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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Feb 2008, 23:04    Post subject:
Subject description: No Choice of keyboard on first boot
 

nic2109 wrote:
Hi ttuuxxx; thanks for all the work you have done on this. I am trying the Opera version and like it a lot.

I have one teeny-weeny problemette to report: the initial boot-up doesn't stop and present a list of keyboards to choose from. We all get 'US' by default.

Slightly worse is the alarming error message when I tried to select 'UK' via the keyboard/mouse wizard. See screenshot. And although it says "Puppy has now loaded and is using this layout' it doesn't. Crying or Very sad

One question about XMMS: how do you add new Radio stations? I like to listen to BBC Radio 3 and 4 and tried to add a new entry with its URL but I couldn't get it to work. What is the correct procedure for this?


it might take me a day or so but i'll get it working for you, ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Feb 2008, 05:36    Post subject:
Subject description: No Choice of keyboard on first boot
 

nic2109 wrote:
Hi ttuuxxx; thanks for all the work you have done on this. I am trying the Opera version and like it a lot.

I have one teeny-weeny problemette to report: the initial boot-up doesn't stop and present a list of keyboards to choose from. We all get 'US' by default.

Slightly worse is the alarming error message when I tried to select 'UK' via the keyboard/mouse wizard. See screenshot. And although it says "Puppy has now loaded and is using this layout' it doesn't. Crying or Very sad

One question about XMMS: how do you add new Radio stations? I like to listen to BBC Radio 3 and 4 and tried to add a new entry with its URL but I couldn't get it to work. What is the correct procedure for this?


the direct links you were looking for are.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/ram/r3g2.ram
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/media/fmg2.ram
as you see they are for real player. I'll see what works for it.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Feb 2008, 07:18    Post subject:  

Hi; thanks for the responses. The keyboard issue is a bit more complex than it first appeared as using the mouse/keyboard wizard results in error messages at boot up now. It cannot find ".map" so has lost the country prefix. You then get a 60 second pause (for me it's a chance to read the incomprehensible error messages!) and it carries on and uses the defaults. They appear to work like a UK keyboard so it works OK.

Is there a log file I could list that would help trouble-shoot?

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2008, 03:09    Post subject: hope things are well with you ttuuxxx  

Gidday ttuuxxx. I pieced the PC back together while I was still motivated... unfotunately the CPU is now passively cooled LOL as I broke the fan. Oh well, thermal grease, & left part of the faraday cage over the heatsink off to improve cooling... Runs ok - might even be worth finding a cheap quiet HDD, and I'll have a silent rig! Tried to send the HDD to sleep, but didn't work. Hoping to find a cheap K6 III CPU sometime. I also stuffed up the swap file, which slows down the boot. I'll fix that later - my current 3.01 frugal install is still functional, so I'll get by for now. Ttuuxx, you might want to leave me on the back burner for now. Personally I'm kinda just staving some depression off - which makes mucking round with PCs a little risky. (Nothing worse than starting a project - & then getting too depressed to finish it - just makes me more depressed!) So in a week or few I'll be back in the swing (pun unintended but noticed) of things, & will have another crack at getting Living Water working. My initial motivation for this whole 'light church pup' thing was to create a nice resource for me to study and get close to God in the shed outside. On that front I've had a little success, and have started journalling to God (major milestone), though bibledesktop is still clunky. As for you, don't spend too much time away from the Mrs ttuuxxx! They don't respond well to that eh. Yes, 3.01 usually works very well.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2008, 05:33    Post subject:  

Hi guys i'm still trying figure this out. I did find out about this forum from someone who i contacted.Its about 2.17 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=20171
well its a start Smile
I might make a fatfree 3.01 with only a brwosers,tuuxxxTV and the 4 bible programs, But this will not be for the general public since printing and windows shares won't work. Really its pretty much just for the shed pc:)

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Feb 2008, 05:43    Post subject:  

Hello everyone.

strange_kiwi You might like to take a look at http://www.sacredspace.ie/ as a site to aid daily prayer/meditation. It's run by Jesuits from Eire so has an RC angle, but is mainstream Christian and very popular with church folk from many denominations.

ttuuxxx You might like to put a link to this site somewhere into Living Water - if you like the look of it that is.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:07    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
ok my wife is going to kill me for this one,lol Which version are you using opera or firefox, and does puppy 3.01 work for your pc? Maybe a retro kernel? hows that sound, If so i'll start straight away and see how quick I can transplant everything from 2.17 living water to 3.01 living water. ttuuxxx


I just tried the TV app you posted with ChurchPup (Linux 3.01).

