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Nican Tlaca


Joined: 15 Jul 2010
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Location: Los Angeles, CA

PostPosted: Fri 16 Jul 2010, 05:10    Post subject:  

willem1940NLD wrote:
Nican Tlaca wrote:
pemasu wrote:
Use vlc 1.0.6 lucid pet. From the puppy lucid repo in the PPM or from quickpet installer, might need updated version. There is also straight link:
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/VLC-1.0.6-Lucid.pet
U/P > puppy : linux
Vlc 1.0.6 made from the ubuntu binaries works fine in Lucid Puppy.



This worked perfectly.
Thank you.Every one I tried before failed.

System specs:

Puppy 5.01
933 MHz
512 MB RAM

Downloaded the .Pet file,
clicked it.

Presto.
I'll give this a try ... although it is a rather old VLC version (1.1.0 around and 1.1.1 coming soon)
http://www.videolan.org/

bbs




I should add that it only works for me after I have installed Mplayer from the Puppy Package Manager.

When uninstalled MPlayer, VLC no longer worked.
I reinstalled MPlayer and it went right back to working.
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Nican Tlaca


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jul 2010, 05:12    Post subject:  

willem1940NLD wrote:
Strange ... 1.0.6 does NOT work for me; firefox doesnt see it and clicking in menu renders a disformed & frozen window I have to use "kill" against.

Could Ext4 format be of influence? Seems to be the only difference.

Puppy lupu 501
1000MHz, RAM 780MB, 2xHD 80GB, 2xSWAP 2GB

MPlayer (other pet) working better than native Gxine; Mplayer removed temporarily for the purpose, VLCplayer removed & reinstalled, 2x computer restart between all actions.

Very sorry indeed.


I left MPlayer installed. VLC won't work for me without it.
I also have AlsaPlayer installed, although I don't think that has anything to with it.
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willem1940NLD

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jul 2010, 05:46    Post subject:  

(*.wmv)

Added Mplayer again. Opening from menu o.k now. Firefox doesnt see, just uses MPlayer .....

Installed Firefox Addon Mediaplayer Connectivity. Mplayer, but mention: "New Face Failed ..." click o.k, extra "DVD-player(!)" comes in.

Confusing to me, but *.wmv video so far seems better, more stable than before, no parttime blurrings seen yet.

All a bit complicated, but will keep it this way for the time being.
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willem1940NLD

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jul 2010, 08:34    Post subject:  

Pity. Found old 'tricky" wmv streams back on web, that in the good old days got a remark by VLC and were played without sound ... now totally refused.

Uninstalling Firefox Addon Mediaplayer Connectivity which in my experience does not like "plugins" (don't know how to uninstall existing plugins Gxine & Mplayer).

No substantial improvements so far.
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Nican Tlaca


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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jul 2010, 17:11    Post subject:  

willem1940NLD wrote:
(*.wmv)

Added Mplayer again. Opening from menu o.k now. Firefox doesnt see, just uses MPlayer .....

Installed Firefox Addon Mediaplayer Connectivity. Mplayer, but mention: "New Face Failed ..." click o.k, extra "DVD-player(!)" comes in.

Confusing to me, but *.wmv video so far seems better, more stable than before, no parttime blurrings seen yet.

All a bit complicated, but will keep it this way for the time being.


Have you downloaded and installed the .Pet file that makes VLC the default video player?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31890

It's at the top of the page, right below the first screenshot. Shouldn't need a Firefox plugin after that.
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willem1940NLD

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jul 2010, 21:01    Post subject:  

Maybe/maybenot; lost count and meanwhile removed everything "vlc" ... not the first time and not my first distro.

Think i really better wait till ALSA -,-,24 is available.

Edit: no, it was this link

Quote:
pemasu wrote:
Use vlc 1.0.6 lucid pet. From the puppy lucid repo in the PPM or from quickpet installer, might need updated version. There is also straight link:
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/VLC-1.0.6-Lucid.pet
U/P > puppy : linux
Vlc 1.0.6 made from the ubuntu binaries works fine in Lucid Puppy.


But i already had a much newer pet/VLC a few hours ago, which did not work either in puppy lupu 501, although I must believe it was good for at least puppy-4-series.

Trust Rémy on VLC forum knows best: recent VLC not compatible with antiquated ALSA (version - - 24 or higher required).
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Shep

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Aug 2010, 09:01    Post subject:  

I've been looking for a lighter mediaplayer for Dpup, and I found that this VLC pet installs and plays mp3s without a hitch. I did some tests to compare its use of resources with that of mplayer. I ran VLC from the commandline and mplayer from its GUI.

