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albert.tong
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Puppy universal installer bug

#46 Post by albert.tong »

First post here, I came across Puppy 3.01 and now uses it regularly on my ancient IBM Thinkpad 235 (with Wifi!) and have been very very impressed.

Have been using a Thinkpad T60 to test Dingo Beta 1 and Beta 2 Live-CDs and the same bug occurred when I tried Frugal install to a SanDisk 256Mb CF card connected via a PCMCIA adapter (to use on the Thinkpad 235 since it doesn't have a bootable CD-rom drive):

Selected "Internal IDE/SATA Flash drive" option in Universal Installer and followed the windows until the one that says "Press OK button to install Puppy (note, there will be one or two more dialog windows before you have to commit to the actual install)...", pressed OK, windows disappears and the process ends. I have been doing the same with 3.01 and it works everytime.

On the other hand, there was a bug in Ayttm in Beta 1, it did not show any chat services and this has been fixed in Beta 2. :)

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#47 Post by HairyWill »

Pwireless chokes on a couple APs near me whose SSID="<hidden>" the angle brackets cause gtkdialog to crash and the program keeps looping for a minute or 2 until one of the scans doesn't pick up those APs.

I see two areas for action from this.
1) Handle an ESSID of <hidden>
2) If there is a risk of gtkdialog crashing then it is not safe to keep looping if the EXIT variable is not set.

It is probably best to guard against any ESSID with an angle bracket in it. Replacing line 149 with this should do the job

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ESSID2=`echo "$ESSID" | sed 's/\"//g;s/</\\\</g;s/>/\\\>/g'`
The display isn't pretty as gtkdialog displays a backslash but it should be safe. Obviously this will cause a problem if you want to connect to the hidden AP but I don't think you would be using Pwireless to do that anyway. I can't see a good reason for having a hidden ESSID. I tried using proper xml replacements for the brackets but gtkdialog just displayed the raw entity code.

Using the network wizard to connect my ipw2200 wep wireless I have found that the first time I click "use this profile" it reports failed to connect, the second time, it works. I haven't tested whether it has really failed to connect or whether it is a bug in the testing of the connection.

On the plus side the other half's Inspiron 630m now boots without having to specify acpi=off, the widescreen and battery monitor work out of the box. It has been a while since I tried this so I presume that the acpi stuff was fixed in the revision that lead to this kernel. It boots in under 35 seconds from USB stick.
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Wifi problems

#48 Post by barriew »

My wifi card uses the zd1211rw driver which is loaded correctly by Dingo beta2. Booting directly from the CD, I can use the Network Wizard to set up the card, get an IP and connect to the internet.
However, with either a Frugal or Full disk installation I have problems.
Using the Network Wizard, ‘scan for networks’ then ‘use’ comes back with unable to connect, but if I try Test Eth1 I get ‘Puppy was able to find…’ Auto DHCP gives Network Configuration of eth1 successful’, but I don’t actually have connectivity.
Trying Pwireless scanner does find my network, and reports the eth1 IP as 169.254.20.85. Hitting Connect gives me the IP I expected 192.168.0.3 and I can connect to the internet.
If I reboot, I again have no connectivity, Pwireless shows eth1 with a different IP, but after hitting Connect, I get online again.

The IP I get initially from Pwireless seems to be in the 169.254 range, but not the same each time.

I need to take advantage of our improving weather :) , so will try the Puppy 3.01 wizard some other time.

Barrie

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#49 Post by BarryK »

NathanO wrote:Would like the 'chat' to default to IRC #puppylinux like the 3.0x series for new users, just have it prompt for a screen name.
Ah, someone will have to work out how to pre-configure Ayttm to do that, and with a auto-generated username probably, like we had back in Gaim.
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#50 Post by BarryK »

GeoW wrote:oli,

I am in Dingo Beta 2 now. but I don't use pppoe-start.

