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techgnoll


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PostPosted: Sat 19 Jul 2008, 20:14    Post subject: wNOP v0.2
Subject description: Is this using a 64bit kernel?
 

I am building a new box and am looking at this option.
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tombh


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jul 2008, 04:27    Post subject:  

@T_Hobbit: Yes wNOP comes with Xorg-OpenGL-7.2 by default Smile
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T_Hobbit


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jul 2008, 18:53    Post subject:  

That's the problem: according to the russian post, the .pet doesn't work with xorg-opengl-7.2. I'll need to work on that...
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jul 2008, 04:03    Post subject:  

Well the new version of wNOP will have Xorg 7.3 which will be out in the next few weeks...
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shr1k


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jul 2008, 23:26    Post subject:  

I am having a problem getting wNop to run without compiz at 1200x800 screen size. Why would I want to not use compiz, you ask. I am trying to set up a save file that boots really fast and runs really fast from the same CD as wNop. I dont know if compiz slows down boot time but I like how instantly windows open with no effects. I would be OK with a script that runs at boot after x starts and kills compiz automatically but I cant seem to get that to work.
If I boot to xfce or kill compiz x crashes or the screen res changes. I can boot with compiz running and kill it with the task manager then the screen res will stay. I just cant find out how to do that with out a bunch of mouse clicks at boot. Does anyone have any ideas.

EDIT : I over looked a simple solution. With the compiz settings manager I can turn off the animations. I over looked this solution because in my everyday setup the settings manager is broke Sad I think it happened when I installed python 2.5 for Blender. So does anyone know how to fix that?(I want to keep the newer python)
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tombh


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2008, 05:47    Post subject:  

I suspect that you may need to install python_for_CCSM because in wNOP I don't include any python stuff, I just compiled CCSM to not be python dependant. therefore when you install a new version of Compiz-Fusion (wow's latest for example) it replaces the pythin-independant CCSM with a python-dependant one. So even though you have installed python 2.5 now, you still need the extra python modules provided by python_CCSM.

If that still doesn't work run CCSM from the command line and see what the errors are....

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shr1k


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jul 2008, 19:00    Post subject:  

I get this error with that package
Code:
There was an error expanding package python_for_CCSM.pet.tar.gz.
Either the file is corrupted, or has not expanded into its own directory with
name of python_for_CCSM.pet/ (which is how most packages expand).
You will have to go into /root/.packages/ directory and manually clean it up.

This script will now exit...

do you know how to fix this? Thanks
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jtouso

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Jul 2008, 08:15    Post subject: New Wnop  

You write: "Well the new version of wNOP will have Xorg 7.3 which will be out in the next few weeks..."

My question: How many "few weeks"? I was waiting for the new ones on your Puppu derivate to try with my Ati X2300.
I know I need to be patient but...
Waiting....
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tombh


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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jul 2008, 07:06    Post subject:  

@shr1k: I've repackaged it, try it now -- python_for_CCSM.pet

@jtouso: It's coming, don't worry! I've finally got fusion itself compiled but it needs more testing, you could help by following wow's Compiz Fusion thread.

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shr1k


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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jul 2008, 22:17    Post subject:  

Hey Thanks ( I don't think the creator of that other OS I use ever repackaged a ZIP file for me)
I was able to repackage it myself and get it to install, but I still get the same error message
Code:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 24, in <module>
  File "/root/Desktop/pyinstaller-1.3/iu.py", line 312, in importHook
  File "/root/Desktop/pyinstaller-1.3/iu.py", line 398, in doimport
  File "ccsm/buildccsm/out1.pyz/gtk", line 48, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name _gtk


I was looking around the web and I found some instructions on what lines to comment out to fix similar errors but I cant figure out where the file is to alter. Do I need to get the source for ccsm and build it myself or am I not finding some config file file someware? Can you tell me where you got the source and which version you used so I might give it a try myself.
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tombh


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Aug 2008, 14:44    Post subject:  

Have you installed a newer version of Compiz-Fusion? If you haven't then do, and that will most likely solve the problem. Visit this thread for the latest pacakages (there half down that first post).

Otherwise, um, well let's see how that goes first...

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erikkire

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Aug 2008, 15:25    Post subject:  

can't wait for the next wNOP w/ version 4 of puppy!

thanks to 'tombh' for the effort on bringing wNOP v0.2 to the public and to 'wow' for compiz-fusion on puppy!

thanks guys!
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tombh


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Aug 2008, 07:50    Post subject:  

@erikkire: Thank you kindly for your wishes, they are genuinely much appreciated Smile

@CF in Puppy 4 lovers: Full instructions for running Compiz-Fusion in Puppy 4 are here.

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meridian_blue


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Aug 2008, 18:31    Post subject:  

Could there be a future version of wNOP with Enlightenment window manager?

And if so what would be required?
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tombh


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug 2008, 05:23    Post subject:  

I'm afraid not, I have to be careful what I put my efforts into due to the amount of time involved in making Puplets, and it's best to just concentrate on one window manager.

There are however other ways of getting Enlightenment to work in your Puppy. However, I'm not sure that Compiz-Fusion will work with it, the only window managers I know of that work with Compiz-Fusion are XFCE, Gnome and KDE. Saying that I've never actually used Enlightenment (with or without CF), it would have to compositing-enabled to work with Compiz-Fusion.

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