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Thinkpad 600E forgetting sound settings
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AndyHunt

Joined: 13 Feb 2008
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Thu 01 May 2008, 05:36    Post subject:  Thinkpad 600E forgetting sound settings  

I'm having some trouble getting my venerable Thinkpad 600E to remember it's settings for the sound card. If I use ALSA to configure the soundcard using the suggested settings the card works perfectly until I reboot.

Immediately fter using ALSA the relevant settings in the modprobe.conf files are
Code:
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.8 ---
alias snd-card-0 snd-cs4236
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cs4236
options snd-cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x538 isapnp=0 dma1=1 dma2=0 irq=5
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

That seems to work.

After a reboot the conf file is changed (I've no idea how) to
Code:
# --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---
# --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.8 ---
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cs4236
options snd-cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x538 isapnp=0 dma1=1 dma2=0 irq=5
# --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. ---

alias snd-card-0 snd-cs46xx
alias sound-slot-0 snd-cs46xx

That doesn't

Any ideas how to get the settings to survive a reboot.

BTW I'm using Puppy 3.98

Thanks

Andy
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Aitch


Joined: 04 Apr 2007
Posts: 6825
Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Fri 02 May 2008, 06:32    Post subject:  

Hi Andy

Not sure that I know how to do it, but it looks as though you need to add

Code:
options snd-cs4236 port=0x530 cport=0x538 isapnp=0 dma1=1 dma2=0 irq=5


mine 'snipped' is:-

Code:
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias usbdevfs usbcore
alias /dev/ppp ppp_generic
alias /dev/lp0 /dev/lp1 lp
alias char-major-116-* snd
options sb io=0x220 irq=7 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
install binfmt-0000 /bin/true
install char-major-10 /bin/true
install char-major-10-1 /bin/true
install dummy0 /sbin/modprobe -o dummy0 --ignore-install dummy


to edit ALSA manually: open /etc/modprobe.conf in geany

So I think you could add yours there [sequential placement]

tempestuous posted a new alsa package v1.0.12rc1 here, read carefully!

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=105470

Try editing the /etc/modprobe.conf first, then the new version, if it doesn't work

Are you sure you are creating a save on shutdown, i.e. are other [video/modem/wifi?] settings being saved?

Aitch Smile
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tempestuous

Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Fri 02 May 2008, 10:55    Post subject:  

It looks like Puppy automatically (and erroneously) loads the snd-cs46xx module at boot up, which is messing up the correct snd-cs4236 module.
I suggest you blacklist the snd-cs46xx module ... I don't know how to do this. Someone else will need to step in and help.
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HairyWill


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Posts: 2949
Location: Southampton, UK

PostPosted: Fri 02 May 2008, 11:42    Post subject:  

tempestuous wrote:
I suggest you blacklist the snd-cs46xx module ... I don't know how to do this. Someone else will need to step in and help.
Can you use the bootmanager on the system menu to do that? Or, do you need to muck about in rc.alsa?
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Aitch


Joined: 04 Apr 2007
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Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Fri 02 May 2008, 17:10    Post subject:  

I think I've seen somewhere

add rmmod snd-cs46xx to your rc.local file and reboot

then load the snd-cs4236 module in alsa wizard

please correct if I've remembered wrong, but I can't find it, maybe this was just for another module error, as I inserted the snd file references

Aitch
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Nomad


Joined: 27 May 2008
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Location: Lincolnshire, UK

PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2008, 15:41    Post subject: 600e sound
Subject description: getting Pup to make a 600e bark
 

Hi all, and a 'woof, woof' to all users. New to this forum, and no way an expert, but I have been messing around with various distros for a while and do love the pups.
I had the same trouble using a 2645 model 600e. Currently having a crack at Puppy 4.0, but it seems to be a problem across the board (Slax, Dynebolic, Zenlive, Goblin etc etc). Did a considerable amount of trawling about and came across this http://linux-laptop.net/hosted/thinkpad600e-fc4.html
After setting the Thinkpad's Quickboot to 'off', I loaded Puppy and repeated the process described in the above link. I got sound - not as much as I know the machine to be capable of, but a good start. On shutdown I pup-saved to the hard drive. On reloading, I still had sound - at the same level. Then I thought to run ALSA which set about and configured the CrystalFusion controller, reporting same successfully. No sound - till I looked at the volume control levels which appeared to have been muted in the process, and that was soon put right. I now have volume levels equal to those obtained running Mr Gates' OS. Pup-saved again at shutdown, and everything stayed ok on next boot.
I've since done a 'frugal' install, repeating all above - and it works, and subsequently tried a 'full' install to the drive which responds equally well to the process. Kudos to that Fedora user.
Nomad

ps the sound recording used to test the above was Albert Collins' 'The Moon Is Full'. No carpet tiles were harmed during the procedure.
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2008, 19:32    Post subject: Re: 600e sound
Subject description: getting Pup to make a 600e bark
 

Nomad wrote:
After setting the Thinkpad's Quickboot to 'off' ... I got sound

Just for the record, the "QuickBoot" bios setting has been discussed on the forum before -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=13699

"QuickBoot = OFF" is IBM-speak for "PnP OS = OFF" - it's a bios setting which allows hardware settings (IRQ, DMA, etc) which are bios-defined to be passed to the Linux kernel during bootup. This is often/usually a more reliable way to achieve hardware detection on older non-ACPI computers, especially those with ISA interfaces.

The IBM "QuickBoot" bios setting will be found on several ThinkPad models. The ones I know about are 600e, 600x, 770x.
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Aitch


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Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Tue 27 May 2008, 23:12    Post subject:  

@Nomad

Sound test file Wink Laughing

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O1WohReltuo

Quote:
No carpet tiles were harmed during the procedure.


Laughing Laughing

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AndyHunt

Joined: 13 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jun 2008, 04:51    Post subject: Thinkpad sound settings  

Thanks for all the suggestions. Just after I'd posted the original query about the soundcard I installed Puppy 4 - now I can get no sound at all out of the thinkpad.

I've since bought myself an EEEPC and am puppying that. As yet I haven't managed to mess up the sound on that.

Thanks for the help.

Andy
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