I have a real file /etc/resolv.conf

so pehhaps your solution for NewBs would be to
copy this file before you run pppoe-start
and then restore it afterwards?

HTH,

GeoW
Yes, perhaps you could cook up a little wrapper script that does that, and restores everything as-is afterward. Need to be careful about changing the arrangement of /etc/rsolv.conf as it may mess up wvdial or something else, so a wrapper for rp-pppoe would be good.
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beta2

#51 Post by gray »

I had no problem connecting to the internet with my acx100 based wireless NIC, but like Barriew the CUPS setup does not give the smb option. Also had Seamucky crash a time or two when scrolling long html pages. At 1600x1200 resolution the hotpup device icons are partially hidden by the taskbar. Other than that things are working good :D

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Firefox's window larger than Seamonkey!

#52 Post by Tui »

I am just adding my additional progs to the Dingo Beta2, and I like Firefox
with it's add-ons. One such is the weather conditions, I use a screen
res of 800x600 and the weather info is lost below the bottom task bar.

I then reset the res at 1024x768 and that just shows a bit of the weather
info above the task bar.

Seamonkey on both res tests is ok , but no good for my weather info.
So what file do I change to fix this problem.? - help help .

Tui

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#53 Post by HairyWill »

If I boot with pfix=ram and use Xvesa I don't see the first boot help message at the top of the screen and hotpup doesn't start until I restart X.
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#54 Post by capoverde »

Thanks Will, I posted this bug too, but forgot to mention the "pfix=ram" condition.

This other one isn't a real bug and actually happened in previous Puppies, too: when setting the time and/or date, the pop-up message warning that the screen might turn black appears *after* it has already blackened and come back to life -- the faint-hearted aren't actually protected. :shock:

Just as with previous versions of GXine, .MOV (Quicktime) videos have jumping audio while Mplayer runs fine. Doesn't resize, though.

The new PETget package manager is very effective, the category choice and the new look are just great. The immediate action to connect and load a package was a bit of a surprise, as the old way had one more step! Quite impressive.

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#55 Post by oli »

@GeoW and Barry:

After I run pppoe-setup there is a file /etc/resolv.conf . But it is empty. That's why a newbie cannot connect to the internet with wired dsl (he needs the /etc/resolv.conf from an older Puppy version). So wrapping is not the solution to the problem.

Perhaps GeoW can post how he connects to the internet.

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#56 Post by GeoW »

oli,

I have wires, but they connect to a LinkSys router which
then connects to a cable modem ( Optimum Online ).

When I enter Puppy before the first save file I do the
following to get onto the internet.

Click the connect icon - set up a firewall - take all the defaults

Click connect again - choose connect by network interface,
auto dhcp, I just follow the instructions.

In my previous post, I was hoping that there was information
in your resolv-conf file that could be saved before you ran
pppoe-start and then restored afterwards.

However, I am very new at all this and there is a very good
chance I did not sufficiently understand the problem.

I hope this helps anyway,

GeoW

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#57 Post by oli »

Hello GeoW,
thank you for your answer. But as I wrote the problem is "without a router". So the problem is still unsolved.

In the meantime I know from some other (German) users who have the same problem. One of them told me that the problem occured in Puppy 3.01 or 3.1 the first time (I didn't checked this).

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#58 Post by Béèm »

BarryK wrote:
NathanO wrote:Would like the 'chat' to default to IRC #puppylinux like the 3.0x series for new users, just have it prompt for a screen name.
Ah, someone will have to work out how to pre-configure Ayttm to do that, and with a auto-generated username probably, like we had back in Gaim.
Do these auto generated user names have a common password?
I use one of these still from the time of GAIM and get issues as I can't register this userid due to the absence of a password.
However I can go into the puppy channel with Pidgin, ayttm with it.
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#59 Post by HairyWill »

rdesktop keeps segfaulting on me
I have tried the version in the puppy3 repository and then tried compiling 1.5.0 from source. Both show the same behaviour. It seems to be related to specific actions on the remote desktop, I think it is happening every time I try to select an open folder from the taskbar on the remote machine.

