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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 03:47    Post subject:  New Puplet - Boxpup
Subject description: Openbox puppy
 

Boxpup is a puplet built around the fast and efficient Openbox
window manager. There is no taskbar and no icon support for the desktop,
with access to applications by right click on the desktop to get a menu.
Middle click on the desktop gives access to "iconified" apps and other
desktops. Iconified apps are also accessible via the Tint iconbar at
the top of the screen. At the bottom of the screen is Wbar for launching
a selection of apps. System feedback is provided by Conky (cpu & memory
usage etc). On the left is a variant of Hotpup.

Wait a minute, how is Hotpup possible without desktop icons ? Easy - Wbar is used to
display the drive icons !

Boxpup is Puppy 4.0 based & comes with a good selection of apps ;-

Opera 9.52 (webbrowser & mail) with flash 9.0124 (latest)
Abiword 2.63 with spellcheck, equation editor etc
Gnumeric 1.82 spreadsheet
Gimp 2.4
Osmo 0.2.2
Thunar filemanager
Xine media player

Download from http://www.puppylinux.ca/tpp/NOP
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sintot


Joined: 29 Oct 2006
Posts: 57
Location: Madrid

PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 06:40    Post subject:  

Hi, Gray.

I'm using your Boxpup, and I like it very much, but I have one question:
Where can I see the applications that when minimized go to the system tray dock (like ayttm, pidgin, transmission, etc.)?

Thanks in advance
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pigshed

Joined: 23 May 2008
Posts: 198
Location: France

PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 08:55    Post subject:  

Hi Gray, nice work - looks well !

A couple of questions :

How do I stop conky, the calendar and the round clock from loading ? Conkyfor one seems to heavily hit performance on my box. I've looked in startup and /etc/rc.d.

How do you change the font size in the top tint bar ? I've tried a few settings and now I'm not sure if I've managed to increase the size or if I'm just getting used to it !

Onlyproblem I've seen is that Opera by default is a takes up a larger window than a 1024*768 screen - though it doesn't load as full screen so you can drag it around and re-size it.

Cheers, Adam.
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sintot


Joined: 29 Oct 2006
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Location: Madrid

PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 09:30    Post subject:  

Pigshed, I think it can be made editing /root/.xinitrc
And I think Tint has it's config file under /root/.config/tint/tintrc
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Ray MK


Joined: 05 Feb 2008
Posts: 764
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 10:29    Post subject:  

This is very nice - in fact better than that - it's outstanding - Luv it.

All the essentials like - hotpup, conky, osmo, opera - and all in a V cool front end.

Beautifully done - and complete with all of the Puppy4 advantages. Brilliant.

Many thanks indeed.

Best Regards - Ray MK
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dogone


Joined: 21 Apr 2008
Posts: 202
Location: Arizona, USA

PostPosted: Sun 24 Aug 2008, 12:04    Post subject: Superb - but boot CD never stops spinning  

Gray, I am VERY impressed with Boxpup. It's gorgeous and easy to navigate. This one is a keeper. Please plan a nice, long future for Boxpup.

Two issues however:

!. The CD never stops spinning. I can eject it, as Boxpup doesn't depend on it, but reload it and the disk spins up and never stops. Something must be hitting it. Rather annoying.

2. Thunar doesn't open and mount pup_save files as Rox does. This is pretty much a show stopper for me as I truly need this capability.

I otherwise look forward to getting to know Boxpup.

Vey nice work. Thanks.
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gray


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Adelaide - South Australia

PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 07:18    Post subject: boxpup  

sintot: There is no system tray, everything iconifies to the tint bar.

pigshed: As sintot has answered - edit .xinitrc to comment out conky and edit tintrc to alter properties. If you google for tint there is a good pdf user guide.

dogone: right click on a 2fs file and select the open with other application option. At the bottom type in the command as filemnt. Then when you right click on a 2fs file again it should give the option to run filemnt.

The cd keeps spinning 'cos hotpup needs to keep polling it to see if the cd has changed. If you set hotpup to always display the cd drives I think it should stop ?
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Mic67

Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 10:21    Post subject:  

Browsing the puppy forum I saw this pupplet, since the DL was only 95 megs and it had The latest Opera with flash.<<<worked perfectly!!!!! I gave it a whirl....

Nice work, Abiwork with spell check (so it does not have to be added as most would), Gimp loads super fast....

Conky is a great app. with some downsides...
-all open windows need to be minimized to see it,
-with dialup the up and download indicator were blank
with the browser window open there doesnt seem to be an obvious blinky for network activity

It would be nice to minimize all windows with 1 click and have a click to another window desktop.

Opera is a preferred browser, but like firefox or foxfire with Java script ON malicious web pages or the like can close your browser for you when you dont want.

This one is a keeper ....well done.

Mic67
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prit1


Joined: 03 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 13:51    Post subject:  

Hi Gray,

As usual, job well done. Thanks for the puplet. One thing that I noticed is that the dialogs for Network setup takes a long time to show up. The whole network setting thing for me took around 2 minutes.

Is it because these wizards are written to work well only with JWM and Icewm?

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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 14:10    Post subject:  

if you have trouble with the flash you can download the tar.gz of flash 10rc (just replace the flash player .so file in the opera / plugins folder)- its file size is bigger but things run a lot smoother and no random white or gray boxes on youtube that go away when refreshed anymore
Its already way better than flash 9 for Linux especially in opera for some reason.
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sintot


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Location: Madrid

PostPosted: Mon 25 Aug 2008, 15:17    Post subject:  

Hi:
As I need the system tray, I have installed stalonetray http://stalonetray.sourceforge.net/, which can be integrated as a dock in openbox.
I run it putting
Code:
stalonetray &
in /root/.xinitrc, just before tint. The config file I'm using is /root/.stalonetrayrc:
Code:
transparent true
window_layer bottom
withdrawn true
parent_bg true

The stalonetray binary is attached.

Thanks Gray, for this great puplet!
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kayan


Joined: 14 Feb 2008
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Location: India

PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug 2008, 13:04    Post subject: excellent  

I am really in love with this puplet....it is reeally fast...
how to see battery level ? i am using laptop,

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SirDuncan


Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 836
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug 2008, 13:58    Post subject: Re: excellent  

kayan wrote:
I am really in love with this puplet....it is reeally fast...
how to see battery level ? i am using laptop,

Well, one way would be to use Conky. Look for "/root/.conkyrc" and edit it to show the battery status. Look here http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html for the different variables that you can use with Conky. The battery stuff should be at the start of the "b" section. Of course, this is obscured if you have a window open. Hopefully someone knows of a battery tray applet that works with Openbox.

@Gray: I've just been playing around with this in VirtualBox, and I must say that I like it. It may end up on my laptop as the primary OS. I've always liked clean desktops and docks - they just jive well with my normal workflow - and BoxPup does that without looking like another OSX clone.

My only issue so far is that a maximized window covers the bottom Wbar. Is there a way to prevent this?

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magerlab

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug 2008, 15:37    Post subject:  

i also found stalone tray( took from zenwalk repo and use it with openbox no i'm s\downloading this new puplet and have a request for a tint. pet also to use it with normal puppy
want to try on eee pc also

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Aug 2008, 16:02    Post subject:  

Ugghh . . . I just booted it up to install it to a flash drive, and Wbar is doing something even more annoying than disappearing under the window and the clock has joined it. See screenshot.
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