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Grub boot frugal Puppy from ntfs
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rockets

Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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Location: Lillian, Al

PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2008, 14:49    Post subject:  Grub boot frugal Puppy from ntfs
Subject description: Grub gives error 17 after frugal install of puppy 3.oo
 

I installed Puppy 3.00 to a ntfs partition in folder /puppy300 on hda5 as the univ installer suggested. Copied the installer recommended grub stanza to my menu.lst which resides on /boot/grub in a mandrake installation on hda6.
When I rebooted grub gave error 17 which is 'part exists, but grub can't read it'.

Is there a simple change I can make to boot puppy?????

# df
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda7 10886900 4808952 5524912 47% /initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/loop1 507748 28454 453080 6% /initrd/pup_rw
tmpfs 79848 78932 916 99% /initrd/mnt/tmpfs
/dev/loop0 78848 78848 0 100% /initrd/pup_ro2
unionfs 507748 28454 453080 6% /
tmpfs 585480 52 585428 0% /tmp
shmfs 104196 0 104196 0% /dev/shm
#
The menu.lst......

timeout 10
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
default 3

title linux Mandrake
kernel (hd0,5)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda8
initrd (hd0,5)/initrd.img

title 263-7
kernel (hd0,5)/vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk root=/dev/hda7 devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda8
initrd (hd0,5)/initrd-2.6.3-7mdk.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,5)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda7 failsafe acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda8 devfs=nomount
initrd (hd0,5)/initrd.img

title windows xp
root (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

title floppy
root (fd0)
chainloader +1

title usb boot
root (hd1,0)
chainloader +1

title Puppy Linux 300 frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /puppy300/vmlinuz pmedia=idehd psubdir=puppy300
initrd /puppy300/initrd.gz


Thanks...
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rcrsn51


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Location: Stratford, Ontario

PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:01    Post subject:  

GRUB can't read an NTFS filesystem. That's why your Mandrake is installed in an ext partition. Why not reformat hda5 to ext also?
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rockets

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Location: Lillian, Al

PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:21    Post subject:  

That would work. I merely followed the instructions from http://www.puppylinux.com/hard-puppy.htm
which says that puppy will load on any file system (and it will)
then continues with the grub modification required which implies
load puppy anywhere and use grub.

I think that is impossible but want it clarified.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:28    Post subject:  

It is possible to put Puppy in an NTFS partition. For example, you might want your frugal install to coexist with a Windows setup. However, you would then have to boot it with another mechanism, like grldr from the Windows boot.ini file.

If you want hda5 to be visible from Windows, format it as fat32. GRUB will be able to launch Puppy from there.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jan 2008, 10:36    Post subject:  

Puppy now boots from hd frugal install. Found mbrwiz, a great mbr utility, and restored my mbr to get rid of grub. Copied grldr and menu.lst to c:/, modified boot.ini to include c:\grldr and it boots. Well allmost I used / instead of \ and it did not boot til I corrected it.

Thanks for fast response and good direction.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Jan 2008, 17:22    Post subject:  

Glad to help.
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