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Minisys-Linux Muppy 008.3 F (July, 12th, 2008)
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Barburo


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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jun 2008, 16:22    Post subject:  

Hi Mark,
Is there anything in Muppy 008.3e standard for scanning?
I couldn't find anything. I have an Epson Stylus CX4800 scanner/printer that I have got working successfully on other puppies.
I tried both of ttuuxxx's packages:
Quote:
One package has iscan( iscan
Image Scan--Proprietary Software for Epson Scanners) and the other doesn't.
libgphoto 2.2.4.1
sane 1.0.19
sane backend 1.0.19.10
xsane 0.994
iscan 2.10

iscan included
http://www.puppylinux.ca/ttuuxxx/programs/office/X-sane-iscan.pet

No iscan
http://www.puppylinux.ca/ttuuxxx/programs/office/X-sane-Scanner.pet


I can launch the xaneshell dialog and I get to where it asks do I have a parallel or USB connection. It then quits - nothing happens.
Any suggestions?
Thanks, B.

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MU


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PostPosted: Tue 24 Jun 2008, 16:51    Post subject:  

accessdenied wrote:
Hi MU,
I don't have/see that menu entry under 'desktop' even after 2 installs. Sad

I did notice the .pet install mention something in the line of 'there is no menu entry for this' afterwards. Confused

-cheers


Can you run icewinconfigure from the comandline?

Barburo wrote:
Hi Mark,
Is there anything in Muppy 008.3e standard for scanning?


I never tried scanning, and have no experience with this, I'm sorry Sad
Mark

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jun 2008, 11:53    Post subject:  

to give you more choice concerning desktops/panels, I rewrote muppywmchooser:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=209914#209914

It now is far more complex than the old simple choice among jwm/icewm.
This is a first testrelease, so please tell me in that thread, how it works for you.
Mark

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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun 2008, 09:07    Post subject:  

Nvidia users attention:
I could test the installer for the propriatary Nvidiadriver included in Muppy.
Using a Nvidia 6800 onboard-graficscard.
The installer had a bug and did not work correct, the attached patch fixes this, and will be added in 0083f.

Mark

README:

If you want to install the propriatary Nvidia-driver, and it fails:

Exit X if it already runs, and type at the black screen:
xorgwizard

Choose Xorg, and the desired resolution.
If X then gives you just a black screen, hit CTRL-ALT-Backspace to go back to textmode.
type again:
xorgwizard
Now choose Xvesa.
Now X should start.

Install Nvidiapatch-Muppy0083e.pet
Restart X, and when you are offered in the green dialog to install the Nvidia-driver, confirm this.
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accessdenied

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Jun 2008, 09:46    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
accessdenied wrote:
Hi MU,
I don't have/see that menu entry under 'desktop' even after 2 installs. Sad

I did notice the .pet install mention something in the line of 'there is no menu entry for this' afterwards. Confused

-cheers


Can you run icewinconfigure from the comandline?



Hi MU, unfortunately running the icewinconfigure from the cmd line results in a 'command not found'
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drbongo

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jul 2008, 13:57    Post subject:  Muppy and Dual Core Processors  

I am very impressed with Muppy, in my opinion it is the most developed of the main puplets and adds a great deal of flexibility by having multiple versions and extentions etc.

The only question I have is about dual core processors - it runs fine but a lot slower than with a dual core kernel as used in the alternative Puppy Dingo using the newer kernel.

Is there any straight-forward way of adding a module to the kernel etc?

drbongo
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Astro


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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008, 18:06    Post subject: 008.3 MINI doesn't detect hard drives / partitions  

I downloaded 008.3 MINI and addons.sfs intending to create a save file on the hard drive and subsequently use the .sfs as explained: http://minisys-linux.de/EN/f2.html#useaddons

PROBLEM:
The CD boots into GUI OK, but seems not to detect hard drive partitions. MUTT shows hard drive names, but no partitions. HotPlug desktop icons (set to all) shows floppy disk drive, and there is one other icon labeled CDROM which refers to the CD-Writer holding the Muppy system disk.

Gparted finds no drives to work with. Neither PMount, Xproc-System information, etc.

When I shutdown and ask to save file, the response is "no suitable partitions available".

SYSTEM:
PIII / 746 MHz Processor / 384 Mb RAM
Floppy / CDROM / CDRW / 2 hard drives partitioned like this:

. . . hde1 - vfat
. . . hde2 - vfat
. . . linux SWAP

. . . hdf1 - ext3
. . . hdf3 - ext2
. . . hdf4 - vfat
. . . hdf2 { extended }
. . . . . . . . . hdf5 - vfat
. . . . . . . . . hdf6 - vfat

I have searched the forum, and Googled, without success. Can you advise what might be my next steps to solve this?

I'm a first time forum poster, currently Multi booting alongside windows, training myself to see if I can make a full transition to Linux, so appreciate very much Puppy community's outlook to make this easier for people like me. Thanks to developers and supporters for their work, dedication, friendliness, and sense of humour.

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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008, 20:44    Post subject:  

" Thanks to developers and supporters for their work,
dedication, friendliness, and sense of humour. "

Sense of humour ends now.

I use Muppy Standard quite often.

Just out of interest...2 drives.
Do they show up in the Bios.

Open the case and take the power cable off one,
boot up Muppy and see what happens.

See if one drive appears.

If not try this.

They are probably IDE drives.

Pull each drive out and make each one a master so they show up
in the bios as Master and Secondary Master.
And make sure your CD Rom is set as slave.

You could of course make hard drive Master and
the other one set as Slave, but that should be unecessary.

