I think that I turned it off, for consideration of multisession people. You have to go into the Preferences and turn it on.Flash wrote:Also, I can't find SeaMonkey's cache. By default it's supposed to be in /root/.Mozilla/default, but I can't seem to find it there in 3.94 20080104.
Dingo Alpha 4 (full) release Jan 5
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SD
Barry, you said this to dvw86:
I wonder if the failure of poweroff in alpha4 (run from SD) is related to this.
In my experience, SD access is faster than USB, and I boot the eee with an external SD card. In the eee, the internal storage is /dev/hdc while the external SD is /dev/sda. However, in the eee BIOS, external SD is counted as HDD, and you can set it to boot from the external "HDD" first.Regarding SD card support, alpha4 does have that, but not at bootup.
I wonder if the failure of poweroff in alpha4 (run from SD) is related to this.
Re: CD/DVD multisession
The cache is where I find Real Audio files and Flash files I've listened to that I want to save. To keep the cache from messing up my multisession, I go to Edit > Preferences > Advanced > cache and tell SeaMonkey to put the cache in /tmp so that it is not saved. I tried to do that in 3.94-20080104 but it didn't seem to work, which is when I discovered there is no cache at all. I don't see where I can turn it off and on.BarryK wrote:I think that I turned it off, for consideration of multisession people. You have to go into the Preferences and turn it on.Flash wrote:Also, I can't find SeaMonkey's cache. By default it's supposed to be in /root/.Mozilla/default, but I can't seem to find it there in 3.94 20080104.
If you click on the clock, lower right corner, you get Ical in older revisions, nothing at all in dingo alpha 3 (haven't tried 4 yet). Neither seems correct to me. I like the windows notion of getting to the clock to adjust it.
Perhaps a right click there can be turned into a menu, with the items "Ical", "Set date and time", and "Set time zone"? I looked at modifying it myself and its beyond my abilities at this point. Maybe someone else might give it a try? Just a thought...
Perhaps a right click there can be turned into a menu, with the items "Ical", "Set date and time", and "Set time zone"? I looked at modifying it myself and its beyond my abilities at this point. Maybe someone else might give it a try? Just a thought...
something that looks like Ical pops up in 4 with a launch button for Osmo.PaulBx1 wrote:...click on the clock...Ical in older revisions, nothing at all in dingo alpha 3 (haven't tried 4 yet).
great thought. I'm also thinking a menu would be cool.PaulBx1 wrote:I like the windows notion of getting to the clock to adjust it.
Perhaps a right click there can be turned into a menu, with the items "Ical", "Set date and time", and "Set time zone"? I looked at modifying it myself and its beyond my abilities at this point. Maybe someone else might give it a try? Just a thought...
Concerning the strange case of the invisible IDE HD drives, first the good news. It has now been possible to see some of them with PMount and even manipulate them with GPartEd. To do all this, it was necessary first to M$FDisk them and M$Format them and mount them on the old PII/C400 (not sure whether it's an LX or BX chipset). None of this has generally been necessary with either previous series2, series1 nor any other distro.
And now for the bad news.
At no stage is cfdisk functional, although this was an issue in another recent testing release and was fixed.
Furthermore, although the PUI now sees an IDE HD on the PII board once it has been ext2/3 reformatted, after selecting the second screen for Full installation to hdx (the nomenclature hasn't been rewritten yet, either), the entire process just disappears - no crash, no lock-up, it just stops and disappears with full access returned to the desktop.
As reported again in the BK blog this morning - Dingo is broken. It doesn't work for anyone proposing full installation to IDE. These tests suggest that there is considerably more than a typo or a single coding failure, but I'm no expert in that department. The show is now stopped at this location until one can read of major reworking of the IDE function.
PS The new PCLOS Mini-me 2008 is rather good.
And now for the bad news.
At no stage is cfdisk functional, although this was an issue in another recent testing release and was fixed.
Furthermore, although the PUI now sees an IDE HD on the PII board once it has been ext2/3 reformatted, after selecting the second screen for Full installation to hdx (the nomenclature hasn't been rewritten yet, either), the entire process just disappears - no crash, no lock-up, it just stops and disappears with full access returned to the desktop.
As reported again in the BK blog this morning - Dingo is broken. It doesn't work for anyone proposing full installation to IDE. These tests suggest that there is considerably more than a typo or a single coding failure, but I'm no expert in that department. The show is now stopped at this location until one can read of major reworking of the IDE function.
PS The new PCLOS Mini-me 2008 is rather good.
USB install
Barry, USB install process halted just as described in comment by "justgreg" on your blog.
Exactly same point in executing the script.
"I used ps-a to check the process to see where it fails.