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# ldd rdesktop
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
        libcrypto.so.0.9.8 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 (0xb7dfd000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7d2c000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7c31000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7c2d000)
        libXau.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7c2a000)
        libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/X11R7/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7c24000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f02000)
It still works fine using variants of puppy3. I didn't test rdesktop in earlier versions of dingo as I've only just worked out how to get the vpn working properly.
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Feedback on wireless by new tester of wireless

#60 Post by rerwin »

After avoiding wireless while others sort out the details, I have now tested a few old adapters with my router. I normally run with wireless disabled, to preserve security for telecommuting. I find that the "wireless wizard" is more of a control panel than wizard, as it leaves one to guess what to do to get started. I stumbled upon the following procedure to join my existing home network:

1. On a wired ethernet-connected Puppy PC, I accessed the router (browsing to its IP address, 192.168.0.1) and enabled wireless and SSID broadcasting, but left encryption disabled (for now).

2. On the test PC, containing an unused PCI NIC and a wireless adapter and booted with pfix=ram, (and on a Thinkpad) got to the Puppy Network Wizard, selected the wireless device (eth1, wlan0, ath0), then pressed the "wireless" button.

3. Received a notification that only WEP encryption is supported for the drivers I used; clicked OK.

4. On the wireless-specific Puppy Network Wizard dialog, I clicked the "scan" button and received dialog box with my router's SSID listed and selected; clicked OK.

5. Upon return to the previous dialog box, my router information was set into the current profile fields, with the SSID used as the profile name.

6. After clicking on the "advanced" button, I saw that the router's channel and MAC address were also in the profile. I clicked on the "save" button and was told that the profile-save occurred.

7. After clicking on "Use this profile", I was returned to the main wizard dialog box and notified that "Puupy was able to find a live network."

8. After clicking on "auto DHCP", I was notified that the connection was successful! I clicked "yes" to save the configuration, then "done".

9. I verified all was well by checking ifconfig and iwconfig in console and then browsed to the Pupppy Community News page to verify I could get online.

10. I subsequently discovered that if the SSID broadcasting is left enabled, a reboot reconnects automatically. But if broadcasting is disabled the interface is not set up at all. However, loading the previously saved profile and clicking "Use this profile" does result in a live connection to the router that is also successful with "autoDHCP".

Since I have not seen this setup sequence mentioned anywhere one would expect (help, wiki, HowTo forum), I suggest this be considered for a sub-wizard for an option to "Join an existing wireless network". I have no experience with public hotspots, so there is probably more to be considered for this procedure, or for another option to "connect to public hotspot."

Using the above technique, I tested five adapters under P4B2, with the following results:
1. D-Link DWL-122 (USB, prism2_usb): successful. (Also successful under 3.01)
2. D-Link DWL-520 rev E (PCI, prism2_pci): Not detected as "wireless"; after modifying two tests in net-setup.sh where the prism2_usb driver is handled (adding prism2_pci to the tests), the adapter got various errors, so would not work. Maybe the modifications were inadequate or the hardware is defective -- I plan to explore that later. EDIT 4/25: Maybe this is impacted by the firmware issue mentioned elsewhere by tempestuous regarding the new kernel.
3. SMC SMCWUSB-G (USB, zd1211rw): Scan successful but "Use this profile" resulted in "Unable to connect to a wireless network". /var/log/messages showed an error: "zd_chip_control_leds error -110". Whatever that implies.
4. D-Link DWL-650 rev M1 (Cardbus, r8180): successful.
5. SMC SMCWCB-G (Cardbus, ath_pci): successful.

I would like to experiment with an ad-hoc network, but the wizard does not appear to support that, despite showing it as an option (that gets forced back to "managed" when toggling between "advanced" and "basic" in a new/unsaved profile). So we may want a sub-wizard to set that up. (And where does the "master" mode fit in?)

