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puppyluvr


Joined: 06 Jan 2008
Posts: 3503
Location: Chickasha Oklahoma

PostPosted: Thu 24 Jan 2008, 21:02    Post subject:  the dino lives
Subject description: but only a little!!!
 

hey tom... Very Happy
First off...WOW..The dino wobbles....a little...now the bad news..too old a motherboard...
bios doesnt include an option for adjusting memory allocation Sad ..at 32mb it stutters rather than wobbles!!lol Very Happy) that`s OK cause i never intended to run wNOP on this machine (except for testing purposes) as the puppy i`ve built on it is just too sweet!!! ( i call it buddapup...lhp215b4+enlightenment+opera+ + +)
Also i intend to upgrade soon... then me and wNOP will get to know each other Very Happy

As for the laptop..to answer your question, it was a full install that had never been shut down...(since earlier shutdowns resulted in a crash and my wife needs to use her comp daily)..i reinstalled after the first crash and left it running...
soooo... as in my earlier post, i c/a/bkspce`d out of x, "reboot" , never got past prompt,booted to xvesa, desktop ..changes intact, install worked and pups ect are saved...cannot get back into xorg.. Crying or Very sad
i`m thinking it`s involving the intel driver..after about 1 or 2 tries w/xorgwizard it stops auto-detecting the card. Evil or Very Mad

"If i have to get her another laptop", this is what she wants to run!!!
Very Happy Great Puppy Very Happy


Wink "all we are is dust in the wind ,dude* Bill S. Preston
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teajay


Joined: 23 Nov 2007
Posts: 2
Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Thu 24 Jan 2008, 22:16    Post subject:  

I have a Dell 9300 with an nVidia 6800 256mb graphics card and it works well on it. The corruption on some text and present during special effects in the previous release is no longer present so it looks a lot better too. Very Happy
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tombh


Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 422
Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan 2008, 07:52    Post subject:  

@puppyluvr: I tell you what then, I'll take another look at my friend's laptop (he lives here so it won't be a problem) and try and fix that --probably by using the proprietary intel driver-- and let you know how it goes...

@teajay: Very Happy

"As you can see, Genghis greatly enjoys Twinkies because of the excellent sugar rush." Ted Theodor Logan
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paulh177


Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Posts: 937
Location: ST862228

PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2008, 11:59    Post subject:  

i just want to say, I just downloaded and burned this and rebooted my acer 5612 laptop with it ... it's so much fun.

I have no idea why it's doing some of the things that it's doing, but it looks great. It's smooth and crisp and quick too.

when puppy can look as good as this it is an inducement for those who might otherwise use an 'buntu.

well done. I'm in brizzle tomorrow so i'll send you some positive vibes while i'm in town.
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tombh


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Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2008, 13:13    Post subject:  

I have compiled a patched MPlayer for all those running Compiz-Fusion on Puppy 3.01, see thread here. It enables hardware accelerated video to be rendered by CF -- considerably reducing CPU load compared to GXine using the xshm driver. I have found it to be far more stable than GXine, especially with full screen.

@paulh177: Cool Smile Thanks. I'll watch out for those good vibrations Wink
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shr1k


Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Location: Maine USA

PostPosted: Sun 27 Jan 2008, 00:38    Post subject:  

Mplayer works good for me. Thanks Very Happy
I got the spell check working in Opera here are the links
Aspell
http://www.filewatcher.com/b/ftp/147.52.159.12/mirrors/linux/puppylinux/pet_packages-3.0.0.html
english dictionary
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Libraries/libGtkspell-2.0.11-libaspell-0.6.0-english.pup
from here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=7968
I also used the goffice sfs and got that up and working
(abiword and gnumeric)
http://download.tuxfamily.org/nop/
instructions for sfs files
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy215sfsExpansionPacks
I hope all the links save someone some time Very Happy
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prehistoric


Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Posts: 1747

PostPosted: Sun 27 Jan 2008, 09:28    Post subject: time saver  

@sh1rk,

Thanks! You've saved me time already. I got the spell checking working, but missed the preconfigured sfs for goffice.

prehistoric

p.s. Tombh, have you considered adding the Matrox proprietary drivers? While I don't expect a G200 to meet demands for 3D, the G450 has the performance for Quake III, (so I am told, not a gamer). Not sure of specific features, but would put it well ahead of the Geforce 2 in general terms. http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/support/drivers/driverInfo.php?id=143

Added: Here's a thread on LinuxQuestions.org about problems and results. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/matrox-g450-and-dri-error-390885/

The tantalizing part is this quote from a guy running dual head:
Quote:
...i now have an average of 395 frames per sec for glx gears which is a big improvement...
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puppyluvr


Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Location: Chickasha Oklahoma

PostPosted: Mon 28 Jan 2008, 01:18    Post subject: Update  

Very Happy hey Very Happy
as a test i cleared a partition on the dino and installed wNOP...fuill hd install...shut her down ...and it reboots.. perfectly Very Happy..so i know my iso is good....hmmm.....