Starting the universal installer results in a new process called puppyinstaller. After selecting usbflash, the puppyinstaller is still there along with one for GTK. Selecting the device (sd?1), the processes are still going, but process numbers do change. Agreeing to the device selected, results in the processes still going. The processes still are working after one picks the CD for the source. The proper device for the CD is listed. Upon clicking on OK to start copying, the CDROM starts and then stops. A check of process shows all process for the universal installer have stopped and are not listed. I did check and found the cdrom was mounted in mnt/sr0. I had made sure the CDROm was not mounted at the start of this. I looked at the puppyinstaller script and one selects the Cdrom in line 699. The error has to be just after that line. I hope this helps."
Exactly same point in executing the script.
"I used ps-a to check the process to see where it fails.
Starting the universal installer results in a new process called puppyinstaller. After selecting usbflash, the puppyinstaller is still there along with one for GTK. Selecting the device (sd?1), the processes are still going, but process numbers do change. Agreeing to the device selected, results in the processes still going. The processes still are working after one picks the CD for the source. The proper device for the CD is listed. Upon clicking on OK to start copying, the CDROM starts and then stops. A check of process shows all process for the universal installer have stopped and are not listed. I did check and found the cdrom was mounted in mnt/sr0. I had made sure the CDROm was not mounted at the start of this. I looked at the puppyinstaller script and one selects the Cdrom in line 699. The error has to be just after that line. I hope this helps."
I don't know if is deliberate or accidental but there is no /usr/sbin/pptp needed to connect to a pptp vpn.
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VMWare and Alpha 4
In case others are interested...
Created a VMWare virtual machine for Alpha 4 and ran it with XP as a host. Runs at close to native speed as far as I can tell. Only XVESA would work with the virtual display adapter. Configured an ext3 virtual disk and tried a frugal install to it without success. But making the disk bootable and copying the files across by hand etc. resulted in a functional Puppy that can either be suspended/restarted via VMWare or shut down and restarted via Puppy.
The VM was created using the PC User Mag. (Aust.) Virtual Machine Shop included with the January edition DVD.
Created a VMWare virtual machine for Alpha 4 and ran it with XP as a host. Runs at close to native speed as far as I can tell. Only XVESA would work with the virtual display adapter. Configured an ext3 virtual disk and tried a frugal install to it without success. But making the disk bootable and copying the files across by hand etc. resulted in a functional Puppy that can either be suspended/restarted via VMWare or shut down and restarted via Puppy.
The VM was created using the PC User Mag. (Aust.) Virtual Machine Shop included with the January edition DVD.
Usb install
Ok, I'm a bit confused about where we are in this dialog, what version we are discussing, which thread (here or bugs?) etc. But here is where _I_ am. Maybe I should go back to beginner's class.
I am running Dingo Alpha 5. I still can't install to USB using the Universal installer.
When I run the universal installer, it currently tells me that I can run the partitioner, because I currently have no partitions.
After I run the partitioner and made it all a ext3 partition (it had been formatted in windows xp as vfat, I guess you call it), it basically told me the same thing. So I reran the parititioner and left some of the 2 gig Patriot usb drive unformatted, the rest ext 3.
I still basically get the choice of installing as a megafloppy or rerunning the partitioner again.
I don't mind running from my DVD; it works great. But I thought I'd report this.
I am running Dingo Alpha 5. I still can't install to USB using the Universal installer.
When I run the universal installer, it currently tells me that I can run the partitioner, because I currently have no partitions.
After I run the partitioner and made it all a ext3 partition (it had been formatted in windows xp as vfat, I guess you call it), it basically told me the same thing. So I reran the parititioner and left some of the 2 gig Patriot usb drive unformatted, the rest ext 3.
I still basically get the choice of installing as a megafloppy or rerunning the partitioner again.
I don't mind running from my DVD; it works great. But I thought I'd report this.
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Did you trygeneven wrote:Ok, I'm a bit confused about where we are in this dialog, what version we are discussing, which thread (here or bugs?) etc. But here is where _I_ am. Maybe I should go back to beginner's class.
I am running Dingo Alpha 5. I still can't install to USB using the Universal installer.
When I run the universal installer, it currently tells me that I can run the partitioner, because I currently have no partitions.
After I run the partitioner and made it all a ext3 partition (it had been formatted in windows xp as vfat, I guess you call it), it basically told me the same thing. So I reran the parititioner and left some of the 2 gig Patriot usb drive unformatted, the rest ext 3.
P.S. why the confusion? There are separate threads in the 'Bugs" section for Dingo alpha1, alpha2, alpha3, alpha4, alpha5, each titled appropriately.
I still basically get the choice of installing as a megafloppy or rerunning the partitioner again.
I don't mind running from my DVD; it works great. But I thought I'd report this.
1. unplug then replug the USB drive, or
2. Reboot then plug in the USB drive.
I made the note recently in my blog that the 2.6.23.12 kernel seems to have a degraded hotplug. If USB partitions are changed, the information in /proc and /sys does not update. A "hotplug event" is not even generated by reading from the drive. But perhaps a re-plug, will do it, failing that a reboot. This is quite a sad situation with this kernel.
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