup; pppoeconf - whatever, i appear connected, but Opera or ftp behave otherwise. really odd.

please help!

Wireless or cable?

[laika]

Wireless or cable?

thanks for your interest, DaveS!

my connection is DSL over telephone landline (through modem, of course). i been using live distros exclusively for months, so connecting through pppoe-setup or pppoeconf is something i do more often than most PC users (i'm on Puppy 2.14r as i type this). i can't imagine what's wrong - i thought permissions at first, but none of the other NOP users seems to have a problem with that... a mystery.

[seeker]

Henry,

Re printing not working in wine. Look in /usr/bin for the symlink lpr. Check the properties and see if it's a symlink to lpr-cups. On my Puppy I had lpr_cups, but not lpr-cups. I didn't want to rename anything for fear of breaking something else so I copied lpr_cups as lpr-cups and printing in wine started working. This might have something to do with other apps not printing too.

Seeker

[Henry]

Henry,

Re printing not working in wine. Look in /usr/bin for the symlink lpr. Check the properties and see if it's a symlink to lpr-cups. On my Puppy I had lpr_cups, but not lpr-cups. I didn't want to rename anything for fear of breaking something else so I copied lpr_cups as lpr-cups and printing in wine started working. This might have something to do with other apps not printing too.

Seeker

I can only say THANK YOU! (Well, also I'm impressed ) That seems to have made CUPS work as anticipated.

Appreciatively,
Henry

[laika]

Update on connection problem:

i copied a pppoe.conf file from a working connection on Puppy 2.14r to my NOP-4.1, but still no joy. then i noticed that /etc/resolv.conf on NOP was a broken link. i deleted /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and and then some kind of magic happened when i started a connection and i'm connected now, happily typing this on NOP-4.1 with Opera.

i think maybe i wasn't getting DNS numbers automatically from my provider despite choosing "server" option in pppoe-setup. i'm not quite sure which step fixed my problem.

[magerlab]

i have problem with menus when i translated xfce4 to russian( took mo. fliles from deb)
aplication names are translated but the menu items are not
the menu is in english still

[Henry]

LAST EDIT
"* User-contributed printer which is not in the Foomatic packages yet. The data ia not yet verified and/or proofread. The printer entry can be edited by everyone."

http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cg ... Canon-i560
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gray and others,

Nop 4.1.1 prints correctly to my old HP Laserjet 2100.

But, when it prints to my Canon i560 inkjet the color is unusable, from light washed out to high contrast mixed up colors. I have tried adjusting the values, consulting /etc/cups/ppd/Inkjet.ppd with no success. (This printer works perfectly in windows.)

I must have done something wrong in setting up the printer in cups, but I wondered if it might be related to the upgrade to 4.1.1, as apparently two other things were -absvolume (found a good workaround), and failure to print from all wine programs (fixed by changing lpr_cups to lpr-cups in /usr/bin).

EDIT- another test and conclusion -

I installed (I thought) a different inkjet, a Canon iP1600, and tried to print to it exactly as before. The light blinked but it did not print. The free space went down but, in the case of this non-working printer it stayed down, dropping an incremental 2M for each attempt to print. This is exactly the same thing I had observed with the first i560 printer before I finally got it to print (although with bad color). After several unsuccessful attempts the free memory was down by 20M or so.

Also as before, this lost free memory could not be regained by rebooting, even with pfix=fsck, only by restoring a backup! Everything appears to be stable and reproducible, but this unexpected behaviour made me a little nervous.

So probably I had simply not got the inkjet properly installed and configured until later. With the printer working the free mem is now solid! It shows I know little about cups (except that it is not foolproof or about color management in puppy. Suggestions welcome. Sorry for any unwarranted concern or confusion.

[Henry]

Here's a good repository:

http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/pupp ... ackages-4/
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I wrote:

Can someone help me locate a copy of
gtk+-2.12.1-4cups1123.pet (1.4M) ?

Thanks

[Henry]

Good evening, gray and others,

Just finished a series of testing and polishing my Nop. When I first started using puppy it did not always upgrade successfully. (That was also back when one had to be careful not to click in the middle of Opera's "O" or it wouldn't go.) That was nearly two and a half years ago. Since then I have used the same evolving personal file through several puppies and every known Nop version. It is very clean, convenient, and stable. I currently have no known problems.

