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A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Tue 20 May 2008, 19:43    Post subject:  A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy  

Removed. The information was unmaintained and out of date.
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erikson


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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008, 14:01    Post subject: Re: A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy  

rcrsn51 wrote:
The attached document (...) discusses the various decisions that a user must make before starting the installation process

Excellent initiative. Lobster's wikka-wakka publication makes it even more accessible.

Comment: surely it would be useful to mention also the USB pendrive alternative, that reduces the risk of messing up an existing Windows OS (on hard disk) to nearly zero.

Actually I used your (rcrsn51's) pup2usb of thread 16950 Wink

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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008, 19:37    Post subject:  

This is a very good idea.

Now all we need to do is get the file in the Puppy ISO and have it pretty easily found, perhaps displayed as part of the Universal Installer?

Thanks to rcrsn51 for writing and Lobster for hosting.

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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 21 May 2008, 23:39    Post subject:  

In response to the suggestions above, I have made a few changes and uploaded a new copy of my file. [Edit] I have also updated the entry in Lobster's wiki.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Sat 24 May 2008, 06:15    Post subject:  

Just a couple of comments for someone to add.
If playing around with partitions/repartitioning - make a small swap partition at the same time.
If intending to adopt the FULL installation option, the new partition needs to be formatted before running the PUI.
Probably also mention somewhere about using pfix=ram boot parameter.
Maybe it isn't made entirely clear that a FULL install actually decompresses the files (only that the word 'compress' wasn't invoked - something that will be well understood by SuperStor/Doublespace refugees).
Possibly scope for a brief outline of the advantages and disadvantages of FULL & FRUGAL based on available resources and operator intentions?
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Bruce B

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PostPosted: Sun 25 May 2008, 18:41    Post subject:  

This post is meant to be accepted with some humour, but not too much.

The Guide presumes Windows exists and the person installing Puppy Linux wants to keep Microsoft Windows.

The Guide fortunately does not (and should not) presume that Microsoft Windows is still functioning well.

While the Guide cannot cover every situation, the funny part to me is the truth that most people who install Puppy Linux really do value their Microsoft Windows installation and want to keep and preserve it.

I suppose the best place to install Puppy is where Windows was, before you formatted that partition as a Linux partition.

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oblivious

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PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2008, 23:50    Post subject:  

Yes, good idea.

Can I make a suggestion about the layout - to divide the information up and include headings and number the options? For example, if you have headings "Decision 1 - What kind of installation method to choose", etc. then a reader who might already know what method they want (or whatever) can jump to the next heading.

If there are additional headings such as "what you need to know before starting" "what are the options" "potential problems" "alternatives" (or whatever) then it makes it more digestible.

If the options are numbered, it makes it easy to see that there is a finite number (I think that it can be overwhelming as a newbie to be confronted with a lot of info/options) and also helps someone who comes back to the guide after going off to read up on partitioning (or whatever they might need more background on) to easily return to an option they had read previously.
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Sage

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PostPosted: Thu 29 May 2008, 09:04    Post subject:  

Quote:
The Guide presumes Windows exists and the person installing Puppy Linux wants to keep Microsoft Windows.


I wouldn't necessarily presume that they *want* to keep M$W, more a question of retaining a lifetimes' accumulation of info, contacts, data that simply cannot be usefully be transferred to another OS. It's that old Irish joke again about from whence one starts out....
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Bruce B

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PostPosted: Thu 29 May 2008, 09:15    Post subject:  

Sage,

The qualifier is you much accept it with some humour (but not much).

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2008, 17:55    Post subject:  

cool, but if you mention dd you must give additional info on using it. Or cut the incomplete part out. This refers to the wiki page.

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Skull Girl

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jun 2008, 15:31    Post subject:    

Question: What is Java Script? To be honest, I hardly know anything about computers, I'm a bookworm.
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Daz

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PostPosted: Sun 22 Jun 2008, 16:28    Post subject:  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript

It's commonly used in webpages for various things such as roll over effects. (Keep in mind that I haven't read what the author of this topic posted)
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Aug 2008, 11:30    Post subject:  

what I need is a guide as to what files to download to burn to a cd, etc., without referencing window$...
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yantux

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Sep 2008, 07:01    Post subject:  

How I can remove software from puppy 4.00 that installed in hdd?

Now, I can't do it:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33139

windows package manager don't see installed packega too.
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faxmebeer

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Sep 2008, 10:43    Post subject: Windows doesn't exist  

This has been brought up a couple of times as a possibility, but I don't understand what the implications are. I want to install Puppy on a computer that has no functioning Windows OS. It's there, somewhere, but it won't boot up. What do I need to do differently to get Puppy to load up on an essentially blank HD?
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