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[djringjr]

http://www.grml.org

Maybe that will work.

[Trobin]

I purchased a copy of Linux PRO Magazine as the June 2008 issue comes with Knoppix 5.3.1 on the dvd. I wanted to give adriane a tryout.

The first thing I noticed is that the world's greatest Live distro doesn't find my soundf card. Something about not having the proper kernel module or something.

The next thing I noticed is that the default for Adrianne is German. As I can't get any sound out of the thing I suppose it didn't really matter.

To get adriane working type knoppix = adriane in as a boot option.

It uses speech dispatcher and espeak. I can only hope that it sounds better than GRML.

After a while, you are presented with a menu, with the following choices.
Help
WWW......Elinks
email .......Mutt
chat..........Irssi
contacts....Addressbook
notebook...Nano terxt editor
text scanner
set up
...language
...Turn Out. Then menu choice is Gerate babel fish gave me the translation
...Screen Reader SBL
....This appeared to have more to do with BRLTTY than the screen reader. However BRYLLTY .....might have a screen reader in it.
Internet
....Set up a modem
....Lan
....Wireless
....cellphone
....DSL
....ISDN
....modem


I was kind of hoping to see how they handled such mundane things like making a back up but no such luick. There is a shell option. I suppose one did the back upo through that.

[djringjr]

It took me a long time to find out how to boot into English with Knoppix.

The = sign is a shifted zero.

So I had to put at bootup

knoppix lang=en

But without knowing the German keyboard it was difficult.

Best

David

[Trobin]

I managed to figure it out, with the help of babelfish.

I booted into adriane using knopix = adriane, then went into the set up menu, sprache, and changed every lang="de..." to lang="en" That worked, though I suppose that since I didn't save a file to my hard disk, unless knoppix did it automatically, I'll have to do it every time.

I did manage to get the sound working and it does sound better than GRML, though I can't say that it sounds better than Speak-pup, though maybe I'm biased in that regard anyway.

[mcewanw]

Hello Trobin.

Seems to me that a commandline voice over IP would be ideal for use on your Speak-pup.

So perhaps, if you have time and inclination, you'd like to try the one I describe here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=206406#206406

You'd need to compile it first, and read the manual I point to, which tells you, in some detail, how to actually operate it. It appears to be quite straightforward to basically use though.

I'm planning to incorporate it into foksy later, but I'm moving home and country just now so won't be doing any computing for a month or more.

I'm hoping (and expecting) that it can also talk to people who are using gizmo5, a GUI Voice app which is available as a smallish dotpet via here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=205724&search_id=1328871582#205724

An inbuilt voice chat facility would clearly be useful on a system for the blind user. The suggested one also seems to include IM facilities using jabber protocol I think.

[djringjr]

Command Line VOIP? Wow. That's amazing! What a great idea!

david

[Trobin]

I've down loaded the program and it is something that I want to look into. Maybe I'll try compiling it tomorrow.

I know very little about voiop though.

[Trobin]

Had no problems compiling it with Puppy 2.17.

Created a file - pjsua-i686-pc-linux-gnu, in the ~/pjproject-0.8.0/pjsip-apps/bin directory

I made a copy of the file, renamed the copy to pjsua and copied the copy to /usr/bin so I just need to open a terminal and type in pjsua to get to the menu.

[Trobin]

Had no problem getting it in Speak-Pup

So far as I can tell, without actually trying to phone someone, it is working.

My susgestion would be to stop espeak from reading out all the garbage, seemed endless when waiting for the administration menu to appear, and to put in a new menu.

[muggins]

Trobin,

I haven't worked out how to use it myself yet, but just for anyone else that might be interested, mxk seems to be able to remap your keyboard, use the keyboard for mouse functions, add macros and:

[Keef]

Just for info...

This compiles ok, (on 2.14R) but the executable needs linking to /usr/local/bin (it installs to sbin)
To get 'uinput' to work open a terminal in /dev/input/ and enter :
# mknod /dev/input/uinput c 10 223
as described in the readme. I don't know what any of this means of course, I just blindly follow readmes and guess a bit.

The braille simulator is braille.mxk in the /etc/ directory

However -
Some of the keys are incorrectly mapped:
sdf jkl should correspond to 321456 not 123456, to match a brailler.
(The author admits to never having used a brailler)
Eg pressing 'f' should produce 'a'
'f+d' should be 'b', and
'f+j' should produce 'c' etc
The 'f' and 's' keys need swapping and all will be well. I had a go at swapping the values ( 12 and 15) in:

156 press-array 0 virt12 f/press sync:
157 release-array 0 virt12 f/release sync:

with

185 press-array 0 virt15 s/press sync:
186 release-array 0 virt15 s/release sync:

But no joy. I was assuming virt15 = a, but my guesswork has its limitations.

[djringjr]

Hello everyone! I hope the summer is being enjoyed for thouse of you in the upper hemisphere, and for those in the lower hemisphere, what can I say? Winter has started!

I found this today:

ftp://mirror.services.wisc.edu/mirrors/linux/distributions/speakup/disks/slackware/zipspeak/index.html

A mini-distro of linux for blind users using Speakup. (See below for the Speakup Project address.) ZipSpeak is produced and maintained by Saqib Shaikh.

ZipSpeak can be downloaded from the FTP site at ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/slackware/zipspeak. You can either download the single file zipspeak.zip (30 MB) or the 22 files in the split directory (each 1.44 MB). You can find lots more information in the readme file, including how to install ZipSpeak.

LinuxSpeaks is still in the alpha stage.
http://www.joekamphaus.net/

Linux Laptops, Notebook, PDAs and Mobile Phones for the Blind
http://tuxmobil.org/mobile_blind.html

The Speakup Project
http://www.linux-speakup.org/
List of Speakup Projects: http://www.linux-speakup.org/projects.html

Here are some of the current projects:

(*) Speak Freely is a realtime text and audio IRC type program.
(*) TuxTalk, is a software-based synthesizer for the GNU/Linux operating system, originally based on rsynth. TuxTalk is scheduled to be the first software synth for speakup.
(*) Awesome, the professional audio editing system for text based consoles is being developed to be an accessible text-based audio editor.
(*) EBTAFS, Electronic Braille Translation and Formatting system
(*) socrates, is a text based OCR scanning and reading system.
(*) Listenup, Library of Congress (USA) DAISY format e-book reader.

Have fun!

David
=30=

[Trobin]

See if this works.

[Trobin]

Okay, it seems that you need tio type in a title to get it to work properly..?

Getting back into the project.

Edited to get rid of the title.

I was using Links, a text browser to trty and post the above. It did work but I needed to post a title to get the cursor to stop in the message area. Very possible that I did something wrong.

However Links appears to work faster than elinks - however elinks has the ability to open new tabs.

http://links.sourceforge.net/

[djringjr]

elinks2 also downloads and shows graphics in the cli mode and has a switch -g which if you run in X environment is a regular graphics browser. One of the versions of elinks does https - but this has recently been removed - seems that something is difficult about that because lynx discontinued https support.

However it would be helpful for banking.

I spoke to the people at the NYC office of Lighthouse - they're making an extention for Firehouse - and I told them that they're welcome to come see what we were doing. Perhaps they have something that we can use also.

Best

DR