Wink "it`s better to remain silent, and be thought a fool, then to open one`s mouth and remove all doubt".....
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tombh


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Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2008, 07:25    Post subject:  

@prehistoric: I might consider compiling the matrox driver separately, but i wouldn't want to include it in wNOP if it can't run Compiz-Fusion. Is see noone has compiled it for Puppy yet, but any card that can do 395 FPS sounds alright!

@puppyluvr:Mmm yes that defintaely means the ISO is good. I had a little look into compiling the latest intel driver and am still trying to figure out what the minimum amount of updating to wNOP I would need to do allow that driver to work. Maybe I would need to update a lot, in which it might just be best to update all the graphical parts of wNOP and release it in the next version. But I reckon this would be the best thing to try in your case, that is, updating the intel driver.

"Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible." -- Doug Larson
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puppyluvr


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Location: Chickasha Oklahoma

PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2008, 23:25    Post subject: Well....
Subject description: `nuther test..
 

Hey Tom Very Happy

Well, I tested wNOP on different laptop.. P4..1.8 ghz..768 mb..ati radeon.
cd boots sweet and fast...Very impressive...full install on 5g ext2 partition.
reboots great!. Very fast..Made some changes.(theme ect)..reboot..no problem..used it for a while to show off to friends..several reboots..great
Saw your mplayer pup..Cool..D/L..and install..reboot.. Evil or Very Mad No xorg again...Same as other one..try xorgwizard..no auto detection..same thing.different card ...tried xvesa..booted for like 3 sec and cold killed the comp...dead...reboot ..still no xorg...scared to try xvesa!!
Will update and get a dump..
I feel like an albatros...
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puppyluvr


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Location: Chickasha Oklahoma

PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2008, 01:03    Post subject:  

Very Happy hey!!
Well, tried to reboot several times with same results, ..
xorg cant "see" the card .
until i installed something it worked fine...saw the ati card fine...
got brave and tried xvesa again..3 sec and..boom prompt..now i cant get in at all...
i dont think its me..(although i`m willing to accept the possibility Laughing)..my buddapup runs ,saves, and reboots fine on this machine..same install method for both..
anyhow, heres the dump from the "moment of impact"..
wNOPdump.tar.gz
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Filename  wNOPdump.tar.gz 
Filesize  2.52 KB 
Downloaded  414 Time(s) 
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tombh


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Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2008, 09:15    Post subject:  

Okay there was one interesting clue in that last dump,
"Can't read lock file /tmp/.X0-lock"
because this most often happens when the computer isn't shutdown properly, for example sudden battery failure, powercut, forced poweroff etc. This file must be deleted,
Code:
rm /tmp/.X0-lock


Also, another thing is that when you have these X failures you shouldn't need to run xorgwizard again, once setup it will always be setup. Do you try,
Code:
xwin

first?

However, in this case you may need to rerun xorgwizard just to make the switch back to Xorg rather than xvesa and rebuild your xorg.conf file. Don't worry that it doesn't autodetect your card, once it's finished, just type xwin and it should be alright. Fingers crossed.

My impression is that although these 2 problems on your separate computers 'seem' different they are probably caused by different things. The fact that you were able to reboot so many times is positive and I still think that the other one will be fixed by installing the latest intel driver (which I will get round to compiling at some point).
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shr1k


Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 44
Location: Maine USA

PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2008, 00:06    Post subject:  

Has any one had any luck getting Blender 2.45 to run on wNOP? I used .pup from this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1751815100&t=15602
It will run but the display is screwy. I use Blender alot, this is one program that I cant get to work right with wNOP.( I have been having to much fun watching my windows bop around and burn up to
try and install many other programs Rolling Eyes ) BTW I have Intel graphics.
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UncleBaldie


Joined: 03 Feb 2008
Posts: 42
Location: Staffordshire, UK

PostPosted: Tue 05 Feb 2008, 23:09    Post subject:
Subject description: Flippin' awesome !!
 

Wow!
Just d/l and running wNOP v0.2 from CD, runs like a dream on my Tosh Satellite U200-115 laptop.
No problems so far.
It's great to see CF running on Puppy. My happiness is now complete!! How much better can Puppy get ?

Thanks, TombH.......
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smooth

Joined: 03 Aug 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Patra , Greece

PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2008, 05:13    Post subject:  

Great puplet and compiz-fusion works fine (NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT). But I had installed it twice (frugal) and the second panel lost all its shortcuts setup , it changed the menu icon to the xfce icon and couldn't keep my second language (greek). Has anyone stepped on the same problem?
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