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"WordGrinder is a simple, Unicode-aware word processor that runs in a terminal. It supports basic paragraph styles, character styles, just enough screen markup to be useful, and is driven via an easy to use menu interface. "

Ok well I was bored and wanted to see something I haven't seen before. A terminal word processor, well i guess it would be ok for people who have one-bone puppy linux, or something, I even made a menu listing and used the "Grub worm" for the icon lol
Anyways enjoy and if anybody actually like this program please send a line or 2.
thanks
ttuuxxx

to start it type wordgrinder2 in a terminal or use menu/document/wordgrinder

alt+downArrow to get the menu

Used this on Crunchbang but never thought I'd be able to get it running in Puppy! Thanks so much!

redandwhitestripes wrote:Used this on Crunchbang but never thought I'd be able to get it running in Puppy! Thanks so much!

your welcome, glad you like it
Looks like more than I figured would of downloaded this application. Thats cool

ttuuxxx

This is great fun, many thanks for the pet. Too bad a use can't increase font size (tough to read on an eee) or at least go with a bold font to increase readability.

But it's a hoot to play with.

Jake

jakfish wrote:This is great fun, many thanks for the pet. Too bad a use can't increase font size (tough to read on an eee) or at least go with a bold font to increase readability.

But it's a hoot to play with.

Jake

Hi Jake I coded in some a larger Font for you, its the second package
or use this link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=16459

Ps with the code I added in located at /usr/bin/wordgrinder2 you can right click on it and open it as text, if find it too large and change
-font 10x20 to
-font 9x15 <--- smaller

ttuuxxx

Ps updated both packages so they they work on puppy 4.2 with the reversed rxvt colours.

Wow, that was fast. Much obliged again--it's FAR more readable on the eee. I'm trying to think of what use I can put this app to.

Thanks,
Jake

jakfish wrote:Wow, that was fast. Much obliged again--it's FAR more readable on the eee. I'm trying to think of what use I can put this app to.

Thanks,
Jake

hey Jake if you like that one give me a day I have an idea I'm going to work out to do with the fonts etc .
ttuuxxx

You da man here. I don't know how difficult to re-position, but it is a little odd that the cursor places itself in the screen's middle, rather than the top (that may be a programer's favorite position, I wouldn't know--or else I'm doing something completely asinine upon start-up).

edit: on further thought, since there's no drop-down menu (the screen becomes the menu), maybe that's where the cursor must begin.

Jake

jakfish wrote:You da man here. I don't know how difficult to re-position, but it is a little odd that the cursor places itself in the screen's middle, rather than the top (that may be a programer's favorite position, I wouldn't know--or else I'm doing something completely asinine upon start-up).

edit: on further thought, since there's no drop-down menu (the screen becomes the menu), maybe that's where the cursor must begin.

Jake

Ok here's a newer version that supports new text formats,lol
anyways install the pet, then install sakura, open sakura and right click on the desktop, set you font size, color etc. This will work with any command line application, Sakura is a great terminal, you can also change the font while running wordgrinder.

To Start:
Open Sakura and Just type wordgrinder and hit enter and it will start.
now right click on the screen and you'll have lots of sakura options
ttuuxxx

This is way-cool; I've never heard of Sakura before. I'm running wordgrinder on black background/white text/Arial bold. Looks better on the screen than OOO 3.0 or my Wine/MS Word 97

Nice that Sakura remembers your previous font choice. I may never use regular console again.

Jake

Well if you like that jake have a look at the thread for it, I made it look like a C-64 once, lol Plus it does transparent backgrounds etc.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 704#202704

ttuuxxx

I've got these apps on the puppy_save file--the ultimate accolade

Thanks again,
Jake

Sakura looks interesting and I'll give it a try sometime, though there are other ways of doing such magnification, even in the default Puppy terminals (I did some coding in the past to do that but I'll have to look that out). According to the info below, however, Sakura itself is (or was?) not as lightweight, in terms of process usage, as some terminal offerings.

The Debian forum thread at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467375 suggests that evilvte or lxterminal may also be worth looking at [extract follows]:

"I didn't upload it because the current version isn't good enough. It
takes more memory than other vte-based terminals because it doesn't
share a single process for multiple terminals.
. . .
Good work. I am still interested to see a really resource saving
terminal in Debian. I didn't upload sakura into debian becaure it's
useless if it's not really saving the resources.

Please have a look there is a fork called evilvte in debian which save
more resources. And another VTE-based terminal callled lxterminal saves
more"

Might also be worth checking out http://lxde.org/ which is a lightweight desktop (uses Openbox window manager) from which lxterminal apparently comes. Parts/most of LXDE are used by Slitaz and TinyMe. See also the related threads:

pet of lxterminal: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 512#278512

Boxpup (uses Openbox): http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... =335579092

There's a new version of Wordgrinder out:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/wordgri ... 2/download

@ttuuxxx

I really like this little app and I'm in the process of mirroring it on my domain, but I was wondering if you could clarify a couple things for me first.

The first post has two versions, that's pretty self explanatory. But then there is a wordgrinder_0.3.1-1.2-2.pet posted with sakura 1 (another great one, btw).

I assume the 0.3.1 version is a later version than that posted at the top of the thread, but does it require sakura to run or just for the font tweaking capabilities? How do the two apps depend on each other?

Sully

naaa sakura is just an option, you type wordgrinder in sakura and it opens with sakura, if you don't have sakura installed then it just defaults to rxvt like usual
ttuuxxx

okay, that makes sense.. its sakura's capabilities that make it more... flexible.

Thanks ttuuxxx

Another console based word processor you can look at is SUE (Simple Unix Editor).

Way back in the 80's, a chap named Eric Meyer was developing for the CP/M OS that ran on Osbornes and other old 8-bit systems. He started with a minimal editor released in source by another developer called VDO and started enhancing it. VDO became VDE, a CP/M editor that used the WordStar command set, had macros (which WordStar then did not), but was smaller and faster than WordStar itself, since it ran entirely in memory and didn't use overlay files. That limited the total size of a document you could edit, but it wasn't an issue for most users.

Eric shifted to MS-DOS, and continued to develop VDE. He still develops and supports the DOS version, and I run it here in a console window under WinXP. CP/M development was picked up by Carson Wilson, who renamed it ZDE and continued to enhance it. Carson was also the lead developer for a Linux console editor that would be nassed on VDE's design. VDE and ZDE were coded in Assembler, and SUE is coded in C, so it's not a direct port - it's a rewrite for a new OS.

It's a single static binary with no dependencies, weighing in at 327K. You can drop it in a directory in your Linux PATH and start using it. It runs fine here in a console in rxvt or XCFE Terminal.

A binary is here, with man page:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... on/sue.zip

C source is here, reported to compile out of the box on Solaris:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... sue07i.tgz

Info and history is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... ue-history

And the Man page is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... e-man-page

The default is the WordStar command set, but there's a function-key driven mode as well.

More information abut and downloads of VDE, ZDE, and related utilities and files are at the VDE Editor home page:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/Home
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Dennis

Thanks, I've just downloaded this one. VDE (the DOS relative of this) is/was an amazing little editor / word processor for its size.