Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

ttuuxxx · Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 08:28 Post subject:

I compiled the latest Pidgin with SSL and Working MSN, would be good for the repo but not that default, due to the 3.8MB pet in size.
ttuuxxx

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/programs/internet/pidgin-2.5.3-i386.pet
Also I compiled the automake and autoconfig download below, they are full dev+files for the compiler, I made them into tar.gz for easy extraction, no need as pets due to the fact that they need to be installed to the devx compiler Smile

hope that helps a bit
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx · Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 12:00 Post subject:

here's a picture of Seamonkey 1.1.11 with the Mostly Crystal theme installed as default theme, I removed the original Seamonkey theme and replaced it saving space.
Then I hacked the code a bit and added a user quick launch bar, and added the home button, Then I added my 5 extra searches from FirePup , added a printer quick launch and this is what it looks like.
ttuuxxx

WhoDo · Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 15:14 Post subject:

ttuuxxx · Posted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 17:02 Post subject:

aragon · Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 1690 Location: Germany

attached find an updated intltool-package for devx.

cheers
aragon

edoc · Posted: Thu 15 Jan 2009, 22:35 Post subject:

showdownmetal · Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 19

i didnt read all of this, but is there gonna be something like rosegarden or nted or some sort of music composition/production program included?

IM BEGGING YOU!! PLEASE MAKE PUPPY MORE USEFULL FOR ME!!!!! AHHHHH

but seriously... i would love you guys forever.

hillside · Posted: Sat 07 Mar 2009, 00:16 Post subject:

Are you looking for something like Musescore? You can find a .pet for it here.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=34321

raffy · Joined: 25 May 2005 Posts: 4636 Location: Manila

Have you searched here for "music and puplet"?

A puplet is a tweaked Puppy for catering to special groups/interests.

zenfunk · Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 221

Although I only have a coulpe of posts in this forum I'm a puppy user since the early 2.something series and a bigtime lurker here.
My two cents on the future of puppy.
First of all thanks to everybody who is involved in this for this fast and small distro. These are the two big upsides of puppy- fast and small.

Puppys speed and bootup times are fantastic, the system itself is responding better than anything, even on my PII 300 mHz 128 MB ram.

Nevertheless I don't see why it is so important to stick to such really small distro sizes, I really don't care if my distro is 450 MB or 80 MB. The smallest harddrives that still seem to be working to this day are in the 500 MB range- so you could get an even bigger puppy to work anyways. The difference for the usual end user are a couple of mp3 or half a movie less on your harddrive- no biggie. Ok, it might be due to the unique way puppy runs from ram (or from swap- if you are on a really low end machine), but nevertheless, if you are on such low ram machines, you would probably use a full hd install anyways.
Long story short, although smaller is preferable, I really don't see why you shouldn't have Icewm or Firefox in your base distro when many folks seem to install it afterwards anyways- the cost is about 15 to 20 MB- who really cares... Wink

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Now the negatives. I'm sure they have been adressed elsewhere and I want to make clear that this is not a rant, it's just my point of view which I give so somebody can advance puppy.
The main reasons I don't run puppy on my main machine are the inconsistency between releases, packages not compatible between major releases, no real updates of packages, no automatic resolving of all the dependencies- do you get it?- you desperately need a good package manager.
One of the big advantages of the mayor distributions are the online repos. Why can't puppy have something like that? Its sooo convenient to just hit the add- remove button, select your desired program and click install. With dotpets and dotpups its like going back to windowsland and googling for setup.exes and whatnot.
Although I can see how the newer package manager in puppy tries to deal with the issue, and it has come a long way, I can't see the package manager as tightly integrated into the system like lets say apt-get. Automated kernel updates seem like out of the question right now.

The repos found in the package manager right now also seem very small. This I think is largely due to the inconsistent releases- you seem to have to repackage everything from release to release. Its like reinventing the wheel over and over again.

Just my two cents - and please don't get me wrong- his is not a rant but just my observations in about two years of puppy use.
Go puppy and all the best,

Christian

cthisbear · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2943 Location: Sydney Australia

Isn't that why Barry Kauler is concentrating on Woof?

http://puppylinux.com/blog/

The CE will come soon.
Multi Puplets.
Plenty of choice for all.

Chris.

Lobster · Posted: Sat 21 Mar 2009, 01:30 Post subject:

Thanks zenfunk,

Puppy is kept small so it can run on more hardware efficiently
and YES it is true Puppy can be bigger as code is loaded and accessed from Ram as needed on low ram machines.
The minimalist philosophy has served us well.

M m m . . . consistency, yes agreed. Maybe this will change as we become more a community distro. Many, many things have been trailed and tried. Poor end user!
Bigger and more packages will be supported with Woof and beyond.

I think you have expressed many of the areas that might be addressed.
Smile

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld

Important!

Where has the wiki entry for Pwidgets gone? Sigmund and I have important links to that page. I only edited it a few days ago.

We need that page!

Thankyou

Mick Smile

Lobster · Posted: Tue 24 Mar 2009, 04:15 Post subject:

http://www.puppylinux.org/wiki/applications/utilities/pwidgets

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld