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Problem copying from hd to USB flash stick
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2008, 22:25    Post subject:  Problem copying from hd to USB flash stick  

Just attempted to copy MyDocuments from the desktop's HD to the memory stick. Lots of red text flashed past and at the end there were 70 files that couldn't be copied (out of hundreds). When I open the copied MyDocuments folder, there is nothing in it.

I can't find any that won't open on the old HD.

Is there a log of what is and isn't copied? Then I might be able to see what's going on.

It'll be a real chore if I have to copy the files/folders over individually!

XP has crashed on the PC and I'm running Puppy4.00 from a live CD.
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Bruce B

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2008, 23:09    Post subject:  

If you filled up the flash stick that would cause the complaint your are talking about.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2008, 23:27    Post subject:  

I've gotten weird complaints from Puppy 4 when copying from hd to USB flash sticks, though in my case the files are always copied ok anyway.

Try this and tell us what happens: copy (NOT move) several of the files (that didn't copy to the USB stick) to /tmp first, then try copying them from /tmp to the USB stick.

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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Aug 2008, 23:49    Post subject:  

Bruce, it's an 8 GB flash memory stick with 6.49 GB free.

The MyDocuments folder is 2223 MG, so I guess that's not the problem
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muggins

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 00:10    Post subject:  

I often have similar problems copying to a flashdrive. Easy solution...just create an archive of whichever directory you want to copy. Assuming you're still using windows, it's probably best to create a .zip.

Menu->Utility->XArchive

Then select New, give it a name, then select the directories/files that you want to add.
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 00:36    Post subject:  

I'm at a complete standstill now. Puppy won't recognise the memory stick and Windows is dead - that's why I'm using Puppy to try and salvage my files before a rebuild.
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davids45


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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 01:24    Post subject:  

G'day,
Have you tried a smaller memory thumb drive, say a 1GB, just in case the Linux driver for your stick (in the Puppy you've got) does not recognise above a certain memory limit? I had this problem with a new SD card being too big for the driver in XP so I had to find a newer driver before I could read the card with XP.
Could be the same problem with Linux and your 8GB thumb drive?
David S.
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muggins

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 01:33    Post subject:  

Robyn,

In my case puppy has problems writing whole directories to my usbkeys, but no problem with single files, so if I zip up the directories beforehand, it copies across fine.

Every now & then I remove everything of the usbkeys & reformat them, and that seems to improve their performance for awhile.

Also, in your other post you mention being unable to remove the puppy CD, which leads to the question of how much RAM does your computer have? (As, with something of the order of 256M, the CD drive should be free after you've booted puppy, allowing you to copy across any data you want to save as a data CD).
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 02:36    Post subject:  

Ok, a few points here:

I can successfully copy to my 1GB Imation flash drive. I took one folder over with 234 MB, no problem. It's full now, but I can unload it onto the 8GB SD card in the Eee if necessary.

I haven't tried copying smaller folders to the 8GB drive yet, because currently Puppy refuses to play with it. - it would earlier today, but it's in a snit at present.

Puppy is currently only on the live CD. I haven't tried to load it onto the PC. Am I able to copy to that CD while it's acting as the operating system? It's a CD-R

How much RAM do I have? There's 53 GB free on an 80 GB HD (it functions as the C-drive but is actually named the D-drive) and a second HD (the original C-drive) is a 6GB with only 1.4 free.
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 02:59    Post subject:  

Well, the USB stick is now mounted again. I have no idea how or why, but it's staying that way for a while.

I tried to copy a smallish folder and it appeared to be successful. I could open it an look at the contents. However, it's now disappeared from the directory. So I tried to copy it again and I'm told it's already there and asked if I want to merge them.

I'm thinking my pooch needs obedience school.
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 03:20    Post subject:  

Just tried to create a new folder/directory on the flash drive and got a big red stop sign and the message mkdir: Read-only file system. Same thing if I try to create a new file as well.

Does this help to explain why I can't copy my files to the flash drive?
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muggins

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 03:32    Post subject:  

Robyn,

no, the 53Gbytes must be the free space on your hard disk. If you open a console:

Menu->Utility->Rxvt

and then enter the following command:

Code:
free


that will tell how much RAM you have, and how much is free. e.g. I get:

Code:

# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:       515788       507940         7848            0        61804
 Swap:        90712            0        90712
Total:       606500       507940        98560


Also, is your CD drive a burner? If it is, and your total RAM is of the order 256Mbytes, then once you've booted puppy, you should be able to remove the boot CD. And I was thinking you could use CD-RW disks to store data on.

Regarding your copying stuff to the usbkey, try opening two rox-filer windows, resize them so that one is above the other, migrate one to your c:\ drive, and the other to the usbkey, (probably /mnt/sda1), then drag whatever you want to copy from one window to the other.
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muggins

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 03:37    Post subject:  

In the Rox-filer window, for the usbkey, is it showing something similar to the attached image, in the top-left corner?
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 04:21    Post subject:  

In the rxvt console I get

total used free shared buffers
mem: 970672 533792 436880 0 167116
swap: 0 0 0
total: 970672 533792 436880

I have no idea what this means - is one of these values RAM?

I got to the console from the icon on the desktop - I can't find any menus - there's nothing all like the Windows menu bar.

My CD drive is a CD/DVD burner - sounds promising. It never occurred to me I could remove the live CD without installing Puppy on a HD first.

I'll send this then try to follow your suggestions from the next post.
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Robyn

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Aug 2008, 04:28    Post subject:  

>try opening two rox-filer windows

Is this what happens when you click on the File icon on the desktop?

>migrate one to your c:\ drive,

How do you do this?

I'm feeling so stupid with all of this, but in nearly 20 years mucking about with Macs and PCs I've never had to deal with issues like this. I just get in the car and drive - never had to get under the bonnet before.
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