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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Posts: 4819
Location: GB

PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 12:52    Post_subject:  

Some distros use Sylpheed, some Claws - both are excellent.
Hey, guys - we're incredibly lucky - we aren't American and we don't live in America, so why the h*ll would we want AOL Time Warner and their funny systems. Presumably none of us use those crazy diddy local banks emanating from the USA, either? You know - the ones who sell bad mortgages and bundle worthless SiV financial instruments.
All my American friends have endless grief with AOL, banks and IMAPI, inter alia. I tell the ex-pat ones to dump it and come home, but pride guarantees that their pain will continue. The native-born sons-of-the-free have a more difficult task leaving the sinking ship, but we take all comers here. Puppy users especially welcome....
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tempestuous

Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 13:40    Post_subject:  

IMAP is, of course, not unique to AOL. It's a perfectly sensible method of remote mail storage, and is offered by many ISP's. It suits people who need to check their messages from multiple workstations in different locations.
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SirDuncan


Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Posts: 836
Location: Ohio, USA

PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 14:38    Post_subject:  

Well, I just installed Dingo last night. The first thing I always do when setting up a new save file is to install things like Gqview, Firefox, Opera, and IceWM. So I opened up PetGet and, WOW, what a big change! It seems like a serious improvement. I love having things sorted and easy to find.

JWM has been greatly improved, but I still like IceWM a little better (thanks for the package Ttuuxxx!).

As for Opera, I assume that it isn't in the repository because it is not qt4 yet. I'll probably just try the versions of qt3 and Opera from Puppy 3.

One issue I noticed:
The Firefox package in the repository is not regular Firefox. I wouldn't care, except that it won't update. What's up with that?

I've never really used a POPmail client, so I can't say anything about what client is good. The browser, however, I do have an opinion on. Both Firefox and Opera are very strong browsers. Seamonkey has always seemed somewhat lacking, though. It's not as powerful as Firefox, nor as fast as Opera. If I could only use one browser, it would probably be Opera. The problem is that Opera requires qt. That seems to make Firefox the better choice for Puppy. Still, I have no problem installing my preferred browser, so I have no problem with Seamonkey as the default.

Re: AOL problems
People still use AOL? Talk about masochism.

To sum up the main point, Dingo seems far more stable than other early series releases based upon my short use and it definitely seems like a good release. Congrats Barry!

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jonyo

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 14:56    Post_subject:  

SirDuncan wrote:
As for Opera, I assume that it isn't in the repository because it is not qt4 yet. I'll probably just try the versions of qt3 and Opera from Puppy 3.

You could try the latest slackware package ( I extract to usr/lib) from the official site & I'm using qt3 from the 3xx series.

And yes, I still use aol.

(Edit - I might have used the Opera 9.27 pet from the Canuck site ..forget.)
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pop-pop

Joined: 10 Dec 2005
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Location: US - North Carolina

PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2008, 20:54    Post_subject: video problem with Dell laptop  

My Dell laptop with an Intel 82845 video chip has worked fine with recent Puppy versions using the i810 driver selected by the wizard. The only video that works on this machine with Puppy 4.0 is xvesa and then only at 640x480x16 which is basically unusable.

The Xorg video wizard selects the intel driver which fails in all modes. The problem appears to be that the i810 driver (/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so) is simply a symbolic link to intel_drv.so.

Barry, could a "real" i810_drv.so driver be included with the next Puppy update?
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paulh177


Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu 08 May 2008, 02:51    Post_subject:  

Full HD install, k2.6.21.7
After checking both the "fast boot" options in Puppy Setup/Configure Startup, the boot sequence then always displays (after the fast boot messages)
Code:
cat /tmp/oldmousedevice: No such file or directory

This appears to be a purely cosmetic problem.

paul
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Wosh


Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Location: Nuremberg Germany

PostPosted: Thu 08 May 2008, 19:07    Post_subject:  xfdiff-cut: Different Files displayed identical
Sub_title: Strange bug after creating pup_save.2fs-file
 

Test from a console in Puppy Linux 4.00, frugal installation, pup_save.2fs not created yet:

1. xfdiff .jwmrc .jwmrc-tray
Result: xfdiff-cut displays the differences of these to files.

