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Trobin

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Oct 2008, 16:59    Post subject:  

Okay. Edbrowse is in as a menu option. 3.3, non-ssl, at the moment but I want to upgrade it to version 3.40.

I thought of using speech-dispatcher and espeak, as the current version can use them, but I would still like to upgrade to 4.1, if possible, and speech dispatcher won't compile in 4.x.

MOCP is still in there but not a a menu option. The menu option will run MPGFRONT, which will handle the playlists, and use mpg123 to play the mp3 files.

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Trobin

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008, 16:31    Post subject:  

Console Zoom is in.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/czoom/

It gives the user the opportunity to magniy the text on a console screen. It works, I assume, by choosing the font in which the text is displayed.
ctrl-t - zomm and center cursor
ctrl-b; ctrl-g; ctrl-n; ctrl-v moves amplified screen
ctrl-x repass to terminal at next keypress

My main complaint is that czoom comes with one font. I would like the option to choose different size fonts, but hey, what does one expect for free?

I could read the screen with out my glasses though.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008, 18:12    Post subject:  

Trobin,

Here is a font converter that will convert Adobe type 1 fonts to psf (screen fonts): http://home.comcast.net/~fbui/bdf2psf.html

On that page there are two additional fonts:
7x13
8x13

I have downloaded those fonts and attached them to this message.

I have no idea how large they are! I'll have to investigate more to be sure that I'm giving you something that you need.

Best

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Trobin

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008, 23:05    Post subject:  

Thanks. It does appear to use adobe fonts. However czoom, which apparentl;y been in alpha since 2001, looks for the font-8x8.psf file. So there may not be an easy way to chance font sizes without renaming files. Thats a possibilty, though I'd hoped there'd be a more elegant solution.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 02:24    Post subject:  

I'll leave it in because there might be a possibility that someone will find it usefuyl.

However czoom seems hardwired rto find that one particular file - font8.8.psf. I've dited czoom.cpp to try and get it to load another font file but it still looks for font-8x8.psf. I tried renaming another font filke to try and decieve czomm but that only messes up the display.

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PostPosted: Thu 18 Dec 2008, 23:50    Post subject:  

Speakpup Release Candidate 2 download site:
http://www.puppylinux.asia/members/Seeing-Eye-Puppy/speakpuprc2.iso

If there a problem with Puppylinux.asia, try the following site.
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=477675&dv=1
You will see a small "Download" button at the bottom of the page Smile It is pretty confusing - but that is confusing on purpose so you'll buy the "fast" service.

speakpuprc2.iso is still a release candidate - so feedback and bugs are requested to be posted here.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 16:31    Post subject:  Accessible Puppy!  

Hi I been away from the Puppy Linux Forum for a while and have lost touch with developments. I am very interested in the Puppy for the Blind idea (I have just released a customised version of Ubuntu for the Blind - Vinux) but I am also interested in making a console based version of puppy using YASR or something similar. It seems this is already well underway. I would be happy to help test, or contribute to the project if I am able to offer anything useful. I would particularly like to know where to get hold of accessibility apps in .pet format etc.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 16:39    Post subject:  Accessible Puppy!  

Forgot to mention, I work at the Royal National College for the Blind in the UK and have daily access to hundreds of eager guinea pigs who will be able to test and provide feedback! drbongo
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 16:55    Post subject:  

Hello Dr. Bongo, News on the Coconut Telegraph travels far and wide. it is always nice to have someone join us. I think the "Progress" train has stopped for the holidays, but who knows it may start up again. Choo! Choo! All aboard!

Flip through this thread - and you will see some great ideas, and some good links to other projects. The one that is most finished is Oralux - but that has been abandoned - but the Oralux CD works very well out of the box.

Best to you and the others lurking Smile

David
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Jan 2009, 16:55    Post subject:  

Hello Dr. Bongo, News on the Coconut Telegraph travels far and wide. it is always nice to have someone join us. I think the "Progress" train has stopped for the holidays, but who knows it may start up again. Choo! Choo! All aboard!

Flip through this thread - and you will see some great ideas, and some good links to other projects. The one that is most finished is Oralux - but that has been abandoned - but the Oralux CD works very well out of the box.

Best to you and the others lurking Smile

David
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 02:31    Post subject:  

the new knoppix 6 is blind friendly - thought you might like to check it out Smile
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blind-friendly, talking ADRIANE menu by default (use boot option "knoppix"
for directly starting into graphical desktop)


http://knopper.net/knoppix/knoppix60-en.html

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 15:22    Post subject:  

Thanks you ever ready lobster, Ed. Great info. Their prior version last year was very difficult to use. Maybe this will be progress. Best to you and all.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Jan 2009, 23:07    Post subject:  

Took a looksee, there was some progress.

It booted dirtectly to a menu without having to enter a boot option. Most of the programs remain the same, elinks, mutt, etc. They've added some graphical programs, Open Office 3, Firefox (Iceweasel) and a full x windows system. It took some time for thwem to load from the menu, but all returned to it after they were shut down.

Definitely worth a try.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Feb 2009, 14:42    Post subject:  

I have an "on mainboard" sound card and an additional (better quality) soundblaster PCI sound card.

I have to run alsaconf to get the new card.

Also I tried to change the settings to use EN instead of DE as the voice.

I got it working but with some work. I'll have to set the "onboard sound card" to OFF in my bios and see if it works out of the box.

I just updated the download links for speakpuprc2 above.

Main location for speakpup is here:
http://www.puppylinux.asia/members/Seeing-Eye-Puppy/

The exact download link (coblitz added) is here: http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://www.puppylinux.asia/members/Seeing-Eye-Puppy/speakpuprc2.iso

I notice that there is NO md5sum there. I'll see what I can do!

The Adriene Knoppix download link is:

http://coblitz.codeen.org/http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V6.0-ADRIANE_V1.1CD-2009-01-27-EN.iso

md5sum is http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V6.0-ADRIANE_V1.1CD-2009-01-27-EN.iso.md5

Best to all,

David Ring
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Mar 2009, 04:28    Post subject:  

OK, this is something that I don't know if it's been addressed.

This will be the 660th post on this thread, so it would take a bit of time to find out if somebody already mentioned it.

There's a show on the Cable telly here in the States, probably everywhere, on the Science Channel.

"Robo-chick and the Bionic Boy"

Robo-chick is a lady who is blind, but was in the midst of an experiment where she had direct implants to her optic nerve, hooked by cables to a mobile computer with a link to a mini cam mounted on an eyeglasses frame.

There's some amazing promise in the techniques and technology involved, but...

The man who developed the program died in the middle of the experiment.

Since the hardware requirements are already met, already implanted...

And there was a HUGE leap of success in the project, basically they were in the midst of training her optic receptor neurons to "see" for the first time in decades, without overloading them...

But is there anybody on the Puppy Team who would be able to nudge the project back to life, or at least look into it?

All I know is the name of the show, it might be Discovery Channel rather than Science Channel.

I don't put much of my time into watching T.V. and it was just a fluke that I saw that segment of the show.

Cybernetics is way beyond my current skill levels and I personally couldn't do much but stand round saying really helpful stuff like "tsk tsk that looks bloody awful"

I also know that this project in question goes far beyond the scope of adapting the OS to work for persons who are blind.

...but that maybe, ah, I'll leave it to yourselves to finish out the concept.

I know, too, because I read a lot of Science Fiction, that this very thing has been a huge dream of Cyber researchers since before UNIVAC even.

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