I just did a test upgrade to Dingo 4.1.2. No problem. But a spartan Nop is what I prefer as a base, with Xfce. I do hope you will continue to support and develop it. There's ample hobbyist activity in puppy, which is good and fertile, but we need a safe and serious version like Nop for serious users - like me.

P.S. I don't have a single whiteout file

Henry

[Henry]

The light blinked but it did not print. The free space went down but, in the case of this non-working printer it stayed down, dropping an incremental 2M for each attempt to print. This is exactly the same thing I had observed with the first i560 printer before I finally got it to print (although with bad color). After several unsuccessful attempts the free memory was down by 20M or so.

Also as before, this lost free memory could not be regained by rebooting, even with pfix=fsck, only by restoring a backup! Everything appears to be stable and reproducible, but this unexpected behaviour made me a little nervous.

Now I see that documents that failed to print, as well as extraneous ppd files ended up in /var/spool/cups/tmp. There were 15.7M of them there (the size of my frustration). Deleting them gave a similar increase to my free space.

[Max Headroom]

Because I was having issues w/ Compiz-Fusion Features I'd done in a handfull Batch that I couldn't undo ( which I kNo' is either Risky or id10tic, specifically & mainly Locking Windo's on the Desktop & Losing Wobbly Windo's ) plus My Wife was Constantly Conplaining 'bout Firefox Bugs & Crashing etc ( We Separated Our BookMarks this way I use Opera, she Firefox ), so I decided 2 Update 2 the Lastest Dingo 4.1.2 ( Altho Not B4 Trying G_Pup-1.0, Based on Dingo 4.1.2, But Stripped Down to 59 Mb & w/ SMP eNabled, but Alas in Vain ).
So After Doing a Full install o' Dingo 4.1.2 & installing Xfce.Pet, Restarted X, Typed xwin xfce4Dingo ( or Simila' it was After MidNite & I was Tired ). Now I've Lost All the Desktop icons, if I Go 2 Menu > FileSystem > PMount I can mnt Any Drive or Partition, But No Windo's Open & I Can't Access M' Files! Any Suggestions Welcome Please.

[Henry]

While, as I said, Nop 4.1.1 is nearly perfect, printing to my color inkjet i560 is still not. This I guessed might be attributed to the cups ppd being unofficial and unproofed.

seeker had helped me get printing working with the discovery and correction of a broken link. Now I note there is another here. Can anyone shed light on this please?

Code: Select all

/usr/share/cups/model/foomatic-ppds

Thanks

[gray]

NOP has been updated to 4.1.2 standard (bug fixes).
Also upgraded Opera to 9.63

Merry Christmas

[Henry]

Merry Christmas and thanks to you, gray,

The new Nop upgraded very smoothly, except for one thing.

I have been using wine very satisfactorily through the last two Nop versions with wine-1.0-rc4-i686_410.sfs. The boot manager configuration now does not see it whether or not I rename it with 412.sfs.

EDIT -
Everything is fine now! Before doing the upgrade I had renamed wine to . . .412.sfs, which was not found. (No, no typing error.)

So I wiped the upgrade and repeated it after renaming wine back to . . .410.sfs. It worked Well, I guess it was looking for what I had used before, but I couldn't simply put it back into the home folder, not picked up. Had to redo the upgrade with what I had used before.

Henry

[Olive08]

First I would like to say a big thanks to gray for his fine work!

Next, following a string of suggestions redirecting me from forum to forum and finally to this thread, I will post an old question of mine here hoping for a successful resolution. I am using NOP 4.1 installed in a USB flash drive. Recently I installed the official Firefox 2.0.0.7 package (because Opera refused to recognize links in some websites as such prefering to treat them as plain text instead). The entry "Firefox web browser" did appear under Menu --> Internet (with no icon in front of it). My question is how to add an icon for Firefox in the menu that drops down at the top of the screen.

In addition, since I saw here that NOP has been updated, where can I get the update from and how can I apply it to my NOP 4.1 installation without having to start from scratch? Would the updated version of Opera solve the problem mentioned above, i.e., treat all links as such?