Lighthouse 3.01 Alpha4 - KDE 3.5.7 - ISO 278M

[Barburo]

Thanks TaZoc and Macadavy for your suggestions - I decided to re-create from the LH iso. Lots of fun, but I keep the dotpups and pets that I install so it's easy to re-apply them. Of course I had to re-set-up the apps the way I wanted them. I had a corrupted nvidia pet that kept me busy until I re-downloaded it with wget and verified the checksum.

I still like Lighthouse the best - the KDE implementation is quick and clean.
My son, looking over my shoulder when I was trying Tiger with the compiz-fusion effects was very impressed (wow - that's a lot smoother and faster than on my laptop under XP) but I find Lighthouse more usable day-to-day.

Thanks Tazoc for your excellent version of puppy and your kind responses to my sort-of dumb problems. B.

[Bligh]

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place. When I used new post, it appeared in derivatives.
I don't have a paypal account,how can I contribute to Lighthouse? Thanks.
Cheers

[kayan]

I have installed as frugal on my laptop , i am very happy with the kde & icewm
but i am not able to connect to intenet , both the browsers firefox & Koncorer reports no internet connection but pppoe-status reports connection ( i am able to browse with puppy 4 dingo and other variants of puppy) when checked with route and ifconfig commands they are the same as in puppy 4...
Please help

[kayan]

following is the result to the commands of route & ifconfig

-bash-3.00# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
59.96.24.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0
loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0
<root> ~




<root> ~
-bash-3.00# ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:36:01:91:CF
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:51 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:51 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:3216 (3.1 KiB) TX bytes:3769 (3.6 KiB)
Interrupt:5 Base address:0x2000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:60 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:60 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:4716 (4.6 KiB) TX bytes:4716 (4.6 KiB)

ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:59.96.25.135 P-t-P:59.96.24.1 Mask:255.255.255.255
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1
RX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:19 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
RX bytes:718 (718.0 B) TX bytes:653 (653.0 B)

<root> ~
-bash-3.00#

[elraven]

I was trying lh 301a4 and had the problem listed at the begining of these posts ,namely icons on desktop vanished . Trying the fix mentioned in the original post , I found it didn't work . I discovered I had bigger problems . Whether I was in Rox , or the terminal , or file finders like Pfind , stuff i enstalled like apache wasn't being recognized . I used konqueror to get apache started .

Any who , just a bit ago I went snooping in the /root /Config/ rox.sourceforge.net/ rox-filer folder. Then I saw something . I saw I had two globicon listings . One was globicon and the other was globicon.original . So like the mad idiot I am . I gave globicon the extension .bak . Then I renamed globicon.original to globicon. I exited to prompt ,restarted icewm and hooray I had icons ! Except for the one for K3b . Rox is fine now , the Pfind and the other file finders are remembering .

So give this a try , it might work for you too

[Barburo]

@Bligh

I don't have a paypal account,how can I contribute to Lighthouse? Thanks.
Cheers

TazOC only surfaces occasionally now - try sending him a private message (PM) - he may reply. I know he would appreciate a contribution.
Why not set up a one-time PayPal account, use it, then ignore it. I have had horrible problems with PayPal myself so I can appreciate if others are unwilling to use them (see paypalsucks.com for horror stories - they also point you to alternatives).
B.

@kayan
Getting wireless to work is tough. Sometimes the wireless "connect" in Puppy fails to do the job.
I have a script "wireless-gtkdialog" that I use first. I believe it's been renamed to pwireless. I think it's now a pet - here's the link:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... ch&id=7379
Download and install.

If that doesn't work I wrote a simple brute force script that nearly always will get me connected, even if I have to try multiple times. I have a bcm43xx module in my laptop that is very poor at connecting. The script is for WEP and eth1 . Substitute your router information (you get it from iwconfig in a terminal) for module, essid, WEP key (use a ten digit key), channel, and access point (ap). I heard that multiple iwconfig commands work better than a single one with multiple arguments. It has worked for me.
I run this script in a terminal window. If you try it be sure to make it executable. Your computer may use a different identifier than eth1. (I grabbed the last bit of code from wireless-gtkdialog so that I could get feedback whether the connection had succeeded or not). B.

