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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Tue 04 Nov 2008, 17:06 Post subject:
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I remark that in fact nobody had the idea to ask the question in a mozilla support group.
So I did now in news:news.mozilla.org group mozilla.support.seamonkey.
For those who want to follow use Mozilla news to login to the server, but beware don't use the insert key.
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Béèm

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Posted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 18:57 Post subject:
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I got one reply from someone using fedora and 1.1.12. He don't have he issue.
I installed 1.1.12 in puppy and still have the issue.
Maybe not a SeaMonkey issue?
Maybe something weird in puppy or in the forum?
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Béèm

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Posted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 19:31 Post subject:
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I tried another forum and have the same issue still.
Leaves puppy itself then, altho other applications like swrite/geany work correctly.
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Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9843 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 22:52 Post subject:
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Thanks, Béèm. Does it also happen to you in, say, Yahoo's mail compose window?
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Pizzasgood

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 6270 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA
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Posted: Wed 05 Nov 2008, 23:06 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Maybe something weird in puppy or in the forum? |
I'm nearly certain it's something in Puppy 4.xx, or at least a combo of something in Puppy and something in mozilla/gecko. I had no issues in 3.01, but in both 4.x versions I had issues with every version of Firefox and Seamonkey that I tried, and also bareview. All of which are mozilla/gecko based browsers.
I also had the problem in a basic test page I made that included nothing but a textarea and the html, head, body, and form tags needed to make the page proper. (A "textarea" is a spot that supports multiple lines of text.) So I doubt it's related to the forum. Probably something to do with how the browser uses GTK widgets to create a textarea.
If I were going to try to figure out the problem, I would start by replacing GTK or glib with alternate versions and seeing if it made a difference.
I don't have time to mess with it myself, at least not for the next several days. Maybe over the weekend. It would be a good way to justify putting off the writing assignment that I will be assigned tomorrow.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Thu 06 Nov 2008, 16:13 Post subject:
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| Flash wrote: | | Thanks, Béèm. Does it also happen to you in, say, Yahoo's mail compose window? | Good question, Flash.
No it doesn't happen in the yahoo compose mail window.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Thu 06 Nov 2008, 16:19 Post subject:
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| Pizzasgood wrote: | | I don't have time to mess with it myself, at least not for the next several days. Maybe over the weekend. It would be a good way to justify putting off the writing assignment that I will be assigned tomorrow. | Your studies should have priority above these problems.
I saw this post by accident and being intrigued I started to do some diagnostics. Normally I don't use the insert key very much.
To mess with GTK or glib is a bit beyond my skills. At least not on this PC.
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disciple
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 6179 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 05:53 Post subject:
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I just tried Thunderbird, and it crashes it too (e.g. the compose window). And the help browser in Dingo. So I guess it crashes everything Mozilla.
IIRC, muppy has an updated GTK/Glib - we could test with them.
I thought MU had posted packages, but I can't find them. Does anyone else remember this?
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 18:18 Post subject:
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I have partially identified and partially solved (more like worked around) the problem.
I recently noticed that by adding the compile time option "--enable-debug=yes" to glib caused some glib related segfaults and crashes to stop. This in itself did not solve the INSERT key issue.
Naturally, I decided to also compile gtk+ with the option "--enable-debug=yes" and success, the problem goes away; I can now press the insert key!
This completely solves the problem from the end-user's perspective.
EDIT: I almost forgot to mention, i did not need to recompile anything other than glib and gtk+, seamonkey was left untouched.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 20:03 Post subject:
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| thekevinday wrote: | | This completely solves the problem from the end-user's perspective. | Congrats.
But how would an end-user easily apply this solution?
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 20:26 Post subject:
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I was referring to more on the terms of the distributors being able to supply a recompiled work around version until such a time that the real problem gets fixed.
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disciple
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 6179 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 20:32 Post subject:
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| Quote: | | But how would an end-user easily apply this solution? |
Someone would make new packages and the end-user would install them. And they would get put in the next Puppy.
Béèm - you may have missed the fact that thekevinday is not using Puppy.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 21:19 Post subject:
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| disciple wrote: | | Béèm - you may have missed the fact that thekevinday is not using Puppy. | Well yes, I have seen it now on the previous page. So for puppy, wait and see then.
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Pizzasgood

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 6270 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA
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Posted: Mon 10 Nov 2008, 21:51 Post subject:
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Cool. I'll take care of it tomorrow.
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Pizzasgood

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 6270 Location: Knoxville, TN, USA
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Posted: Tue 11 Nov 2008, 18:17 Post subject:
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Well, I though I had it working fine, but I think it broke Geany now, so I just took down my package before anybody borks themselves (hopefully they haven't already...).
I will test further.
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