For an mp3, top showed VLC using 12% CPU and 17% MEM and mplayer using 14% CPU and 5% MEM (and bmp used 18% CPU and 8% MEM).

But I need help in interpreting the results from Puppy's htop ....

The Puppy Process Manager uses htop and showed only 1 process for mplayer, viz., gmplayer
but nine VLC processes while running VLC. The highest VLC process was using 18% CPU and 3.2% MEM, the next used from 3% to 5% CPU and 3.2% MEM and the remainder were as shown below. Should I add all of these together to find the total usage by VLC, or would this be counting some resources multiple times?

CPU[||||||| 16.8%] Tasks: 59 total, 2 running
Mem[||||||||||||||||||||||||||||121/629MB] Load average: 0.55 0.43 0.38
Swp[| 0/1466MB] Uptime: 09:43:21

PID USER PRI NI VIRT RES SHR S CPU% MEM% TIME+ Command
20172 root 19 -1 108M 20564 13836 R 18.0 3.2 0:01.81 vlc November_Rain
20171 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 3.0 3.2 0:00.45 vlc November_Rain
17954 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 2.0 3.2 0:14.97 vlc November_Rain
20170 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.04 vlc November_Rain
17955 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.56 vlc November_Rain
17957 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.19 vlc November_Rain
17956 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.14 vlc November_Rain
17959 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.12 vlc November_Rain
17958 root 20 0 108M 20564 13836 S 0.0 3.2 0:00.06 vlc November_Rain


Regardless, it seems that the installed mplayer is little different from VLC in its CPU loading but mplayer uses much less memory, at least when playing mp3s. I tried an mp4 video clip that works with mplayer, but VLC complains: no suitable decoder module for fourcc 'avc1'

Edit: just out of interest, I started mplayer from the CLI and top shows mplayer using 0% CPU and 4% MEM so I guess this means mplayer is already among the lightest mmplayers?
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Dennola4


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PostPosted: Fri 20 Aug 2010, 06:06    Post subject:  

ttuuxx,

I have just ended a thread which began with me trying to use your VLC PET to watch Apple Movie trailers (and other .mov files available only as RTSP streams). You're welcome to read it, but its wordy as hell:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58767

The conclusion is that I would need your VLC pet (vlc-0.8.6h-engv5-1) recompiled with live555:
http://www.live555.com/liveMedia/public/

....and using the configure options:
Code:
./configure --enable-livedotcom --with-livedotcom-tree=/usr/local/lib/live/


I really hate to ask, but is there any way that you (or any other kind soul with the know-how) could rebuild it, incorporating the two modifications listed above?

Pleeeeeease?

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paulhomebus


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Aug 2010, 17:46    Post subject:  

Just in-case anybody was wondering....

This seems to be solved...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=445781#445781

If so please mark it solved, and update your first post in this thread

Puppylover 4 eva...
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Dennola4


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Aug 2010, 18:00    Post subject:  

I've noticed that I can watch Apple Trailers, but still can't seem to stream RTSP.

Would still like (love, actually) a VLC PET built with live555 -- hence the request.

Not sure which will come first -- one magically appears or I learn how to do it myself. We'll see.

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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Aug 2010, 21:47    Post subject:  

Well you could try the older version of VLC I contributed back in 2007 -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13863
This was definitely compiled with LIVE555 support.

In an attempt to clear up potential confusion over this subject:
the video stream you mentioned in your earlier thread
rtsp://qss.itc.virginia.edu/itc-pubs/when-I-go-to-UVA-lg.mov
is from a LIVE555 server, and it does require explicit LIVE555 support in the media player application.

But movie trailers from Apple do not require LIVE555 support, in fact they require no special streaming support (such as RTSP) at all !!
This is because the movie trailers on Apple's site are all just normal HTTP links. They are not video streams!
Apple has deliberately chosen to use QuickTime progressive download instead of streaming.
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Dennola4


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Aug 2010, 23:23    Post subject:  

tempestuous --

I sincerely appreciate your response. I think the confusion began for me when I noticed terms overlapping. "QT", for instance. Apparently it sometimes means a library of widgets written in C++ and used in the open source community to build GUIs, but sometimes it is an abbreviation for QuickTime, as in "QT file". Then there is the fact that a "QT file" is also an "MOV file", so follows the faulty reasoning:

"If this RTSP stream ends with ".mov", that means it is QuickTime file, which means that anything requiring a QuickTime plugin is a stream."

