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ttuuxxx


Joined: 05 May 2007
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 05:03    Post subject:  

Hi guys I dropped 302 and 5.0
and so my plate is clear
I'm on my way out but quickly I'll explain what I need

which puppy version should it be based on
4.0 4.1 4.12
4.12 seems to have a few issues

Gnome Sword or kde bibletime ?

VLC or Gxine

plus which applications would you like to see

I'll work on ttuuxxx tv tomorrow

It will be icewm as the window manager and Firefox 3 series that I'll optimize for puppy.

ttuuxxx

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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 11:48    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx,

Glad that you're focusing on this update, however, I hope that you will continue on 5 and help on 4.2.

My preference is a full KDE and Bibletime with the ability to switch between KDE and icewm. Most computers today can easily handle the KDE environment, even my 5-year old clunker.

Thank you for all the help that you continue to give us puppy users.

JIm
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bill

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 13:27    Post subject: Various Puplets  

Post from Jim:

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Thank you for all the help that you continue to give us puppy users.

Hello ttuuxxx,Let me echo what JIm posted previously.your counsel ,to me and various users on this forum have been a great help in understanding the Puppy operating system helping new users find their way around.Some of it answered my questions and some of it left me with more questions. Laughing but I submit this is all part of the learning curve..

I guess I would ask "Exactly what IS a "operating system" ? To me it is simply a base foundation where upon a user adds a few applications that allows him/her to work in areas that are of need or interest to each user specifically.Once this happens ,I am lost in trying to figure out anything else it should do.Each user has their own likes or dislikes of any Puppy Distro but while auditing many of the Puplets various users have submitted I have to say,some are very clever but on the whole,all are still somewhat incomplete because whatever problem a user encounters in one Puplet,more than likely,they will have the same
problems in another Puplet.This to me is the crux of where you gurus should make your additions (education and applications),if of course you have the interest and desire. Then I say ,let the user modify,add,delete whatever they so choose.Then if they can post up a Puplet that suits others,the I say this is fine business.
I suppose in the end I would have to make this statement and it goes something like this "Give a man fish and he can feed his family for a day,but TEACH a man to fish,and he can feed his family indefinitely" Thanks,bill


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rjbrewer


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 14:15    Post subject:  

INDEFINITELY?

Teach man to fish; in a few centuries the "living" waters will be dead.
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bill

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 14:25    Post subject:  

ha ha rjbrewer,This of course depends on exactly how much tenure each of us have left on that fishing hole. Laughing cheers
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 14:40    Post subject:  

Even some of us cynical heathens are hoping for an
eternal trout stream "up-yonder".


Happy New Year
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Subito Piano


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 14:46    Post subject:  

My two cents -- FWIW!

AMEN regarding thanks for all you give, ttuxxx. (5?? I don't even know about "5" - i assume it's Puppy 5.)

Bill - yes about teaching a man to fish...BUT there are a lot of frustrated people who want something better than Windoze, yet simply don't have time to learn how to configure everything. "Just give me something that works out-of-the-box!!!" I guess that means that ideally, we should have several distros/puplets available that are drop-in Windoze replacements, with appropriate software prepackaged, (As an example, i just configured OpenOffice for a friend so that everything automatically saves in MS formats -- before i did that, the program was useless to his family. His girls couldn't take their work to school to work on or print b/c they didn't know enough about saving with the correct extensions.) Yeah, this is my soapbox with Linux distros -- some HAVE to be quite intuitive to the MS crowd or they feel forced to always stick with a frustrating OS from Redmond.

Ttuuxxx--i prefer BibleTime but that's just me -- it seems easier to reference to the Strong's lexicons. Which causes less headaches for you to include? TtuxxTV is great - but i don't use it (wish i could get PBS on the computer, i don't use television). For the rest of you proposed choices -- i'd stick first with rock-solid reliability and secondly with user-friendliness. Which version to base it on? I'm not sure of all the differences, but i thought 4.1 was better than 4.0. Oh -- does Gxine include all the codecs like VLC? Lastly, don't kill yourself and your family time!! Shocked
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bill

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 16:10    Post subject:  

Hello Subito Piano,Thanks for your post.Personally I feel there is already an operating system as good as M$ and it is Puppy. The main difference I see is simply what you spoke of considering how the young ladies could have portability of files to a system that has held a mortal lock on all computers for a long time.What I am suggesting is nothing more than a few apps that can convert a rpm2pet or deb2pet etc. etc for ease of installing apps that a new user might require.I can't envision a software that can be all things to all people but these routines could help a new user become more empowered to learn new things.Even M$ has a learning curve.I would believe this would simply be a starting point for a new user,the rest would be entirely up to them.Oh ! and by the way,your two cents is as of equal value as anyones . Wink cheers
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan 2009, 19:09    Post subject:  

ok guys from your responses I take it will be bibletime, and which version of puppy? 4.0, 4.1, 4.12 ?
ttuuxxx

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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 00:25    Post subject:  

I vote for 4.1.2 or better yet the latest based on kernal 2.6.27.5

Jim
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Evil20071


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 00:53    Post subject:  

4.0 with Kernel update to current version.
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Aronzak

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 01:00    Post subject:  

VLC should be fine, but I'd heard that the Windows version could be illegal in the US (dvd css thing?). I don't think libdvdcss2 is bundled in the Linux version...

Are you going to move any discussions to your own forum?
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bill

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 07:40    Post subject:  

I would say 412 because the only issue I have had with it,is the loose screw on the keyboard . Very Happy cheers
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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2009, 07:47    Post subject:  

I haven't tried 4.12 yet just 4.1 Gxine in 4.1 is really buggy is it the same in 4.12? I was thinking of keeping it as a backup, But if its buggy its out-of-here. like if you leave a space at the end of a url stream by accident, it freezes then you have to kill it, but it stays running so then you have to run Pprocess and manually kill it
try this link and include a space at the end of the url before hitting enter for 4.12 users.

rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra

I also need urls or websites, I can manually find them for the online streams for ttuuxxx TV, I have a few new ones. But more the better I guess Smile
also for now I'll keep using this thread, once I get a tester going I'll make a new one
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Jan 2009, 09:00    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx
I love Living water, Thanks for all your hard work.
For a URL how about Amazingfacts.org ?
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