Because quite possibly they are set as cable select.

If is not immediatly apparent what pin to use....before
fiddling around.....mark where the original pins are...
with Fine Marker etc...so you can put Humpty back together easily.

Better answers than mine will no doubt voice their opinion.

Chris.
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008, 21:57    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
...2 drives. Do they show up in the Bios.

...They are probably IDE drives.
Thanks Chris, welcome your input.

BIOS shows drives. Yes, both IDE

Both Windows and 2 Linux hard drive installs are recognizing the partitions properly, as well as all live CDs I have used up until now.

Cables and Master Slave relationships seem ship shape.

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Sense of humour ends now
Somehow I see you as still smiling mate.
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008, 22:08    Post subject:  

drbongo
I think a new kernel would be needed, with all consequences (recompilation of all Kernelmodules).
I currently hesitate in doing this, as Muppys Kernel has proven to be very reliable.
Muppy IS slower than Dingo, simply because it is much larger.
On a AMD 3800 (2x1900Mhz) Dualcore-CPU using only one core, Muppy flies.
OpenOffice writer starts in 3 seconds.
As most dual core processors have high frequencies, it should fly on most of them.
If Muppy runs slow on such a computer, there must be something else wrong I think.
I that case, we would need more info about the hardware and setup, to get an idea, where things could be optimized.

Astro

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Jul 2008, 22:26    Post subject:  

ah I know...
there is no /dev/hde !

All the nodes miss.
I attach a script.
Please extract it in /usr/local/bin

Then type in a consolewindow:
addhddrivenodes

Then restart X.
Now you should see the driveicons, or at least see the drives in the drivemounter.

The script creates nodes for hde , hde1 to hde10, and hdf, hdf1 to hdf10.

Mark
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jul 2008, 04:32    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
I attach a script.
Please extract it in /usr/local/bin

Then type in a consolewindow: addhddrivenodes

Then restart X.
Now you should see the driveicons, or at least see the drives in the drivemounter.

The script creates nodes for hde , hde1 to hde10, and hdf, hdf1 to hdf10.
Thank you MU,

Your instructions worked. All the hard drive's partions showed up on desktop, and functioned in MUTT as well. I therefore went ahead and made network set-ups and other configurations, Then when closing I wished to save the configurations to one of the vfat partitions, so I followed the instructions during shutdown. After later adding the extension file to the same location, I end with the following files on the root of the chosen vfat partition:

msy_save-muppymini.2sf (per the request I added "muppymini")
zmsy_083.sfs
msy_083.sfs
addons-EN_083.sfs

PROBLEM:
After rebooting with the minisys 008.3 CD, it does not refer to the files on the hard drive, but behaves as before, not recognizing the partitions. Perhaps I have made an error. How can get the script you kindly sent me to persist?

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jul 2008, 09:37    Post subject:  

ok, the nodes also must be added to initrd.gz.
This just could be done, if you would have a frugal installation, booted with grub.

To boot from CD, you need an updated ISO.
I'll upload 0083f in some hours, it will include the required fix.
For those with a frugal install, here is the updated initrd.gz for 0083e:
ftp://ks301128.kimsufi.com/Muppy0083/Updates/Muppy0083e/

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jul 2008, 13:36    Post subject:  

I uploaded 008.3F

Changes:

- some general bugfixes like for Nvidia-installer

- minisys upgraded to final version

- added fluxbox, openbox, lxpanel + Desktop Environment switcher
You now can use different combinations of Windowmanagers/Panels, even Icewm without additional panel.
Note, that everything except Icewm+Muppypanel is not optimized, so you might find smaller irregularities.
This shall be enhanced in future.

- support for additional harddrives: hde1-10, hdf1-10, sdb 9-15, sdc 9-15

- added hpijs-2.8.5 (additional Hewlett-Packard printerdrivers)

- amsn upgraded to 0.97.1
This was required, because the MSN Chatprotocol changed.

- Tcl/Tk upgraded to 8.5.3
required for amsn

- Pidgin updated to 2.4.3
This was required, because ICQ changed the Chatprotocol.

- added remastermuppy, a remasterscript from Puppy 2.14R, adapted by GW, sent by tlchost.
This is untested by me, but looks great, so I added it already (not in Embryo/Server).

- the freemem display in Muppypanel no longer blocks the panel, when there are mount errors.
This happened before, when you mounted a Samba-share, but then the remote-computer disconnected.
This has a very bad effect on your system, slowing things down.
The freemem now detects this, and pops up an alert, that requests you to reboot your computer.

- the Standard was renamed to "Live".
This indicates, that it is intended only as Live-CD (or for full installation).
It now will include an empty zmsy_083.sfs, because its presence is needed to be able install to a USB-Stick.

- Muppy-Server now runs a security-wizard at startup, to set root-password and other settings.

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008.3F is intended to be the last 008.3 version.
It is very stable now, so that we will recommend it to people, who prefer a very reliable and tested system.


In some weeks 0084 will follow, where the first releases might be less stable.
The reason is, that we upgrade all "huge" packages like Gtk2, Java, Wine, Browsers etc.
These then were not tested over a longer period, and so might contain unforeseen bugs.

Mark

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jul 2008, 15:52    Post subject:  

MU wrote:
I'm currently uploading 008.3F
- the Standard will be renamed to "Live".
This indicates, that it is intended only as Live-CD (or for full installation).
It now will include an empty zmsy_083.sfs, because its presence is needed to be able install to a USB-Stick.


Hopefully the remaster script will not get confused....
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