How to have a graphical GRUB (Updated Package Available)

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CatDude · #121 Post by **CatDude** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 10:04

Hello

@ vellowax
I downloaded the package you attached above grub-0.97-patched1_ext4-p4.pet
just so i could take a look at what it contains.

I am sorry to say, but it does not support the GRUB gfxmenu,
judging by it's name, i would say it is just a patched version giving support for ext4 partitions.

So, no fancy boot screens with that fella i'm afraid,
but read the rest of this post, as i have found something that may be just what you need.

@ Roger Hunter
The link i provided in an earlier post to you,
explains how to check the inode size of your partitions.
Although where it suggests booting off the Puppy Live CD, if you can boot into one of the other Puppies you have installed
you could run the command from that (so long as the Macpup partition is NOT mounted) and check it.
Before you go doing any more reformatting of your partitions, please have a look at this: Legacy GRUB with support for ext4 partitions

CatDude
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Roger Hunter · #122 Post by **Roger Hunter** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 16:48

CatDude;

Sad to say, no matter how clear your directions are, someone will screw it up.

Me, in this case.

I followed your directions (I thought) but puppy boots without the gfxmenu in menu.lst and the various versions fail too.

I'm sure it's my fault but I don't know why.

Roger

mikeb · #123 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 17:07

For those who love grub4dos gfxmenu will work on it too...plus ext4 and 246 inodes
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/gfxmenu.htm
note...needs 0.4.4 the latest version...

I assume building the menu will be the same and add the gfxmenu line to menu.lst.....I'm off to test.

Yep that works...although that page mentions a custom version I tested with catdudes

...by the way 'esc' returns to the non graphical version if editing is needed.

If any of this is repeated info then I blame the long thread

It's all very tarty...

mike

Roger Hunter · #124 Post by **Roger Hunter** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 17:55

CatDude;

OK, nearly got it.

Everything boots now. Puppy is very sensitive about hda vs sda.

But no graphics menu. I get a "file not found" error even though pupsta1 IS in boot/grub.

Roger

CatDude · #125 Post by **CatDude** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 19:03

Hello Roger

Roger Hunter wrote: .......but puppy boots without the gfxmenu in menu.lst.....

If i understand you correctly,
it sounds like you need to edit your menu.lst
to something like below:

Code: Select all

# Start GRUB global section
timeout 15
default 3
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
gfxmenu /boot/grub/pupsta1
# End GRUB global section

Just change timeout and default to your own preference.

Other than that, i can't really say what is wrong.

Roger Hunter wrote: OK, nearly got it.

Everything boots now. Puppy is very sensitive about hda vs sda.

But no graphics menu. I get a "file not found" error even though pupsta1 IS in boot/grub.

Yeah, it depends what Puppy version (kernel) you are trying to boot
as to whether you need to put hda or sda.
If you boot up using a Puppy LiveCD and look at either the drive icons on the desktop,
or open Pmount, whatever the drives are described as is what you should use in your menu.lst (for that particular Puppy)

Could you please Copy & Paste
the contents of your menu.lst

P.S
Apologies for the delay in replying,
but the forum is taking such a long time to load it is barely usable.

CatDude
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mikeb · #126 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 22:01

but the forum is taking such a long time to load it is barely usable

I hadn't noticed

like wading through cold porridge in spikey boots...

mike

Roger Hunter · #127 Post by **Roger Hunter** » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 23:30

CatDude;

I'm in Win XP at the moment but that's exactly what my menu.lst says.

I don't know why it can't see it.

-I- can see it!

Roger

Roger Hunter · #128 Post by **Roger Hunter** » Thu 10 Dec 2009, 21:03

CatDude;

AT LAST!

It works like a charm and as I thought, the problem was my fault.

After reinstalling grub, instead of editing the menu.lst files as you said, I was deleting the new menu.lst and renaming the previous version, then editing in the line or two at the top.

Clearly, this was wrong. But why?

What's so special about the new menu.lst file?

Roger

CatDude · #129 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 12:03

Hi

Once again, apologies for the delay in responding,
but as i said on wednesday, the forum has been playing up (very slow loading pages)
in fact most times it never completely finished loading the page

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@ mikeb

mikeb wrote: It's all very tarty...

Whatever do you mean young sir.

@ Roger

Roger Hunter wrote: It works like a charm and as I thought, the problem was my fault.

That's good to hear, congratulations.
Have you tried booting partitions of various formats and inode sizes ?

Roger Hunter wrote: What's so special about the new menu.lst file?