#!/bin/sh
rmmod bcm43xx
sleep 3
modprobe bcm43xx
sleep 3
ifconfig eth1 down
ifconfig eth1 up
iwconfig eth1 essid xxxx
iwconfig eth1 key open xxxxxxxxxx
iwconfig eth1 channel 11
iwconfig eth1 nickname default
iwconfig eth1 mode managed
iwconfig eth1 ap 00:13:46:F5:E3:B0
iwconfig eth1 bit auto
iwconfig eth1 rate auto
iwconfig eth1 txpower auto
sleep 3
iwconfig eth1
echo "Trying DHCP for eth1"
rm -f /etc/dhcpc/*.pid
dhcpcd -t 30 eth1
IP=`ifconfig eth1 | grep 'inet addr:' | sed 's/^[ ^t]*//' | sed 's/inet addr://g' | cut -f 1 -d ' '`
echo "IP Address:" $IP
exit 0

[tazoc]

Sorry if this post is in the wrong place. When I used new post, it appeared in derivatives.
I don't have a paypal account,how can I contribute to Lighthouse? Thanks.
Cheers

I just checked and it looks like PayPal does require account creation, even just to donate with a CC. I'm glad to hear that you want to contribute. PM me if you'd like to have my mailing address to make a donation. I don't have a business, nor an address suitable for posting on the web.

Or there are other ways you can contribute to the Puppy Community--testing new versions, development of other Puppy derivatives, documentation, forum feedback, etc.

Hope that helps,
TazOC

[tazoc]

I have installed as frugal on my laptop , i am very happy with the kde & icewm
but i am not able to connect to intenet , both the browsers firefox & Koncorer reports no internet connection but pppoe-status reports connection ( i am able to browse with puppy 4 dingo and other variants of puppy) when checked with route and ifconfig commands they are the same as in puppy 4...
Please help

I'm assuming you've tried the connectwizard (Connect to Internet icon). Are you on a wired or wireless connection? If wireless, did Barburo's suggestions work? I'm not familiar with PPPoE connections, maybe someone who is can help here?
TazOC

[kayan]

Dear Barburo
i am trying to get connected to internet through eth0,i am able to connect in puppy dingo ,

but when i use the roaring penguin pppoe in Lhpup, it gets connected ,but browsers are giving the error message as not connected..

after going through the forum and help from others .i used the following commands in terminal "route del default ,route add default ppp0"

now my problem is solved

thanks

[Bligh]

I am just getting up to speed with Puppy and Lighthouse, but am enjoying it very much. Apparently I did not copy the lighthouse 301a.sfs file to the hdd when I set this up, can I copy the file to the hdd now to speed up the boot up?
Cheers

[MU]

I am just getting up to speed with Puppy and Lighthouse, but am enjoying it very much. Apparently I did not copy the lighthouse 301a.sfs file to the hdd when I set this up, can I copy the file to the hdd now to speed up the boot up?
Cheers

yes.
Mark

[Bligh]

Thanks, much faster now.
Cheers

[tazoc]

I'm working on an updated Lighthouse 3.01b with a slew of updates, including a new LookNFeel Panel with KMenu tweaks, KDE 3.5.9, FireFox 3.03, Java 1.6u7, Muppymplayer and more IceWM features from Lighthouse 2.15. For performance and reliability reasons, I disabled Shadows and Translucency by default, but you can still turn it on if desired.

Any other suggestions are welcomed here. I'll start a new thread as soon as the ISO is uploaded. Java 1.6 was requested. I think someone asked about Amarok but its size and dependencies convinced me to leave it out for now. Maybe I can find or make an add-on package for it if there are more requests.
-TazOC

[Colonel Panic]

Good work. Is it possible for it to run in 256 MB of RAM, for those of us with older machines?

[tazoc]

Good work. Is it possible for it to run in 256 MB of RAM, for those of us with older machines?