But as you are pointing out: nope. Not the case. In fact, Googling the subject yields this extremely clear illustration of the differences between HTTP and RTSP in simple language -- and whaddya know? It's written by one of the VLC devs.

http://www.remlab.net/op/vod.shtml

Anyway, I plan to give your VLC pet a whirl and would love help resolving how to stream RTSP.

And as a final note, now that I know that I technically CAN watch Apple Movie Trailers, I'd like to go on record having said, "BOOOOOOO.....APPLE!!!!! -- and offer this fine alternative site for watching super HD trailers:

http://www.traileraddict.com/

Thanks all for the help. Puppy people rock.

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paulhomebus


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PostPosted: Fri 27 Aug 2010, 23:54    Post subject:  

You might wanna try this if you are using Lucid 5.1

It's gmplayer with all the codecs you could want, I believe it will stream RTSP,
among many others... (includes w32codecs, and non-free-codec packages)

But unfortunately it doesn't play well with JWM, so use it only in icewm, also I took out the .desktop file, so there's no menu entry.... just run from console type - gmplayer....

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57913
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PostPosted: Sat 28 Aug 2010, 04:13    Post subject:  

Dennola4 wrote:
tempestuous --
Anyway, I plan to give your VLC pet a whirl and would love help resolving how to stream RTSP.

Let me summarise how I now understand this whole business, thanks to your patient assistance. Laughing Laughing Laughing

There are various protocols that we may wish to accommodate, including http, rtsp, mms, & pnm. Of these, the browser itself understands only http protocol. When we wish to process any of these other protocols, we (i) need to install an application that understands that particular protocol, and (ii) we need to inform the browser of this application's name so the browser can delegate the processing of that protocol's data to that application.

My personal interest at this stage is radio streaming (the limitations of my dialip internet access precludes movie streaming).

To satisfy (i) for the rtsp protocol, I installed the HelixPlayer and I can demonstrate its capability of accommodating rtsp this way: in a console type:
helix rtsp://.....

To satisfy (ii) for the rtsp protocol I added three lines in about:config as I am indebted to Dennola4 for showing elsewhere. Yes, that's three** lines for Firefox 3.6 --- whereas only two of those lines were needed in versions before 3.6.

Now that seems clear enough, one would think ..... until I noticed Mplayer playing an rtsp stream before I had added any lines in about:config. So how can Firefox have Mplayer handling rtsp, you may ask? Well, it turns out there is such a thing as transporting rtsp over http, so I guess I must be seeing an example of that. Here it is: http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/live/radio/0708.smil and it doesn't look like an rtsp streaming real audio does it? Question

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Dennola4 wrote:
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network.protocol-handler.app.rtsp user set string /usr/bin/vlc

network.protocol-handler.external.rtsp user set boolean true

network.protocol-handler.expose.rtsp user set boolean false

That 3rd line provides for you to select the application at run time. Don't change it in any way.

To enable mms streaming as well, repeat the above to create three more statements, but substituting mms for rtsp in each.

Post Script:
Don't leave yet, there's a follow-up to this saga, folks......... Shocked Shocked Very Happy

So I upgraded to Firefox 3.6.8 and added the same 3 lines again for mms support, and similar for rtsp. I restarted FF and, guess what .... ? It didn't work! I restarted again and clicked on a site with an mms:// URL and got the same old "no application associated with that protocol" whine all over again! I restarted FF a few times, still no go. I rebooted, still wouldn't budge. Sad No success for rtsp URLs either.

But have patience. Two days and about 4 reboots later, for no reason known, FF suddenly decided it would begin recognising mms:// URLs. Okay, so it still didn't recognise rtsp:// URLs but I was thankful for small mercies.

Then, two days further on the weather conditions and planetary alignments must have been just to its liking, because FF started to recognise rtsp:// URLs too!!

Whoo Hoo! Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

The moral of this message is ....... just be patient. It won't work right away; it probably won't work next day; but sooner or later, when you least expect it, FireFox will start working! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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vlcproblem

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Dec 2010, 06:58    Post subject:  

Hello
i need to download the VLC package for Puppy 4.3.1 but all the download links in this thread end in a 404 Page not found error

does anybody have a link to download the PET package?

thanks a lot in advance
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