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Béèm


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Nov 2008, 17:06    Post subject:  

I remark that in fact nobody had the idea to ask the question in a mozilla support group.
So I did now in news:news.mozilla.org group mozilla.support.seamonkey.
For those who want to follow use Mozilla news to login to the server, but beware don't use the insert key. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 18:57    Post subject:  

I got one reply from someone using fedora and 1.1.12. He don't have he issue.
I installed 1.1.12 in puppy and still have the issue.
Maybe not a SeaMonkey issue?
Maybe something weird in puppy or in the forum?

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 19:31    Post subject:  

I tried another forum and have the same issue still.
Leaves puppy itself then, altho other applications like swrite/geany work correctly.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 22:52    Post subject:  

Thanks, Béèm. Does it also happen to you in, say, Yahoo's mail compose window?
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 23:06    Post subject:  

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Maybe something weird in puppy or in the forum?

I'm nearly certain it's something in Puppy 4.xx, or at least a combo of something in Puppy and something in mozilla/gecko. I had no issues in 3.01, but in both 4.x versions I had issues with every version of Firefox and Seamonkey that I tried, and also bareview. All of which are mozilla/gecko based browsers.

I also had the problem in a basic test page I made that included nothing but a textarea and the html, head, body, and form tags needed to make the page proper. (A "textarea" is a spot that supports multiple lines of text.) So I doubt it's related to the forum. Probably something to do with how the browser uses GTK widgets to create a textarea.

If I were going to try to figure out the problem, I would start by replacing GTK or glib with alternate versions and seeing if it made a difference.

I don't have time to mess with it myself, at least not for the next several days. Maybe over the weekend. It would be a good way to justify putting off the writing assignment that I will be assigned tomorrow.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov 2008, 16:13    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
Thanks, Béèm. Does it also happen to you in, say, Yahoo's mail compose window?
Good question, Flash.
No it doesn't happen in the yahoo compose mail window.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov 2008, 16:19    Post subject:  

Pizzasgood wrote:
I don't have time to mess with it myself, at least not for the next several days. Maybe over the weekend. It would be a good way to justify putting off the writing assignment that I will be assigned tomorrow.
Your studies should have priority above these problems.

I saw this post by accident and being intrigued I started to do some diagnostics. Normally I don't use the insert key very much.

To mess with GTK or glib is a bit beyond my skills. At least not on this PC.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 05:53    Post subject:  

I just tried Thunderbird, and it crashes it too (e.g. the compose window). And the help browser in Dingo. So I guess it crashes everything Mozilla.

IIRC, muppy has an updated GTK/Glib - we could test with them.
I thought MU had posted packages, but I can't find them. Does anyone else remember this?

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 18:18    Post subject:  

I have partially identified and partially solved (more like worked around) the problem.

I recently noticed that by adding the compile time option "--enable-debug=yes" to glib caused some glib related segfaults and crashes to stop. This in itself did not solve the INSERT key issue.

Naturally, I decided to also compile gtk+ with the option "--enable-debug=yes" and success, the problem goes away; I can now press the insert key!

This completely solves the problem from the end-user's perspective.

EDIT: I almost forgot to mention, i did not need to recompile anything other than glib and gtk+, seamonkey was left untouched.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 20:03    Post subject:  

thekevinday wrote:
This completely solves the problem from the end-user's perspective.
Congrats.
But how would an end-user easily apply this solution?

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 20:26    Post subject:  

I was referring to more on the terms of the distributors being able to supply a recompiled work around version until such a time that the real problem gets fixed.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 20:32    Post subject:  

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But how would an end-user easily apply this solution?

Someone would make new packages and the end-user would install them. And they would get put in the next Puppy.

Béèm - you may have missed the fact that thekevinday is not using Puppy.

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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 21:19    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:
Béèm - you may have missed the fact that thekevinday is not using Puppy.
Well yes, I have seen it now on the previous page. So for puppy, wait and see then.
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PostPosted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 21:51    Post subject:  

Cool. I'll take care of it tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Nov 2008, 18:17    Post subject:  

Well, I though I had it working fine, but I think it broke Geany now, so I just took down my package before anybody borks themselves (hopefully they haven't already...).

I will test further.

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