Good question, I'm afraid not unless there is a technique I'm unfamiliar with. KDE, Firefox, GIMP and mplayer w/codecs are sizable, yet I use them all regularly. Although I wish I could 'cut the fat' I still want most of the apps and graphics I use available in LiveCD or first-boot mode--hence Lighthouse has grown quite a bit. The beta I'm working on has a core file, pup_301b3_lighthouse that is 286 MB. In my brief VBox testing, it needed about 384mb RAM to boot.

Other than LighthousePup 215, which doesn't have KDE and I don't plan to update, you might consider official Puppy and add EZPup (which includes IceWM window manager, or MU's great puplet Muppy-Mini http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33542

If I manage to build a stripped-down Lighthouse in the future that boots on 256 MB RAM I will let you know.

Take care,
TazOC

[MU]

It will not run in ram, but anyway may run well.
If a pup_xxx.sfs cannot be loaded to ram, it is mounted directly from disk.
This will be slow, if the disk is a CD.
So puppy offers to copy pup_xxx.sfs to the harddisk, to speed it up.
You are offered this, when you shut down first time, and may create the savefile.
If have a Pentium 800 with 256 MB, and even huge puplets run fine on it like this.

But with 256 MB, it is wise to create a swap partitiion of 256 MB.
Else, you might encounter crashes or freezes with huger puplets.

Mark

[Jactek]

Ive been using lighthouse as my regular os since it came out, I use Icewm not KDE and have upgraded to Opera 9.52. I was having problems with freezing up I increased my swap file from 7 meg to 512 meg and have had no problems since, this is really a great pup

Jim

[Barburo]

Hi TaZoc,
Good news about the new version - I have tried many other pup derivatives, but I keep coming back to LH301a4 because of its usability. Whatever you put into the new version I'll be testing out.

I run a modified LH Puppy with the .sfs for Open Office and with .pets or .pups for nVidia, Pan, and ktorrent and jSymphonic to put music on my Sony walkman.

Apps that I would like but that I couldn't make work:
Fotoxxx, gtkam. (Barry included Fotoxx in Dingo), Iscan scanner software. Have not had much luck with getting a scanner to work in 3.1 (managed OK with my old dektop running LH2.15).

I can get the .pet file for picasa to work OK but it's huge. What I like about picasa are the tools for improving images. Fotoxxx looks like it could do as good a job but it needs tweaking to make it work in 3.1.

There's always a discussion about music players with XMMS versus audacious being a hot one (although audacious is a fork of beep that came from XMMS). I can run both but I like your implementation of XMMS best and it uses less CPU. I also tried Zigbert's PMusic audio player. It's small and effective. I have installed Pmetetagger too but it seemed to miss the new IDE tags.

What would also be nice is a jukebox sort of application for organizing music files and editing mp3 tags. Amarok is the KDE standard but as you say probably too big. Looking on the forum I see there's others like Exaile (needs Python), Songbird and wxMusik more for gtk implementation.
All the best - Barburo.

[Bligh]

I am still happily exploring Lighthouse 2x and 3x, but would be happy to try a new version.
Cheers

[Colonel Panic]

Good work. Is it possible for it to run in 256 MB of RAM, for those of us with older machines?

Good question, I'm afraid not unless there is a technique I'm unfamiliar with. KDE, Firefox, GIMP and mplayer w/codecs are sizable, yet I use them all regularly. Although I wish I could 'cut the fat' I still want most of the apps and graphics I use available in LiveCD or first-boot mode--hence Lighthouse has grown quite a bit. The beta I'm working on has a core file, pup_301b3_lighthouse that is 286 MB. In my brief VBox testing, it needed about 384mb RAM to boot.

Other than LighthousePup 215, which doesn't have KDE and I don't plan to update, you might consider official Puppy and add EZPup (which includes IceWM window manager, or MU's great puplet Muppy-Mini http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=33542

If I manage to build a stripped-down Lighthouse in the future that boots on 256 MB RAM I will let you know.

Take care,
TazOC

Thanks, I'll consider your suggestions but it's not all that important. I've got Puppy Lighthouse 2.15 and that works well on my machine.