2. Shutdown computer, creating pup_save.2fs, reboot.

3. Same test:
xfdiff .jwmrc .jwmrc-tray
Result: xfdiff> *** Files are identical

The console displays this warning:
** (xfdiff:4042): WARNING **: shm_open(/tmp/xffm.4042): Function not implemented

Very strange!
pup_save.2fs only contains the selected keyboard layout and the screen resolution after the first call of xorgwizard .

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floborg


Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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Location: Fort Worth, TX

PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2008, 00:53    Post_subject:  

* The ALSA sound state fix doesn't seem to work for the "CD" level, maybe others. I set it to 0, reboot, and it comes back at the default of 93. Opening sgmixer, though, causes it to reset to 0. This doesn't happen with ALSA mixer, though.

* Noticed that the pupX xset GUI doesn't have a method to change the monitor power off timeout. There appears to be a default since my monitor will turn off after a while.

* The PetGet GUI is just a bit too large to fit on a 800x600 screen.

* Blinky and absvolume use more memory than their equivalents from 3.01. Interestingly enough, xload and freememapplet seem to use less.

* Now running in RAM on a 224MB machine with Xorg. No issues yet, but I run Opera instead of SeaMonkey.

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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2008, 02:09    Post_subject:  

For frugal install, Universal Installer doesn't offer to install grub? At the end of install process, puppy files are copied to puppy400 directory ... but no offer to install grub. And nothing in the menu for grub install either.

PS: The grub-config is still there, running it manually from console will install grub nicely.

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John Doe

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Location: Michigan, US

PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2008, 02:16    Post_subject:  

report #2 (IBM Thinkpad x21)

booted both kernel versions of dingo final several times each, on a friend's laptop. IBM Thinkpad x21.

3 observations.

1-all known working HW worked great with either kernel.(sound worked in both). i've yet to test pcmcia.

2-the 2.6.25 kernel required use of the power button to turn the machine off. tried booting also with acpi=off with no luck.(seem to recall this was already mentioned here).

3-AJ asked recently for input on memory foot print.

memory usages according to hardinfo off a liveCD boot for each kernel version on the aforementioned laptop are as follows:

2.6.25 = 56megs
2.6.21.7 = 62megs
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2008, 04:27    Post_subject: Re: video problem with Dell laptop  

pop-pop wrote:
My Dell laptop with an Intel 82845 video chip has worked fine with recent Puppy versions using the i810 driver selected by the wizard. The only video that works on this machine with Puppy 4.0 is xvesa and then only at 640x480x16 which is basically unusable.

The Xorg video wizard selects the intel driver which fails in all modes. The problem appears to be that the i810 driver (/usr/X11R7/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so) is simply a symbolic link to intel_drv.so.

Barry, could a "real" i810_drv.so driver be included with the next Puppy update?

Xorg 7.4 is due out this month, so I am considering it for Puppy 4.1.

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pop-pop

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PostPosted: Fri 09 May 2008, 05:43    Post_subject: video problem with Dell laptop  

I assumed that the greatly reduced number of Xorg drivers and the single symlink for i810 was something you had done to reduce the size of Puppy 4. Wrong assumption?
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geneven

Joined: 04 Oct 2007
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Location: Agoura Hills, California

PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 12:04    Post_subject: Good Firefox  

I found an excellent Puppy-friendly version of Firefox 3 Beta 5. I believe that it was from the person who created Wolf Pup. It works great for me in Dingo. As I recall (I'm in ugh, Windows at the moment), it even has java already implemented.
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joopyhellspawn


Joined: 12 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 18:59    Post_subject:  

I booted Dingo today and was greatly disappointed when I could not get wireless working. I went through every module listed and nothing. So I booted it up in my other laptop and same thing. It worked in every other Puppy I run. I didn't check out any other parts of Dingo as wireless very impostant to me and spent 2 housp tqying to het it working
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kirk

Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2008, 21:28    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Xorg 7.4 is due out this month, so I am considering it for Puppy 4.1.


Cool! I was going to do that. The ATI drivers for my card have had a lot of work for 7.4. Building Xorg and Mesa is something that T2 makes a lot easier.
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