Nothing as far as i know,
i just suggest to leave the top 6 or so lines as they are (in the new menu.lst)
as they give the date the menu.lst was generated, and tell you how to restore the MBR if necessary.

CatDude
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mikeb · #130 Post by **mikeb** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 13:17

Whatever do you mean young sir.

tarty = lush boot menus....and I like the 'young' bit

And with the simplicity of grub4dos one is free to focus on making kool menus

....good timing as I need to impress the local world soon so starting with an 'oooo' is a good move

regards

mike

ps---thanks for the simple instructions included in there.
pps--- that link I gave said the timeout and defauilt do not work but they do...must have been an early version.

CatDude · #131 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 15:12

Hello mike

mikeb wrote: tarty = lush boot menus....

That's OK then

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mikeb wrote: ...and I like the 'young' bit

You're most welcome.

mikeb wrote: And with the simplicity of grub4dos one is free to focus on making kool menus ....good timing as I need to impress the local world soon so starting with an 'oooo' is a good move

I must admit, i have never used grub4dos,
as to the 'oooo' being a good move, i have to agree with you,
if i had to choose from the images below (just a few examples), my choice most certainly would not be boring.png

mikeb wrote: ps---thanks for the simple instructions included in there.

Once again, you are welcome

CatDude
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mikeb · #132 Post by **mikeb** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 17:43

Customised and implemented...that was easy

grub4dos.....grldr to root of partition..standard menu.lst in same place
bootlace.com /dev/sda to install to mbr....done

mike

CatDude · #133 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 19:02

Hello mike

mikeb wrote: Customised and implemented...that was easy

Cool, i did say:

CatDude wrote: So if you fancy creating your own message file, (which isn't as difficult as you may think.)

and you have proved that to be the case, thankyou.

I have been toying with the idea of starting a new thread in the Eye Candy section,
just for GRUB message files, what do you think ?

Your slash.png screenshot looks very nice.

CatDude
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mikeb · #134 Post by **mikeb** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 20:05

I like the yosemite one.

I have been toying with the idea of starting a new thread in the Eye Candy section,
just for GRUB message files, what do you think ?

And why not

...especially as this thread is for the techinical site rather than the arty tarty stuff.

Certainly it compliments the use of a splash image during the system boot up...indeed using the same image for both would give a seamless booty experience

regards

mike

CatDude · #135 Post by **CatDude** » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 20:59

Hi

mikeb wrote:I like the yosemite one.

I have attached it below for you.

mikeb wrote: And why not ...especially as this thread is for the techinical site rather than the arty tarty stuff.

I will give it some serious thought, would you contribute to it yourself ?

mikeb wrote: Certainly it compliments the use of a splash image during the system boot up...indeed using the same image for both would give a seamless booty experience

There isn't many Puppies that have a splash image though, is there ?

CatDude
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mikeb · #136 Post by **mikeb** » Sat 12 Dec 2009, 04:14

Thanks for the download

There isn't many Puppies that have a splash image though, is there ?

hmm...that had a brief period of pupularity....I think playing with the initrd.gz put people off.
Bootsplash actually can attach a boot image and info to a pre made initrd.gz....also needs the kernel patched to use it...hmm
http://bootsplash.org/FAQ

As for a thread.... images plus premade files using a generic puppy template (as you made for me)...easy enough for people to contribute

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I'm sure I could come up with some more piccies

regards

mike

vellowax · #137 Post by **vellowax** » Sat 12 Dec 2009, 06:06

CatDude wrote: I have been toying with the idea of starting a new thread in the Eye Candy section,
just for GRUB message files, what do you think ?

mikeb wrote:Certainly it compliments the use of a splash image during the system boot up...indeed using the same image for both would give a seamless booty experience

I think it would be very useful.

Mostly everyone surely wished to have a beautiful appearance on their machine

-gfx menu
-splash image
-and a nice theme

Puppy Rock

mikeb · #138 Post by **mikeb** » Sat 12 Dec 2009, 14:34

Mostly everyone surely wished to have a beautiful appearance on their machine

I can think of a few beautiful experiences I'd rather have

mike

vellowax · #139 Post by **vellowax** » Mon 14 Dec 2009, 01:09

mikeb wrote:I can think of a few beautiful experiences I'd rather have Very Happy

Would you care to share with us

mikeb · #140 Post by **mikeb** » Wed 16 Dec 2009, 22:21

For my demo I added a line in help saying that ESC allows access to the advanced grub features...ie the original menu....might be a good idea

mike

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