Regarding improving the wizard, I am willing to work with others to polish the human-interface aspect of it, with more walk-throughs. Maybe we need a new "project" thread to work together on.

Puppy just gets better and better, thanks to our development community!
Richard
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#61 Post by HairyWill »

glade-3.desktop has an incorrect icon entry
It is missing the .png file extension. In addition the icon's current location at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps is not in the jwm icon path.

either
the desktop file needs the full icon path
or
the icon needs to be copied somewhere in the icon path
or
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps needs adding to the icon path in /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc

I notice that $HOME/.icons has been removed from the icon path. Surely this is a sensible place to encourage users to customise their icons.

/bin/vi
Please change this so that it actually invokes some sort of editor. So that when you click on a text file in rox that doesn't have a defined mime handler you actually get to see the contents of the file. Obviously this mechanism needs to be sensitive to the fact that X may not be running when vi is called.
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#62 Post by Feverfew »

Hi. In the first help screen the screen-caps are still "Citrus Themed"

so here's some new ones. y'all have good day.
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New partition/drive icons omit DVDROM

#63 Post by rerwin »

I have added a Lite-On Combo SOHC-5232K DVD-ROM/CDRW drive as slave, to the master Lite-On DVDRW LDW 851S. Those are the names Pmount displays for them, as hdd and hdc, respectively.

The only DVD device in /dev is "DVD", which seems vague. Should there also be a DVDROM, at least (since CD/RWs are linked as "CDROM")? The icons include only one "DVD", linked to hdc.

I plan to use the new drive for on-the-fly copying of video DVDs. I assume pburn can handle that. It does show both hdc and hdd as a candidate devices.

Also, and I think it has already been reported, if you use a hard-drive icon to mount an NTFS partition, you cannot write to the partition, even though there are indications that it is mounted read-write. Using Pmount instead does permit writing to it.
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read / write from home icon

#64 Post by GeoW »

rerwin,

This is just to add to the data to help in solving the problem
you described.

>Also, and I think it has already been reported, if you use a
>hard-drive icon to mount an NTFS partition, you cannot write
>to the partition, even though there are indications that it is
>mounted read-write. Using Pmount instead does permit writing to it.

After reading your post I did the following:
1. Clicked on the home icon
2. Opened menu.lst and changed the default, closed & saved
3. Reboot - went to the new selection

I am running off a single 16G NTFS HD.

This seems to conflict with your data. Perhaps the fact that it is
my boot disk is saving me. Beats me.

Hope this helps someone.

GeoW

EDIT

I later realized that this was not a good test because my home
directory was already mounted before I clicked on the icon.

I reran the test after booting with pfix=ram - same result.

The one remaining difference is that rerwin refers to an NTFS
partition while I have an NTFS disk. I cannot check that.

No -that is not true. Since I am running a frugal install off the
hard disk, it has been opened during the boot process even
though the icon indicates it is not currently open.

I would need to burn a cd and boot from that to test this aspect.

GeoW
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#65 Post by HairyWill »

If I set the boot manager to do "super fast boot" my sound system comes up with the pcm channel zeroed and muted.

I have confirmed this is not caused by absvolume.

Starting sgmixer re-enables the sound. I was curious why

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# sgmixer --help
Usage: sgmixer [--minimized] [--read-from-mixer]
  --minimized        start minimized
  --read-from-mixer  read channel settings from mixer, not from config
sgmixer stores its own version of the sound channel state and reads this by default on startup. This is helpful for fixing the above problem but could be considered irritating if you had used a different mixer to make sound adjustments.

Whilst I appreciate that "super fast boot" is probably going to have issues in some cases the warning that it gives just concerns changing hardware. This might be a hard one for some people to track down if they can't make the connection.

Super fast boot doesn't seem to save more than a couple of seconds on my laptop so I wonder if it is worth the grief.
Does anyone else have a similar problem?
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