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Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6815 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

tom....

Funny how you get used to what you think someone's appearance is, when you haven't got a clue....

Is that a recent shot?

Somehow, I prefer the old one

Have you got uglier? Wink

Sorry, don't take offence, my gob seems to be saying things people can't handle, lately

Barryleavingitis, I think Wink

Aitch

tombh · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK

*lol*

Yeah, it's a more recent shot, a couple of weeks ago in fact, whereas the last one was getting on for a year old. Just something I like to do, gives the impression I'm a living, breathing person. Yeah it is funny how one gets used to things without even knowing, and how we most often suddenly realise it only once the old thing has gone. You'll get used to the new tombh I'm sure!

Best Wishes,
tom Smile

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6815 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

Of course, as long as he's as smart as the last one Wink

Aitch

ragaman · Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 188

Funny exchange between you two. Happens only in Puppyland.

I have WNOP running flawlessly on AMD Athlon 1700XP underclocked by 10% (less heat), 512MB DDR, ATI Radeon 9250 125MB vid card.

Beautiful Puplet there Tom. Thanks.

MobileDev · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 18 Location: USA

To no particular person on this thread, I would like to explain something important about CF.
This is even posted on their website (forgot where, maybe the FAQ).

GNOME, KDE, and XFCE are all desktop environments.

IceWM, Fluxbox, Enlightenment, and so on are just window managers.

In case you don't know anything about Xorg, only ONE window manager can be run at a time. Granted, Enlightenment can be hacked because it's code is in a unique position: It functions as a window manager or a desktop environment (which includes a window manager) It has certain components that can be separated and modified specifically to work with Compiz. In order to get something like IceWM, Fluxbox, etc. to work with compiz, you must first edit their source code so that they behave like, and are treated as, desktop environments or at least desktop managers. This will take a lot of work, but IceWM and Fluxbox aren't too big, so it is doable.

On a totally off topic note, it's good to be back here on the Puppy forums. I haven't had the time to peruse this particular forum because of college. Also, if anyone has gotten VisualBoyAdvance (the native version or the windows version) working in wNOP .02, please post! I would also like to get the cool fusion icon that they have in Ubuntu working in wNOP .02 Anybody got a package for that?

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6815 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

ragaman

wow · Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 1036 Location: Peru

Dark Adonis · Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 25

Hello!
Thankyou for making this wonderful puplet! I never thought that I would have a linux that would display such dazzling effects on my PC until now!

May I please ask a question? I'm trying to remaster this wonderful puplet, but every time I do so, xorgwizard can't configure compiz! The only was I have been able to remaster it is to select "configure /etc for my computer ONLY" during the remaster script.

I would like to very much use this on other computers... If I remaster it by not configuring /etc for my computer only, when the compiz config menu comes at start up, all the fields are blank (device, driver, etc...). Manual configuration does not fix this either. I even tried remastering it with all the xorg.conf files deleted except for the original.

So may I please ask, how I would do this?

Thankyou Surprised

tombh · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK

Yes, this is something that has been asked before and I know that dinky is at least one person that has gotten around it. Basically, I didn't make wNOP using the remaster script, I built it by manually editing the pup_300.sfs. So I have made changes to directories that the remaster script doesn't copy over to the new remastered puplet. The only one I know of for sure that the remaster script doesn't copy over is the /tmp directory, which I put the proprietary ATI and nVidia drivers in -- therefore they will need to be copied over manually or put in an another directory, where upon paths in the cfwizard script will need to be changed.

Does that make any sense? I can't remember how dinky did it now, but he was definitely successful!

if you can tell me exactly what directories the remaster script copies over then I can tell you what's missing -- also it would help me not create the same problems in the next version of wNOP.

tom Smile

nic2109 · Posted: Tue 09 Sep 2008, 16:44 Post subject:

37fleetwood · Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 403

Hi, if this is too much trouble I understand, but I have been watching and waiting for this puplet to progress to the point where it would be possible for me to use. I have an old ATI radeon 9200 series. you mention newer than 7000 I believe but this one despite it's numbers is pretty old. I havent been able to get compiz-fuzion to work. I got it to work on a friends computer which only made me want to get it useable on mine worse. I am not exactly stupid but i am not very tech savy and some of the jargon makes no sense to me at all. would someone here be willing to help me to try getting this going? I was hoping for a post which said something like "all Ati bugs figured out!" but I'm getting the feeling that it isn't that simple. I've thought about getting a new video card but just can't justify that at this point.
thanks for your time
Scott

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6815 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

@Nick

tombh · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK

Yeah, I've heard some people think of me as "tomb h", like there's a graveyard somewhere with graves for every letter of the alphabet!

@37fleetwood: If you type wNOPinspect from the command line, and then post the resulting wNOPdump.tar.gz to the forum. Then I'll be able to have a good look at the problem Smile

37fleetwood · Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 403

ok, before I try, are you talking when it's running in xfce? or before. when I start up it goes through the xorg wizard fine then it goes into the compiz-fuzion setup and falls apart. if I go back it will start fine in vesa, but without compiz-fusion. when do I type? sorry for being so novice in this stuff.
Scott Cool

tombh · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 422 Location: Bristol, UK

Ah, yes, it did occur to me what the problem is actually. You should choose the "Manual" option when the Compiz-Fusion Wizard starts, then choose ATI->Radeon (open source driver).

Boring technical bit --
You see the wizard automatically forces the ATI fglrx proprietary driver (which isn't very good) for cards newer than the 9000 (you have a 9200). The Radeon driver is actually the better driver but it won't work on the very newest cards (newer than X1300 or something) so I had to draw a line somewhere, but it doesn't matter now because we can use the "Manual" option to choose the driver for ourselves.