The audio works on some of the links but no video, for some of the links neither
work.

Thanks for posting it! I will await your port across to 3.01.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2008, 11:20    Post subject:  

edoc wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
ok my wife is going to kill me for this one,lol Which version are you using opera or firefox, and does puppy 3.01 work for your pc? Maybe a retro kernel? hows that sound, If so i'll start straight away and see how quick I can transplant everything from 2.17 living water to 3.01 living water. ttuuxxx


I just tried the TV app you posted with ChurchPup (Linux 3.01).

The audio works on some of the links but no video, for some of the links neither
work.

Thanks for posting it! I will await your port across to 3.01.


which video player were you using, On lining water its using Xine-Gui or Gxine ?

When I made it all links showed streaming video and audio. I tested each for at least 30mins, But I have a 2MB/s adsl2+ connection so it could be a set server speed thing. Just off the top of my head Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Feb 2008, 13:41    Post subject:  

Caneri wrote:
"For the record, Yeshua (Jesus) claimed to be THE Way, THE Truth, THE Life, and that there was no other way to His Father God, but through Himself."

hmmm...I think that was originally found on an Egyptian pharaohs cartouche(spelling?).....a few hundred years before Jesus walked the earth and considered a pagan saying by the modern church..but I may be wrong.

Eric


Evidence of knowledge of pre-existing Bblically recorded/reported in the written language of one of the oldest civilizations.

Seven Chinese Characters that show that the ancient Chinese knew the Gospel message found in the book of Genesis:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/Docs/388.asp
http://www.bibleprobe.com/chinese.htm
http://www.pinyin.info/readings/texts/chinese_writing_reform.html
http://www.theologos.net/e-books/illustrations.html

I think that it is important to recognize that there is a uniqueness to the roots of Biblical Christianity unmatched by any other faith-system.

We have been reading through the Bible chronologically and it is fascinating to note that Biblical Christianity is absolutely and consistently tied to the ancient HIS-story of the Old Testament.

God alone is the Beginning. He created ex nihilo - something from nothing - which means He alone preceded Creation - physics tells us that nothing created can create ex nihilo.

This also means that that which flowed from the singular creation of God is owned by Him.

God has caused a single document to be written and given to man so that we may understand Him and our purpose in relationship with Him, it is His Bible.

It is impossible to read the Bible with a teachable heart and mind and not be transformed by the detailed caring of God, His provision for our well-being, and that HIS-story alone explains everything perfectly from Creation to the end of Creation to His promised New Creation.

Every other faith-system borrows from HIS-story and is both incomplete and self-contradictory. That is not an attack it is a mere statement of indisputable fact. God will permit one to believe whatever one chooses but choices have consequences.

I agree that there is legitimate debate as to the eternal condition of those not approved via Jesus for admission to Heaven. I am more comfortable with the view that Hell is a temporary place and is part of Creation which is obliterated. Heaven is tied to God and is a New Creation not obliterated.

Consider carefully the detailed record of the Creator God and consider the incredible detail of His Bible - then compare it to any other faith-system. Your heart will be profoundly challenged by His loving care.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Feb 2008, 13:07    Post subject:  

I finally made a web-page for living water http://www.ttuuxxx.com/livingwater/index.html

and also Living water has a dedicated forum just click the forum link on the web-page and it will take you to it Smile
Feel free to join and post anything you like, or dislike, maybe some future changes, etc. Its open for your views and suggestions.
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Mar 2008, 02:31    Post subject:  

Hi, great thread!! I always get a kick out of the discussions of folks about the meaning of life. Christianity is profoundly differently from anything else. some have tried to explain and now I will put my 2 cents.

first the teachings of Buddha are very similar to the teachings Christians are supposed to live by and if that was all there was to Christianity then the Buddhist would be correct. but more important than the way of life and the rest of it is Jesus. there is no such thing as Christianity without Jesus. without Jesus it becomes Buddhism or something very like it. there is no other theological view where a man came and claimed to be God and said that we were all under the legally imposed sentence of death but he had not only the right and ability but was willing and fully prepared to die to pay our debt. this is true whether we live the Christian life or not. Jesus died 2000 years ago (approx.) knowing that almost all his followers would come to him after he had already paid the price of our ransom.

second someone said there were writings that predate Jesus etc. well where do you think they got the notion? I get a kick out of the people who say there was no flood and that the Jews stole the story from the messopotamians. where did they get the story? the chinese have a similar story the american indians etc. etc. they have the story because it happened! for non believers this part will stick but there is a Satan and he is the one who decided to usurp Gods prerogative. his first line of attack has not changed. look at what he told Eve. Hath God said? cast doubt and the victory is yours. the coming and mission of the Messiah was talked about from the beginning. the Egyptians were originally worshippers of one God until this kind of doubt was cast and another system was put foreward as more permissive and more in tune with the desires of man. your arguments show me the viability and robust truth in the word of God.

third htere was reference to the Catholic church and Buddhism

Heaping tons of shame on the Catholic Church for their embracing this evil stuff!! nuff said??

Finally I don't apreciate the glib remarks. it should be aparent from the start that we Christians believe what we believe and making it into a joke is not funny. I'm not angry or anything just amazed how people think it is ok just because we're Christians to say things that would not be said otherwise. would you take the same tone talking about racism? or maybe someones relative dying of cancer? this is a much more serious matter than you think and even if you don't believe, have respect. you go, have your Christianity lite (all the guilt without the Saviour after taste) and you make your Satan worshiper puppy if you think it is soo cute. if you do it to upset us here then we already win. eat, drink, be merry, but remember no one is promised tomorrow. take life seriously because it is!

sorry if this is a bit more salty than I at first intended. but I take this seriously. and by the way I thank you in Jesus name for making this Distribution and for being so humble in your replies to these attacks.
Scott
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Mar 2008, 22:45    Post subject:  

37fleetwood wrote:


I'm not angry or anything just amazed how people think it is ok just because we're Christians to say things that would not be said otherwise. \



Yeah, go tell a militant muslim that Mohamed ate bacon for breakfast, your head would be in a basket so folks wouldn't say something like that to their face, but since we are supposed to be peaceful people folks feel that they can say anything they like.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 19:19    Post subject: Great Puppy!
Subject description: Living Water 217
 

Very Happy Hey Ttuuxxx,
Downloaded both versions of Living Water.
Very nice work.. Very Happy. Great first impression, love the desktop. Everything works great, Ttuuxxx TV runs fullscreen smoothly, browsers and apps run great... Very Happy
However, wifi is spotty at best so i may try the 2.0 downgrade if i need wifi, but on ethernet it rocks!!
I believe this may be one of the more effective Puppys for drawing new linux users away from M$. The theme and content speak to a large group who would like an alternative to "satansoft".
Plus, the desktop would really look good on the church computer!!
Puppy Linux, helping to spread the word!!



Puppyluvr..running BuddaPup on a p3 600mhz w 160mb ram, full install

Puppy Rocks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 20:14    Post subject: Re: Great Puppy!
Subject description: Living Water 217
 

puppyluvr wrote:
Very Happy Hey Ttuuxxx,
Downloaded both versions of Living Water.
Very nice work.. Very Happy. Great first impression, love the desktop. Everything works great, Ttuuxxx TV runs fullscreen smoothly, browsers and apps run great... Very Happy
However, wifi is spotty at best so i may try the 2.0 downgrade if i need wifi, but on ethernet it rocks!!
I believe this may be one of the more effective Puppys for drawing new linux users away from M$. The theme and content speak to a large group who would like an alternative to "satansoft".
Plus, the desktop would really look good on the church computer!!
Puppy Linux, helping to spread the word!!



Puppyluvr..running BuddaPup on a p3 600mhz w 160mb ram, full install

Puppy Rocks Very Happy


Thanks for that:) I'll be building a newer version on the 3.0 series as soon as I get some time.Smile
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Mar 2008, 13:05    Post subject:  

Has anyone ever figured out a way to make the text larger on Bible Desktop? It gives me a fit trying to read that tiny type. I have a smaller monitor and I'm running 800x600 I believe. Any ideas?
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